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Cleretic posted:The only part of Skyward Swords' shield duration mechanics I remember was how crazy-broken the indestructible Hylian Shield is, because the rest of the game's built around the notion that blocking is something you can only do sparingly. I wonder if BOTW will follow the recent trend of the Hylian Shield being the best shield. I kinda hope not because the mirror shield is rad and I want it back.
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Like everyone else, I'm trying to get some Zelda played before Breath of the Wild, so I've got ALttP going right now. Oh my god gently caress this game. This game is like getting your hand slammed in a car door over and over. It's so hard. Everything is aimed at you, everything slices off a whole heart, and nothing drops any hearts at all ever for any reason. Naturally the game doesn't give you back full hearts when you continue either. Just JFC, why do you have to be so stingy with health? Make every tenth enemy drop a heart or something, drat. I'm at the thief dungeon, whatever it's called, and it's gonna take a miracle from the Lord Jesus Christ Himself for me to get to that lady and get her outside. I played this game as a kid too, so whatever argument about me not being an old isn't gonna hold water. I'm loving ancient and also this game sucks. I beat OG NES Zelda but no, this game is what fucks me off.
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Bean posted:I'm bad at Zelda 3 Bug Net + Bottles + Fairies Also get good etc etc etc
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Gorgolflox posted:Bug Net + Bottles + Fairies This, except replace bug net + fairies with red potion (or blue potion) Speaking of which, since you're at the Thieves' Hideout, you should be able to get the Warp Duck. He can drop you off in front of the potion witch's house, I think, and once you get her the toadstool, you can always talk to her assistant (outside?) for a "free sample" of the potion, which is a great way to refill at the beginning of a session.
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Bean posted:Like everyone else, I'm trying to get some Zelda played before Breath of the Wild, so I've got ALttP going right now. I beat that game when I was 11, sorry you suck at it.
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Haha, actual rage over Link to the Past? The beginning is slightly more difficult than the rest of the game, but you can run from most things you don't understand how to fight.
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Bean posted:Like everyone else, I'm trying to get some Zelda played before Breath of the Wild, so I've got ALttP going right now. Link to the Past is a genuinely super-easy game that gives you tons upon tons of easy-win options, at minimum carrying faeries around who regenerate tons of HP when you die. You are perhaps the only person in the world to go all "it's the HARDEST GAME EVER" for it.
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Bean posted:Like everyone else, I'm trying to get some Zelda played before Breath of the Wild, so I've got ALttP going right now. I'm sorry that you're having trouble with a game that I beat when I was four.
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Bean posted:I'm at the thief dungeon, whatever it's called, and it's gonna take a miracle from the Lord Jesus Christ Himself for me to get to that lady and get her outside. Don't worry, I definitely believe that you will be able to accomplish this.
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ALttP is the Dark Souls of Zelda games.
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Eopia posted:I'm sorry that you're having trouble with a game that I beat when I was four. I beat that game as an infant you loving scrub, and I was born blind and deaf and have no thumbs! (I played that game in High School and it was drat good)
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Bean posted:Like everyone else, I'm trying to get some Zelda played before Breath of the Wild, so I've got ALttP going right now. You need to be packing fairies, bro. Also my memory is hazy but I think there are numerous fairy springs scattered throughout the overworld that are a free health refill. There might even be one near at least one of the respawn points? But yeah, fairies are your friend.
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Phimosissy posted:I beat that game as an infant you loving scrub, and I was born blind and deaf and have no thumbs! So you were a blind baby in high school?
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Bean posted:Like everyone else, I'm trying to get some Zelda played before Breath of the Wild, so I've got ALttP going right now. This is shameful.
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After you finish ALttP play Zelda II: The Adventure of Link to really get your poo poo pushed in.
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To be fair, I kind of had a lot of trouble when I replayed ALttP last year too and I had just come off a Zelda 1 and 2 replay. Though I didn't die at all, more that I kept falling down pits for whatever dumb reason. Didn't have this problem with Link's Awakening when I played that immediately afterwards either so I dunno, maybe I was having an "off" period of days then. Zelda 1 and 2 were still far harder but ALttP does do stuff that sets you back for loving up, like having to retraverse a few rooms.
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ALttP is a good game that did not age well at all.
