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Grandmaster.flv posted:I also suspect I actually ruffled some feathers with the anime comment and for that I do apologize lol Kekekela fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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So in good news... My BJJ/MMA club has just signed the lease for its own space! We'll be moving off of the TKD/Boxercize club's couch and into our own three practice room gym with showers and poo poo. It's a bit of a risk because we're in a small market, but it's our head instructor's current lifelong dream, and we figure that we can keep the doors open with some good planning. As of Jan 1 we should be offering a pretty full and varied schedule which even includes wrestling classes! Over Christmas we're running a few work bees to get everything together. Anyone ever go through this kind of thing with a club before? Any lessons learned?
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Grandmaster.flv posted:You took your girlfriend to a gym presumably filled with athletic men that like to dominate with their hips and you are a goon that likes anime. Anyway my point is hoes are gonna ho no matter if you're a goony anime lover or athletic buff socialite. So yeah, victim blaming is still dumb.
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Dec 14, 2016 14:59
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Grandmaster.flv posted:I also suspect I actually ruffled some feathers with the anime comment and for that I do apologize lol apology accepted [sheathing katana] ... for now...
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Dec 14, 2016 15:55
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Just lol if you don't buy all your clothes at https://www.justsaiyan.co
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CommonShore posted:
How far is the move? If it affects people's travel to the gym, you're gonna lose members. The club needs to promote, promote, promote. Offer good incentives to bring people in. Have the lower level classes designed so people can be more casual and not feel guilty about missing classes.
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kimbo305 posted:How far is the move? If it affects people's travel to the gym, you're gonna lose members. The club needs to promote, promote, promote. Offer good incentives to bring people in. Have the lower level classes designed so people can be more casual and not feel guilty about missing classes. Only two and a half blocks! We have better parking available now and actually some curb appeal on a reasonably busy street, next to one of the town's nicer pubs  And I guess they're doing that kind of stuff. They're adding punch-card sales for individual bulk classes.
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Siivola posted:Just lol if you don't buy all your clothes at https://www.justsaiyan.co omg time to power up for 20 mins before a roll
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Dec 14, 2016 17:53
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CommonShore posted:So in good news... Yeah, all the clubs I've been to have gone through that. January/February there will be a lot of new people who want to change their lives but they will be gone March/April. Tell them it's a long process and start hammering that down early? Same thing happens in April/May for the second time. People freak out "gaaaahh, I should have abs for the summer" train for a while and notice it won't work out like that and quit if you don't talk to them. As for the Boxercize girls keep telling them it's what all the hot Victoria's Secret models do - because it's what they actually do, so they might continue training. (Not in actual boxing but you get what I mean.)
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Siivola posted:Just lol if you don't buy all your clothes at https://www.justsaiyan.co I can't believe it, IRL Goku pants...
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I've actually been surprised how few people we get in January. We get out largest membership bump in May when recent grads/interns start moving into town that have trained previously. We'll lose a few in August, but gain a few grad students. Our average new member who sticks with it doesn't seem to actually be fresh white belts.
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Dec 22, 2016 23:48
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I just got your user name. :noice:
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How easy is it to finish an arm bar to the point where the arm is broken? I witnessed a fight on NYE between two people who had no idea how to fight and as it went to the ground one the one on the bottom was full mounted and put him arm up dead straight and it was an absolute gift of an arm bar, and it got me thinking about how easy it is to actually snap the arm. I have tapped people with arm bars and with Kimura's and stuff I can totally feel the arm give way and be snappable, but arm bars don't seem like the arm would actually snap, just do serious damage and cause a lot of pain. Also what's the protocol for getting in a fight, would it be ok to break someone's arm, I'm not planning on but if I was the guy on top I would of seriously been tempted to do it and end the fight that way.
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willie_dee posted:Also what's the protocol for getting in a fight, would it be ok to break someone's arm, I'm not planning on but if I was the guy on top I would of seriously been tempted to do it and end the fight that way. I am not a lawyer and could be really wrong, but you have to have a controlled and proportionate response to have self defense immunity. If the person has stopped being a threat to you, you can't hide behind self defense. "not being a threat anymore" isn't clearly defined, and this is also further complicated by each state having their own set of laws. Example: Drunk dude about your size pulls a knife, you double leg him, get mount, and break his arm.[without getting stabbed weirdly enough] You are probably in the clear. Drunk dude about your size takes a wild swing at you with his fist, you double leg him, get mount, he doesn't really struggle and you decide to break his arm. You may be criminally/civilly liable. Drunk dude pulls a knife, threatens you, but is behind a window he can't reasonably get around without giving you enough time to run away and you instead pull your gun shoot him in both knee caps and break his arm. You will be liable. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jan 3, 2017 |
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Jan 3, 2017 20:27
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Anyways with the bizarre content, mad willie
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Whats your mental state been like lately willie? Like with all the steroids and general willie d baggage.
