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yeah I eat rear end posted:My main problem with pro wrestling is the terminology and the made up words like kayfabe. You can't call the good/bad guy "the good/bad guy", no it has to be a "face" or a "heel", etc. It's like you're intentionally trying to make people sound like idiots when discussing it. I mean those terms are old carnival terms. They were never actually meant for every day people to use. They were only ever meant for the workers because they were trying to put one over on the marks. It's just as time went on fans learned the terms and the line between kayfabe and reality blurred so they just kind of became words every one said.
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steinrokkan posted:Pro-wrestling is an inherently immoral, barbaric form of entertainment that represents the decadence and downfall of American culture, and its toxic influence on the world. I don't actually believe you hold this (rather popular) opinion. oldpainless posted:If I don't post.....ILL DIE [In Patrick Zimmerman voice] Post... DIE!!!
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Mu Zeta posted:It's pretty weird how pretty much every wrestler from the last 20 years is either dead from suicide or in jail. Except for The Rock. actually all the wrestlers from the last 20 years are still the main eventers lol 
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I didn't really visit the site often when Metal Gear Scanlon was going on, was Drew just not drawn into the MGS games?
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KrayG posted:I didn't really visit the site often when Metal Gear Scanlon was going on, was Drew just not drawn into the MGS games? I don't really know what relevance this has to the thread, but I've just gotten into that video series. It appears he's played through 1-5 and is currently playing through Revengeance, so...?
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It just weirds me out how popular wrestling is with nerds. That isn't the way things are supposed to work.
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Big muscle men in tights with lovely plot-lines. Who'd have thought nerds be into that.
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AKA Pseudonym posted:It just weirds me out how popular wrestling is with nerds. That isn't the way things are supposed to work. What are nerds supposed to be into exactly? Video games where big muscle guys beat guys up? Fantasy novels where big muscle guys beat guys up? Comic books where big muscle guys beat guys up?
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AKA Pseudonym posted:It just weirds me out how popular wrestling is with nerds. That isn't the way things are supposed to work. I stand by my years-old assertion that the wrestling and anime subforums are begging to be combined.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I also never really understood the "it's like a soap opera" defense. You're in your mid 30s, liking soap operas isn't really something most people would brag about. people aren't bragging, you fall into a soap opera spiral when you begrudgingly watch a few episodes for whatever reason but then continue watching because you're invested in seeing the resolution/outcome of a feud, with like 30 going on at once there's an okay chance one may capture your attention especially since most 'actors' ham it up for effect and the storylines aren't subtle i'm not really a wrestling nerd but in the late 90s - early 00 the company had a substantial amount of talent and a kind of weird charisma that made you want to follow the going ons of, say, a giant beefy goth in either his title aspirations or in his formation of a weird doomsday cult, those factors helped make it the most mainstream it's ever been nowadays from what i can gather fans are more interested in following careers like the rise and fall of Bryan Daniels (??), an extremely normal looking person who came from the minors and went all the way to riling up whole stadiums as champion despite never being the kind of athlete the company traditionally backs (then retiring from injury) or more current threads like seeing if Nakamura, a very talent man from japan, will do well in a market that has never responded well to imported talent - there's also a developmental division now to cater to this kind of interest
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I watch wrestling for the social commentary.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I watched the press conference one and it was just the same tired pee jokes we've been hearing the past several days+ straight Baldwins impression of trump is funny because it really pisses trump off. It's not a perfect impression but it antagonizes all of his insecurities. It's not about him being a rich rear end in a top hat, but a petty, childish idiot. Which is wonderful.
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Watching Trump himself speak is often funnier than what Baldwin does.
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hard counter posted:people aren't bragging, you fall into a soap opera spiral when you begrudgingly watch a few episodes for whatever reason but then continue watching because you're invested in seeing the resolution/outcome of a feud, with like 30 going on at once there's an okay chance one may capture your attention especially since most 'actors' ham it up for effect and the storylines aren't subtle That's actually basically what happened People used to be invested in the characters and the storyline outcome. But now there's an entire industry dedicated to the backstage drama and so the characters and the actual performers are intertwined, and people want to see the people succeed cause they know they're worthy of it. Daniel Bryan is obviously the main case of this, an extremely talented wrestler who's like 5'8 and the wwe kept trying to bury but the fans refused and basically rebelled until they were forced to let him be the top guy. Wrestling is so weird and nuanced now that it's almost impossible to understand how it works without having invested years in it already. It's the weirdest business that exists
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While I doubt I will ever watch wrestling, I must admit they produced something pretty entertaining in the form of The Iron Sheik's twitter.
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NCIS' goofy forensic poo poo is half the fun and getting angry over its inaccuracies is missing the point. Gibbs. 
