Mafiart

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Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Infinitum posted:

How would you know this?

Reading plus logic.

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

The aspiring Mafiartists gathered around Asiina, believing that she was going to try and ruin their grand design. With the tip of a cup, she got washed away, never to darken their masterpiece.

You are the black palette. You want to make the picture dark, gloomy, and depressing. Maybe it would be better just to paint the whole thing black. Once per game, at night, you can choose to ##mix with another player. If they are a palette, this will permanently turn them black. It won't change their perspective on the game, but it's definitely not going to help them out in any way. If they're anything other than a palette, this will have no effect. You also share a factional night kill. You are scum aligned and win when all threats to scum are eliminated.

# ? Jan 9, 2017 22:29

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# ? Apr 18, 2024 06:06

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

For a guy who bases his game on logic, that's a pretty big assumption you're making there Lumpen.

How would you know that being turned Brown is a scum ability?

Almost like you have INSIDER INFORMATION

##vote Lumpen

# ? Jan 9, 2017 22:34

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Infinitum posted:

For a guy who bases his game on logic, that's a pretty big assumption you're making there Lumpen.

How would you know that being turned Brown is a scum ability?

Almost like you have INSIDER INFORMATION

##vote Lumpen

If it were not N1 then becoming Brown could happen by mixing Green/Purple/Orange, but if you READ YOUR (claimed) PM you will see that even that would not be possible on N2+ either.

If you have some other theory after reading the flips and your PM (if you indeed got a Town Yellow Pallette PM), do tell. This is really not very complicated with the flips being the entire text of the PMs and the claims that have been posted so far.

# ? Jan 9, 2017 22:38

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

What does my PM have to do with anything, other than you skirting the issue.

You just lumped Brown and Black as scum abilities/colours, when at the moment we can only assume that Brown is a bad colour.

# ? Jan 9, 2017 22:41

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Infinitum posted:

What does my PM have to do with anything, other than you skirting the issue.

You just lumped Brown and Black as scum abilities/colours, when at the moment we can only assume that Brown is a bad colour.

I can tell you are really struggling. It is ok though, you can re-read all this if you end up in LYLO or something and it'll make sense then I hope.

# ? Jan 9, 2017 22:46

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

It's ok if you're scum Lumpen.

You'll just die

# ? Jan 9, 2017 22:48

got some chores tonight: Feb 18, 2012; honk honk whats for lunch...

i think we can win by massclaiming now that we've found the 13th character

the setup is probably brush x3, palette x6, scum x3, sk x1

using ppl's mixing actions from n1 is probably enough to figure out who lied and whatnot

# ? Jan 9, 2017 22:54

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

got some chores tonight posted:

i think we can win by massclaiming now that we've found the 13th character

the setup is probably brush x3, palette x6, scum x3, sk x1

using ppl's mixing actions from n1 is probably enough to figure out who lied and whatnot

I agree.

# ? Jan 9, 2017 22:55

got some chores tonight: Feb 18, 2012; honk honk whats for lunch...

i mean if its not palette x6 and just palette x3 (maybe with spare brush, another role, yet another role) then it doesnt work but either way we should lynch bird who is 100% completely busted scum

# ? Jan 9, 2017 22:56

got some chores tonight: Feb 18, 2012; honk honk whats for lunch...

i mean rly even if we dont wanna fullclaim some1 just fakeclaim blue palette so we can eat this guys lunch

# ? Jan 9, 2017 23:00

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Infinitum posted:

For a guy who bases his game on logic, that's a pretty big assumption you're making there Lumpen.

How would you know that being turned Brown is a scum ability?

Almost like you have INSIDER INFORMATION

##vote Lumpen

No that's dumb

# ? Jan 9, 2017 23:38

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

# ? Jan 9, 2017 23:39

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Because he's making a perfectly logical assumption

# ? Jan 10, 2017 00:15

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

But his gimmick is logic

So making assumptions is counter-intuitive to that end

Ergo scum found

You're welcome

# ? Jan 10, 2017 00:18

peramene: Oct 13, 2015; by Fluffdaddy

For what it is worth, I was red, and attempted to mix with SSV to share in the joys of purple, believing we would both become purple.