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willie_dee posted:How easy is it to finish an arm bar to the point where the arm is broken? I witnessed a fight on NYE between two people who had no idea how to fight and as it went to the ground one the one on the bottom was full mounted and put him arm up dead straight and it was an absolute gift of an arm bar, and it got me thinking about how easy it is to actually snap the arm. I have tapped people with arm bars and with Kimura's and stuff I can totally feel the arm give way and be snappable, but arm bars don't seem like the arm would actually snap, just do serious damage and cause a lot of pain. Just buy running shoes, man.
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Best advice I've ever had if you're a trained person who got into a street fight, no matter what you did: "Officer/your honour - I was afraid for my personal safety." Don't give any other answers or statements beyond that. That you felt that you were acting in self defense is more important than the specifics of who was being aggressive in what ways and what decisions you made in the moment.
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willie_dee posted:How easy is it to finish an arm bar to the point where the arm is broken? I witnessed a fight on NYE between two people who had no idea how to fight and as it went to the ground one the one on the bottom was full mounted and put him arm up dead straight and it was an absolute gift of an arm bar, and it got me thinking about how easy it is to actually snap the arm. I have tapped people with arm bars and with Kimura's and stuff I can totally feel the arm give way and be snappable, but arm bars don't seem like the arm would actually snap, just do serious damage and cause a lot of pain. Do Not Fight but arms are supremely easy to snap in twain as we humans are fragile beasts
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Novum posted:Whats your mental state been like lately willie? Like with all the steroids and general willie d baggage. I don't want to make this thread about that, I'll post up in the steroid thread about my recent adventures when related.
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Novum posted:general willie dbagg-age. Oooh, you gonna just sit there and take that, willie? Sit there and not drive your hips through that elbow?
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its very hard to break the arm if you do it wrong and pretty easy (in effort) if you do it right. But as Draculino says: "I've seen a guy fight with'a broken arm. I never see a guy fight asleep"
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Xguard86 posted:its very hard to break the arm if you do it wrong and pretty easy (in effort) if you do it right. I have never put someone properly to sleep and I'd hate to do it first time in a fight and accidentally have killed them. I know it takes a long time but if I've not practiced it I don't want to try it live, that and I'm sure in a fight my brain won't be thinking all that much and I'll be going on instinct and muscle memory alone. My question was more because when you land a Kimura once your past the point of no return it's really easy to see how you could snap it and do serious damage, whereas when I have an arm bar they sit comfortably in it until I figure out where I need to be pushing and which way the wrist should be and when it goes and you get the tap there's still resistance. Obviously in training your going soft as well so I'm sure that makes a difference.
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It takes minutes of sustained choking for long term damage to manifest iirc and after someone hasn't been struggling for even just a few moments its pretty easy to tell they're out. Furthermore I'm worried that you've been envisioning yourself in violent fantasy scenarios in a presumably non-competitive environment and I encourage you to re-evaluate why you feel the need to.
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Thirty seconds of a blood choke can cause permanent brain damage and definitely kill (plus eggshell issues abound). One of the signs of damage occurring is rigidity, which can feel like they are resisting further, their eyes don't necessarily close, and people still breathe. It can look like an opponent is still resisting the choke, even though they are completely out and experiencing brain damage. Not something for someone pumped up on adrenaline to call.
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willie_dee posted:I have never put someone properly to sleep and I'd hate to do it first time in a fight and accidentally have killed them. I know it takes a long time but if I've not practiced it I don't want to try it live, that and I'm sure in a fight my brain won't be thinking all that much and I'll be going on instinct and muscle memory alone. My question was more because when you land a Kimura once your past the point of no return it's really easy to see how you could snap it and do serious damage, whereas when I have an arm bar they sit comfortably in it until I figure out where I need to be pushing and which way the wrist should be and when it goes and you get the tap there's still resistance. Obviously in training your going soft as well so I'm sure that makes a difference. you need to train your fukken brain-jitsu my man
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Neon Belly posted:Thirty seconds of a blood choke can cause permanent brain damage and definitely kill. One of the signs of damage occurring is rigidity, which can feel like they are resisting further, their eyes don't necessarily close, and people still breathe. It can look like an opponent is still resisting the choke, even though they are completely out and experiencing brain damage. Not something for someone pumped up on adrenaline to call. Yea this is what I was under the impression it was like, didn't some kid kill his younger brother at a party messing around doing this because that's exactly what happened? Horrific. I've got a guillotine that works if I'm on the way down and they aren't across me but I'd never put it on and not take it off, just use it to roll over into mount. Novum posted:It takes minutes of sustained choking for long term damage to manifest iirc and after someone hasn't been struggling for even just a few moments its pretty easy to tell they're out. Furthermore I'm worried that you've been envisioning yourself in violent fantasy scenarios in a presumably non-competitive environment and I encourage you to re-evaluate why you feel the need to. I've seen a few fights recently and have thought about what I should do should things get out of hand, especially now I'm big enough and mostly sober at all times that if someone is getting too hurt or someone is being horrible that I'd be able to say something and not be afraid should anything escalate.
