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who gives a poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urtoqW_jewo
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Tonight we got a dusting of snow and ice, no big deal. I was going along at a nice easy 30mph on what looked like a worn-clear section of the four-lane road, and a traffic light waaaay up ahead turned red. So I gently put on the brake, nice and easy. And the ABS came on, kicking back against my foot. And it stayed on. Even with the constant computer-controlled brake-pumping, I was barely decelerating at all. It took everything I had to keep my foot down and trust that ABS computer as I came sailing up to the brake lights of the car stopped ahead of me at the stoplight. A detached part of my brain counted my mouth saying "gently caress" seven times. The ABS stopped me with about four feet to spare. (Deep breath.) gently caress. (Eight.) When the light changed and I (very carefully) pulled through the intersection, I saw on the cross street a police cruiser parked near several other cars. I couldn't see if any of them had damage to their front or rear bumpers, but I could guess why they were all there.
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Jan 10, 2017 06:38
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Yo engine brake.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:59
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PenisMonkey posted:Yo engine brake. Engine brake isn’t magic that allows you to conjure traction from the æther.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:10
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Better than applying the brakes at 30mph on ice.
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Jan 10, 2017 09:32
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PenisMonkey posted:Yo engine brake. The thought of downshifting did occur to me (it's a stickshift, after all), but I doubted I could do any better with that than the brakes could do, so I just kind of hung on and trusted the computer. And hey, it worked out fine.
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Jan 10, 2017 10:16
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Powered Descent posted:Tonight we got a dusting of snow and ice, no big deal. Winter tyres?
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Jan 10, 2017 13:02
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Powered Descent posted:The thought of downshifting did occur to me (it's a stickshift, after all), but I doubted I could do any better with that than the brakes could do, so I just kind of hung on and trusted the computer. And hey, it worked out fine. Do both next time. I've saved my rear end by downshifting more times than I can count. I'm not saying you did anything wrong here or that you're a bad driver. It was obviously a pretty rough situation and you started braking plenty early enough to stop, but at least in my experience, adding downshifting to a low-friction panic stop seems to help. Maybe find an icy parking lot or something somewhere and practice it and test it out.
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Jan 10, 2017 15:01
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A downshift can initiate a skid if you don't rev match perfectly and are on ice.
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Jan 10, 2017 15:41
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I'm yet to have that happen but I guess I'm also used to rev matching on downshifting. I still think it's worthwhile to practice it somewhere safe so that you have it available when you might need it.
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Jan 10, 2017 17:39
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You should be trying to revmatch on downshifts anyway, unless you hate your synchros.
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Jan 10, 2017 17:42
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Rev matching is more of a clutch saving technique than a synchro saving technique. Your synchros are still working to match the intermediate shaft speed when you move the stick unless you're also double clutch shifting. Simply rev matching doesn't lighten the use of your synchros.
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Jan 10, 2017 17:44
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The Ferret King posted:Rev matching is more of a clutch saving technique than a synchro saving technique. That's what I meant. I forget that there are people lazy enough to not double clutch. I drove a Jeep with ragged out synchros for a few years, double clutching is something I do without thinking about now.
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Jan 10, 2017 17:48
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I started practicing it a while back because I wanted to know how to do it, and now it's muscle memory so it feels weird to shift any other way. However, synchros are there for a reason, they ought to stand up to some use for folks that don't want to complicate shifting more than it already is.
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Jan 10, 2017 17:50
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A short time after I got my license as a dumb young kid, it was deep into winter and I was doing what kids do in the snow.. drive like it's a rally. Well one time I was doing that around a blind corner and suddenly got a face full of headlights, had a bit of an oh poo poo moment. Jammed on the brakes, managed to slide to a stop a couple feet from dude's door, and wiped my brow. What was interesting though was when I collected myself to get moving again, I noticed the shifter was in reverse. Probably wouldn't have done diddly if I had actually released the clutch but I guess I get points for trying?
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Jan 10, 2017 17:50
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EightBit posted:You should be trying to revmatch on downshifts anyway, unless you hate your synchros. Yes (well, to save your clutch), but if you're on such ice that you have essentially no braking ability, it only takes a small mismatch in revs or letting the clutch out a bit too fast to cause a loss of traction.
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Jan 10, 2017 17:50
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PT6A posted:letting the clutch out a bit too fast to cause a loss of traction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjCE7wKlGMU&t=70s sorry for the terrible video.