I wrote the above and then realized I probably had a PM explaining the colorchange, and sure enough -

As anticipated, I am now a purple palette. Sorry, SSV. I thought we'd both get to be purple. I didn't wanna claim and gently caress town over but here we are.

# ? Jan 10, 2017 00:26

sentimental snail: Nov 22, 2007; DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

got some chores tonight posted:

i mean if its not palette x6 and just palette x3 (maybe with spare brush, another role, yet another role) then it doesnt work but either way we should lynch bird who is 100% completely busted scum

well I'm gonna nip this in the bud before we start assuming the wrong things since that's where we're headed anyway: the latter should be correct, I'm a sponge :yeah:

basically like a JOAT based on the colors in play, I guess? I get a (random?) color each night based on a mix of all current colors of palettes and dab players for effect.
I thought we would all be things until people started claiming colors. my pm says combinations are a thing but not how they happen or anything like that.

dunno if brushes get the same things, but I can confirm that different colors give different powers and mixed colors are more powerful (than red, at least).
I started as orange, which is cop, and checked chores last night. he is town. unclear what color I'll be tonight, I assume tobbs will send this to me when the day ends

# ? Jan 10, 2017 01:42

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Ok well, now's probably a good time to make some claims so the PRs can plan ahead. I'm a yellow palette.

# ? Jan 10, 2017 01:43

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

Retro Futurist posted:

Ok well, now's probably a good time to make some claims so the PRs can plan ahead. I'm a yellow palette.

Odd reasoning...

# ? Jan 10, 2017 01:44

got some chores tonight: Feb 18, 2012; honk honk whats for lunch...

this is a stickup posted:

well I'm gonna nip this in the bud before we start assuming the wrong things since that's where we're headed anyway: the latter should be correct, I'm a sponge

basically like a JOAT based on the colors in play, I guess? I get a (random?) color each night based on a mix of all current colors of palettes and dab players for effect.
I thought we would all be things until people started claiming colors. my pm says combinations are a thing but not how they happen or anything like that.

dunno if brushes get the same things, but I can confirm that different colors give different powers and mixed colors are more powerful (than red, at least).
I started as orange, which is cop, and checked chores last night. he is town. unclear what color I'll be tonight, I assume tobbs will send this to me when the day ends

hmmmm

# ? Jan 10, 2017 01:54

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Infinitum posted:

Odd reasoning...

Nuh-uh

# ? Jan 10, 2017 01:56

peramene: Oct 13, 2015; by Fluffdaddy

Kashunooooooooo where the picture at

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:01

Juchero: Feb 15, 2008; Wedge Regret

so, i'm a paintbrush, i was blue yesterday which was watcher color

i watched infinitum, who was visited by me, bird, byers, and moat

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:03

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Palettes
Reds: Lumpen, peramene
Blues: SSV (confirmed by peramene), bird
Yellows: Infinitum, Retro Futurist

Black (Scum): Asiina
Brown? (Scum?): Moatillata?

Implements
Red Brush: byers
Yellow Brush: chores
Blue? Brush: Absurd Revolver
Sponge: stickup
Razor(SK): Gulag

Color powers
Red: SK Cop
Yellow: ?
Blue: ?
Orange: Cop
Purple: ?
Green: ?

Quote to correct or add, sorry it is not a pretty chart like I would normally produce.

Lynch Moat, betcha he flips Brown Scum.

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:07

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Stickup's claim is a bit dubious.

Absurd Revolver is probably telling the truth, which I believe completely busts Moat as Mr. Brown.

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:09

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

Absurd Revolver posted:

i watched infinitum, who was visited by me, bird, byers, and moat

Awww I'm popular

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:10

i am the bird: Mar 2, 2005; I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

Absurd Revolver posted:

i watched infinitum, who was visited by me, bird, byers, and moat

Lumpen posted:

Lynch Moat, betcha he flips Brown Scum.

