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atomicthumbs posted:yeah let me just drop into a shell here *presses ctrl alt f1* gross dumb vtys on x86 are a heritage of sco unix thanks, sco, i guess
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FreeBSD and Linux on the Desktop, when the Gnomes fell.
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fritz posted:next year, on the desktop
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Hi guys i upgraded my fedora to 25 and now i cant use the fedora handbrake nvidia drivers i get a blackscreen, i can use the regular nvidia drivers but i went all the way to remove them to use the automatic install ones that now i cant be bothered soz
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2017 year of still using the proprietary graphics drivers this is why we can't ever fully switch to wayland
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el dorito posted:2017 year of still using the proprietary graphics drivers gnome has an eglstreams<->gbm shim now that was too late for fedora 25 but will probably be in 26 so wayland will work with nvidia drivers
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The_Franz posted:gnome has an eglstreams<->gbm shim now that was too late for fedora 25 but will probably be in 26 so wayland will work with nvidia drivers X is dead, long live X!
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:my joke survived a title update. this is my proudest moment ur av didnt tho
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el dorito posted:2017 year of still using the proprietary graphics drivers nothing wrong with a proprietary driver just use an operating system written by people who understand the concept of binary compatibility
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eschaton posted:nothing wrong with a proprietary driver booooo
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Tankakern posted:booooo
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i switched to fedora 25, and while it is not entirely without bumps i do think that crappy old x11 is finally going to get demoted to a compatibility module. this thing actually works. you haven't and you probably won't
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The_Franz posted:gnome has an eglstreams<->gbm shim now that was too late for fedora 25 but will probably be in 26 so wayland will work with nvidia drivers cool i can have reduced performance in an unsupported configuration and in exchange I get awesome wayland features like nothing, nothing, and fuckall.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:cool i can have reduced performance in an unsupported configuration and in exchange I get awesome wayland features like nothing, nothing, and fuckall. I thought waylaid was going to provide all sorts of immensely valuable capabilities, such as the ability to transition from the boot screen to the desktop without flickering for a millisecond
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:cool i can have reduced performance in an unsupported configuration and in exchange I get awesome wayland features like nothing, nothing, and fuckall. since this is an nbsd post i will just assume that wayland is actually good
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wayland is of course named after a mythological smith who once made some nice rings and was promptly hamstrung to prevent him being useful to anyone else, which seems an appropriate metaphor for linux on the desktop he is also famous for being a rapist, so i guess it joins gimp on the list of open source projects that really really ought to have thought a little harder about their names
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:cool i can have reduced performance in an unsupported configuration and in exchange I get awesome wayland features like nothing, nothing, and fuckall. im looking forward to mixed hidpi settings across monitors -- atm ive got some randr hack to make the scaling work properly across monitors and it makes things look grainy Soricidus posted:wayland is of course named after a mythological smith who once made some nice rings and was promptly hamstrung to prevent him being useful to anyone else, which seems an appropriate metaphor for linux on the desktop no its named after a town in massachusetts you weirdo
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Captain Foo posted:since this is an nbsd post i will just assume that wayland is actually good just remember to add in the implied "for my specific use case" to the end of each of his posts
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Progressive JPEG posted:im looking forward to mixed hidpi settings across monitors -- atm ive got some randr hack to make the scaling work properly across monitors and it makes things look grainy ok that is actually rad as hell and gives me a reason to care about wayland
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Progressive JPEG posted:no its named after a town in massachusetts you weirdo yeah and gimp is just a harmless acronym for gnu image manipulation package, nothing to do with disabled people or kinky stuff at all even if you're right that doesn't alter the fact that wayland the smith has been a part of our germanic cultural heritage for thousands of years and is the most natural interpretation of the name, not some tiny town nobody has ever heard of
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Soricidus posted:yeah and gimp is just a harmless acronym for gnu image manipulation package, nothing to do with disabled people or kinky stuff at all i always assumed it was  but with copyright dodging
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lmao look at these people voluntarily wasting perfectly good screen real estate. my 2017 lotd rant: i hope fedora 26 makes a way for me to actually set a keyboard model in all the apps. in gnome I couln't even find if it can be set, and the setting in kde control panel or systemd/gdm conf doesn't apply to everything correctly either right now, my laptop keyboard works incorrectly to various degrees in everything not a terminal. luckily i spend 99% of my time on the laptop in some sort of terminal and qt creator fakevim, which also surprisingly works correctly (while no other qt app does, including qt creator without fakevim enabled) still, it's annoying i get no home/end key functionality in almost any gui app, including both browsers, unless i plug in a usb keyboard it's an even bigger clusterfuck on other distros, so it's not something wayland did
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Soricidus posted:yeah and gimp is just a harmless acronym for gnu image manipulation package, nothing to do with disabled people or kinky stuff at all i have no idea who wayland the smith is and every idea of what wayland the town is
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so moving a uefi ubuntu installed hard drive from one computer to another doesn't allow it to boot. grub doesn't even show up. 2017 is definitely shaping up!!
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b0red posted:so moving a uefi ubuntu installed hard drive from one computer to another doesn't allow it to boot. grub doesn't even show up. 2017 is definitely shaping up!! part of uefi os configuration actually lives in the bios if you are lucky then your bios has a mechanism to configure it to load your bootloader
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The_Franz posted:uefi has a fallback to look for a boot loader in EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi (which is where everyone else puts it) if there is no entry or a bad entry in nvram, but for some reason ubuntu installs it in a different path so the fallback behavior won't work. yeah ubuntu doesn't make that. figured that out like an hour ago. cheers tho. wish i had checked this thread earlier
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Silver Alicorn posted:ubuntu sounds like a big leaky sack of fail it's loving awful but i've finally got our product on centos and a few of our customers on it. things are looking up although i'll still have to manage a few ubuntu customers for awhile.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i switched to fedora 25, and while it is not entirely without bumps i do think that crappy old x11 is finally going to get demoted to a compatibility module. this thing actually works. wait whats x11s replacement? or am i reading this wrong
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