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Ok man. Just making sure you're ok.
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I hope you stop training.
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ICHIBAHN posted:I hope you stop training. be a role model
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Neon Belly posted:One of the signs of damage occurring is rigidity, which can feel like they are resisting further, their eyes don't necessarily close, and people still breathe. It can look like an opponent is still resisting the choke, even though they are completely out and experiencing brain damage. Yeah, this can be really weird. Combined with the gurgling sounds people make if they go out and are still getting choked, it can really seem like someone is still awake. quote:eggshell issues  , does that mean its more susceptible to future damage?
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Kekekela posted:
It's a legal term -- eggshell skull. If someone had a very fragile body and you hurt them doing something that wouldn't hurt a normal person, the injury is on you even if you didn't know about their condition. I dunno if the gym waiver would change things.
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kimbo305 posted:It's a legal term -- eggshell skull. If someone had a very fragile body and you hurt them doing something that wouldn't hurt a normal person, the injury is on you even if you didn't know about their condition. I dunno if the gym waiver would change things. I remember reading one news story that was literally this, a guy had an undetected generic condition so part of his skull was one third normal thickness. Someone got in a scuffle, whacked him with an umbrella, and whoops, sentenced for manslaughter. Running shoes.
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Is there a reason different grappling orgs schedule their competitions for the same day? I'm torn three ways between Good Fight in Nyack NY, Grappling Industries in Manhattan, and NAGA in Philly all on Feb 4th. Then besides one UAEJJF event later in the month I haven't heard of anything in the area for months after that.
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P-Mack posted:I remember reading one news story that was literally this, a guy had an undetected generic condition so part of his skull was one third normal thickness. Someone got in a scuffle, whacked him with an umbrella, and whoops, sentenced for manslaughter. But if eggshell skull dude comes at you, and you hit them in self defence (reasonably), is it on you that he died when you didn't mean to kill him and you didn't think your punch would, death would be an over reaction and seen as unreasonable, but punching someone would be reasonable.
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willie_dee posted:But if eggshell skull dude comes at you, and you hit them in self defence (reasonably), is it on you that he died when you didn't mean to kill him and you didn't think your punch would, death would be an over reaction and seen as unreasonable, but punching someone would be reasonable. While I did not immediately find a state case on point, the court of military appeals has, in that situation, found that self defense still works even if you kill eggshell skull dude as a result. U.S. v Jones, 3 M.J. 279 (C.M.A. 1977)
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I believe the technical definition of assault is causing someone to fear for their life. You don't even have to touch them, really. Source: close relative is a judge with a PhD. I'm just some idiot, though, but it seems reasonable that you should be able to defend yourself with deadly force if you are being assaulted, from a legal standpoint anyway. So long as you can convince the court you were legitimately/reasonably fearful for your life.
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Dammit that's not why I came here. Ok so what are the striking pads called that you wrap around a support beam or pillar? I thought 'pole bag' was it but apparently that's just a really tall heavy bag? It's a tricky thing to google, or no such thing exists and you just have to improvise your own.
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Omglosser posted:I believe the technical definition of assault is causing someone to fear for their life. Not normally, no. Ignoring the difference between criminal and civil assault, and focusing here only on criminal assault in Louisiana just to give one example (other states are very similar on this point): quote:§36. Assault defined So either attempted battery or intentionally putting someone in reasonable fear of a battery. What's a battery? quote:§33. Battery defined Note "force or violence", not "death or grievous bodily injury." That part covers even pushing someone with a single finger. So you can be assaulted without any reasonable fear for your life, or even anything having happened but someone reaching out to push you and missing.
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Omglosser posted:Dammit that'she not why I came here. Ok so what are the striking pads called that you wrap around a support beam or pillar? I thought 'pole bag' was it but apparently that's just a really tall heavy bag? It's a tricky thing to google, or no such thing exists and you just have to improvise your own. I dunno but I think this is what you're talking about : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKcsbi1_iHQ
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