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Jan 10, 2017 18:27
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If you have that little grip trying to engine brake is probably not a good thing to do. You have much finer control with the brakes. I can think of two really good ways to shorten stopping distances: Drive slower Get better tires
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Jan 10, 2017 18:41
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Yep... I've bitched previously about my ABS freaking out and being better off engine braking in first gear on snow, but that's with the special case of an extra-stupid ABS system and good snow tires with studs, they need to slide a bit and dig in to get traction just like you do with MTs offroad in loose gravel or mud. In most cases, doing that will probably make things worse.
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Jan 10, 2017 18:45
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jamal posted:If you have that little grip trying to engine brake is probably not a good thing to do. You have much finer control with the brakes. Retrorockets. Mostly because rockets on cars is awesome.
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Jan 10, 2017 18:48
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Parachutes are also acceptable as they do not rely on road conditions. Only that you be on Earth
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Jan 10, 2017 19:39
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Parachutes are less effective as you slow down though. Rockets do not have that weakness.  (the exploding part is fine by me)
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Jan 10, 2017 20:06
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If KSP taught me anything, it's that lithobraking is the most effective way to slow down.
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Jan 10, 2017 20:14
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I want Bean Bandit's extending wheel spikes.
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Jan 10, 2017 20:21
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um excuse me posted:Parachutes are also acceptable as they do not rely on road conditions. Only that you be on Earth
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Jan 10, 2017 20:33
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um excuse me posted:Speaking of mandated winter driving courses this happened on my way to work. Is this by the Buckland Hills Mall in Manchester?
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Jan 10, 2017 21:55
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xzzy posted:Retrorockets. They have brakes on the light rail trains in Denver that dump sand on the rails to help traction; I wonder what that would look like with cars? Just imagine skidding across ice when suddenly, your car starts making GBS threads sand everywhere.
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Jan 10, 2017 22:31
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Automatic chains are also a thing for trucks and busses. I am not sure they would work so well on the front but a little sand sprayer thing in front of the wheels might actually be useful.
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Jan 10, 2017 22:52
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Protocol7 posted:They have brakes on the light rail trains in Denver that dump sand on the rails to help traction; I wonder what that would look like with cars? This seems like an idea for Colin Furze. I really wonder if it would work.
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Jan 10, 2017 22:54
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It would work, but it's hard to keep sand dry and willing to be sprayed. I would imagine the most effective method would be an air compressor and a couple gravity feed sandblasting guns with big nozzles spraying towards the ground in front of the car.
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Jan 10, 2017 22:57
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This sounds like a top gear (or grand tour if you prefer) sketch in the making.
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Jan 10, 2017 23:02
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Gay Weed Dad posted:Is this by the Buckland Hills Mall in Manchester? Holy poo poo it is, that's Manchester Honda for sure
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Jan 10, 2017 23:35
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Gay Weed Dad posted:Is this by the Buckland Hills Mall in Manchester? Your're darn tootin'. I live in the area.
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Jan 10, 2017 23:37
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is that really a toll road??
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Jan 11, 2017 00:00
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what in the loving poo poo? http://www.wbbjtv.com/2016/03/26/car-tangled-in-power-lines-driver-trapped/
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kastein posted:what in the loving poo poo? http://www.wbbjtv.com/2016/03/26/car-tangled-in-power-lines-driver-trapped/ Huh, I knew Saturns had plastic panels but I didn't know you could just bolt on a whole quarter like that.
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Jan 11, 2017 01:14
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That's your takeaway? Not the fact that someone managed to climb a telephone pole via the guide wires and suspend themselves 8 feet off the ground, but instead the options for replacing body panels?
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xzzy posted:That's your takeaway? Not the fact that someone managed to climb a telephone pole via the guide wires and suspend themselves 8 feet off the ground, but instead the options for replacing body panels? Hi, I don't think we've met.
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Jan 11, 2017 01:16
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Any guesses as to what's laying on the right side of the pole?
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Catching up on thread, this is going back a bit. Powershift posted:It's "4 season approved" My General Grabber AT2s have it too, and they have a pretty similar tread pattern. ko2:  grabber at2:  Obvious differences are the AT2s are studdable and have more siping, but they're very similar tires. I have no complaints so far this winter. Definitely a huge, noticeable improvement from the 8/32" remaining tread M+S Michelin Defenders I had before. My boss who lives in the mountains recently put KO2s on his 4x4 59 F100 plow truck. He hasnt had to use chains yet this season. I don't think they bribed anyone to get the label.
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