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Cicadas! posted:ALttP is a good game that did not age well at all. What the Some genuinely insane posting going on itt
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codenameFANGIO posted:This is shameful. It truly is. Cicadas! posted:ALttP is a good game that did not age well at all. This is exactly right. A the time, it was great. In comparison to all the other handhelds, other than the two really bad ones, it is bad. And yes, it was a console game, but it is effectively a handheld game now as all console games followed it's design while the next console game was OoT. Mr. Fortitude posted:To be fair, I kind of had a lot of trouble when I replayed ALttP last year too and I had just come off a Zelda 1 and 2 replay. Though I didn't die at all, more that I kept falling down pits for whatever dumb reason. Didn't have this problem with Link's Awakening when I played that immediately afterwards either so I dunno, maybe I was having an "off" period of days then. Zelda 1 and 2 were still far harder but ALttP does do stuff that sets you back for loving up, like having to retraverse a few rooms. Yes. It's a not a good game now.
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Cicadas! posted:ALttP is a good game that did not age well at all. I tried to go back right after albw and it was pretty rough. I bet I could jump in now a year or so removed from the much smoother better upgraded game.
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wow is there a game from 1991/92 that has aged better than AlttP? Jesus Christ
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This must be the final form of the Zelda cycle. It has become too powerful and will consume us all
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Zas posted:wow is there a game from 1991/92 that has aged better than AlttP? Jesus Christ Super mario world.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Super mario world. that was 90/91 tho 
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Zas posted:wow is there a game from 1991/92 that has aged better than AlttP? Jesus Christ Final Fantasy V, AKA the best Final Fantasy.
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Zas posted:wow is there a game from 1991/92 that has aged better than AlttP? Jesus Christ Older, but Zelda 2 has aged better.
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Waltzing Along posted:Older, but Zelda 2 has aged better. Technically, I guess bad games can't get any worse.
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I mean i've already ranted about it enough, but alttp is really hard to play after albw. The combat is clunkier and unfun, the puzzles are more basic and boring, etc. It's not a bad game but it isn't universally beloved, especially if you didn't beat it when you were ten.
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youcallthatatwist posted:I mean i've already ranted about it enough, but alttp is really hard to play after albw. The combat is clunkier and unfun, the puzzles are more basic and boring, etc. It's not a bad game but it isn't universally beloved, especially if you didn't beat it when you were ten. In what world do you live in where ALTTP isn't universally beloved? Like what do you consider universally beloved if ALTTP isn't one?
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Is this the phase of the zelda cycle where we just randomly poo poo on an older game with unwarranted whinings?
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Andrast posted:In what world do you live in where ALTTP isn't universally beloved? Uh, this world? Like I can factually state alttp is not universally beloved, because I don't love it, and neither do several other people in this thread. I don't think any zelda games are universally loved, since they all have detractors. Jesus, why are people so touchy about this game? I promise I'm not here to take away your childhoods or anything.
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youcallthatatwist posted:Uh, this universe? Like I can factually state alttp is not universally beloved, because I don't love it, and neither do several other people in this thread. I don't think any zelda games are universally loved, since they all have detractors. I guess no game ever is universally beloved then. With your criteria there is literally nothing that is universally beloved.
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I think that they could make a game like ALBW and have it be awesome like 20 years after ALTTP came out is proof that ALTTP has aged very well. Like, I don't think people understand the concept of aging well
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youcallthatatwist posted:I mean i've already ranted about it enough, but alttp is really hard to play after albw. The combat is clunkier and unfun, the puzzles are more basic and boring, etc. It's not a bad game but it isn't universally beloved, especially if you didn't beat it when you were ten. I'm glad I hunkered down and beat LttP before I played LBW. I never played it when I was a wee one, but I enjoyed seeing what all the fuss was about. I would have loved the poo poo out of it if I'd played it when I was 10. As it stood, I liked it, but not as much as LBW. By the way, you're all crazy. It's aged just fine.
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my thoughts are you have to take old games on their own terms, so like, you wouldn't say LoZ sucks cause it doesn't have 8 way run- cause the game is very well balanced around the 4 way system. if that makes sense. thats a separate issue from the aging thing, but yeah.
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youcallthatatwist posted:Like I can factually state alttp is not universally beloved, because I don't love it, and neither do several other people in this thread. Opinions don't necessarily count if they are dumb and/or bad
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