Agree with this reasoning in combo with Moat's complete avoidance of commenting on any type of claims yesterday. Call it tunneling all you want but Moat is scummy and I don't think there's any clear reason to disbelieve AR's claim.

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:19

got some chores tonight: Feb 18, 2012; honk honk whats for lunch...

bird is definitely scum

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:22

i am the bird: Mar 2, 2005; I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

got some chores tonight posted:

bird is definitely scum

fyi you're very bad at this

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:24

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Yeah I'm good with moat, their behaviour yesterday was straight weird and they were my second choice behind chores

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:25

i am the bird: Mar 2, 2005; I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

Gonna go ahead and ##vote Moat, who was sus before the claims and looks straight guilty with all these cards on the table

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:28

sentimental snail: Nov 22, 2007; DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

Lumpen posted:

Stickup's claim is a bit dubious.

Absurd Revolver is probably telling the truth, which I believe completely busts Moat as Mr. Brown.

agreed ##vote moat

but I mean, I dunno what to tell you other than that's the role I've got

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:32

Moatillata: Dec 13, 2006; Maintain.

gently caress you all I used to be yellow now I am lovely brown

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:34

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

##vote Moat

If he flips town, I would look at Byers next

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:35

Moatillata: Dec 13, 2006; Maintain.

Infinitum posted:

##vote Moat

If he flips town, I would look at Byers next

What the gently caress? BYERS DIED, MAN

drat bugs got em

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:35

sentimental snail: Nov 22, 2007; DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

Infinitum posted:

##vote Moat

If he flips town, I would look at Byers next

actually you're next :allears:

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:36

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

this is a stickup posted:

well I'm gonna nip this in the bud before we start assuming the wrong things since that's where we're headed anyway: the latter should be correct, I'm a sponge

basically like a JOAT based on the colors in play, I guess? I get a (random?) color each night based on a mix of all current colors of palettes and dab players for effect.
I thought we would all be things until people started claiming colors. my pm says combinations are a thing but not how they happen or anything like that.

dunno if brushes get the same things, but I can confirm that different colors give different powers and mixed colors are more powerful (than red, at least).
I started as orange, which is cop, and checked chores last night. he is town. unclear what color I'll be tonight, I assume tobbs will send this to me when the day ends

Sorry stickup, I think you are Scum and telling lies.

You say you had Orange Cop power and investigated chores. That would not be a sensible play for Town at all after Asiina flipped. Chores was the first vote on Asiina, and she flipped Scum. I believe you targeted Chores, and I believe he is Town, but I do not believe you did a Cop investigation on him.

Also I think it sucks for you if you are Scum and this setup was so easily broken by a D2 massclaim. And getting stuck with Asiina for a scuumbuddy.

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:36

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

Moatillata posted:

gently caress you all I used to be yellow now I am lovely brown

A 3rd yellow? Makes you think

Oh by the by, if you visit a player of the same colour your action failed, you don't mix, and you lose the ability to mix again.

So you claiming yellow + my yellow means your action would have failed

LYNCH ALL LIARS

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:38

Moatillata: Dec 13, 2006; Maintain.

Infinitum posted:

A 3rd yellow? Makes you think

Oh by the by, if you visit a player of the same colour your action failed, you don't mix, and you lose the ability to mix again.

So you claiming yellow + my yellow means your action would have failed

LYNCH ALL LIARS

Yeah it's p obvious here inf

I was using it like a cop on your yellow claim

Hmmm

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:39

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

Moatillata posted:

What the gently caress? BYERS DIED, MAN

drat bugs got em

Well it doesn't matter ( :v:

I'm sleepy leave me alone) because you just got caught lying and are def 178% scum

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:40

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# ? Apr 18, 2024 06:06

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Moatillata posted:

Yeah it's p obvious here inf

I was using it like a cop on your yellow claim

Hmmm

You were willing to make both you and Inf useless just to test his flavour?

# ? Jan 10, 2017 02:45

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