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yeah I eat rear end posted:While I doubt I will ever watch wrestling, I must admit they produced something pretty entertaining in the form of The Iron Sheik's twitter. Let me ruin that for you his weird nephews write it to make money off selling merch and he has little if anything to actually do with it. They do it for a few other older wrestlers too
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My reason for liking fight scenes in movies and not wrestling is because films forcefully control the scope, speed and angles to make a fight scene look cool. Wrestling doesn't have the cinematography of a well-filmed fight scene. Likewise, poorly-filmed fight scenes are a goddamn slog. I have a real hard time enjoying TV or movies I hate the look of, which is a surprisingly unpopular opinion.
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Aesop Poprock posted:People used to be invested in the characters and the storyline outcome. It's also why I can't get too mad at Landis' liberal interpretation of HHH's career in his short film because at the heart of it he does convey why fans stick around. His use of models to depict wrestlers may have come off as douchey, he sorta is too tbh, but he is a professional film-maker and in his AMA he mentions that he knew he was going to stretch the facts and using women to represent men (his terms: contrasting iconography) was a deliberate choice to divorce his film from reality iirc.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Let me ruin that for you All I wanted was to be made humble...is nothing in this wrestling world real..
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hard counter posted:It's also why I can't get too mad at Landis' liberal interpretation of HHH's career in his short film because at the heart of it he does convey why fans stick around. His use of models to depict wrestlers may have come off as douchey, he sorta is too tbh, but he is a professional film-maker and in his AMA he mentions that he knew he was going to stretch the facts and using women to represent men (his terms: contrasting iconography) was a deliberate choice to divorce his film from reality iirc. I thought the use of skinny models to play the roles of gargantuan wrastlers was funny and good.
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I remember John Cena was on an episode of Psych as a good guy, but it turned out he was a bad guy. But it's okay, because he became a good guy at the end again. But he still went to prison... or so they thought. DUN DUN DUUUUN. Welp! That's my wrestling story! Thanks for reading! *does a Triple H crotch chop*
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Aesop Poprock posted:Let me ruin that for you Are they the guys who get Virgil to appear everywhere to sell overpriced autographs?
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bradzilla posted:actually all the wrestlers from the last 20 years are still the main eventers lol Aesop Poprock posted:Let me ruin that for you
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Tiggum posted:I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but the Undertaker needs to retire immediately, if not sooner. It's just sad seeing him stagger out to the ring and pretend like he can still wrestle when it's pretty obvious he can barely walk. Putting him in the Royal Rumble is just the worst idea. If his condition is as bad as you say, putting him in the royal rumble is better than a regular match as there are lots of people to keep your attention so you don't have to see Undertaker turn to dust and blow away before your eyes.
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Das Boo posted:My reason for liking fight scenes in movies and not wrestling is because films forcefully control the scope, speed and angles to make a fight scene look cool. Wrestling doesn't have the cinematography of a well-filmed fight scene. Likewise, poorly-filmed fight scenes are a goddamn slog. I have trouble enjoying fight scenes in films or TV ever since I started watching MMA, since they usually look nothing like a real fight. Superhero stuff is actually better with this since there is an excuse for it to look fantastical. Wrestling combines the worst of both and just looks silly and boring.
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MMA looks silly and boring man, it's just a different kind.
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And let's not even get started about football.
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doverhog posted:And let's not even get started about football. I used to love Football, yes the type that lasts 90 minutes and involves pies and bovril when I was younger but the older I've got the less I can be bothered watching matches even for my local team. American Football is the best yank sport because you can watch a whole game in like 30 minutes.
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most sports are best if you just watch the highlights
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doverhog posted:And let's not even get started about football. Here we go again, thanks a lot... No matter what your opinion on sports is (and please, we don't need a roll call of who thinks football/soccer/baseball/hockey is Literally the Worst Sport), I hope at least someone agrees with my unpopular opinion that you should shut up about your fantasy team, at least to people who aren't involved in your league. Especially the weekly gambling version - everyone wants to tell you about how they just won 800 dollars with their lineup, of course neglecting to mention they are down like 2 grand overall.
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I think the thing with sports for me personally is ill watch anything if its highlights, Cricket, Darts, motor racing, whatever as long as there is a competitive element and people doing something that looks skillful I'm in. I find that almost every sport is moments of excellence staggered by large parts of mundane banality.
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People who take their guitar everywhere and play them with barely any prompting at any gathering. Also people who use way too many pedals.
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bean_shadow posted:People who take their guitar everywhere and play them with barely any prompting at any gathering. Also people who use way too many pedals. I see you drive an automatic
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KrayG posted:American Football is the best yank sport because you can watch a whole game in like 30 minutes. Are you watching condensed games or something? An American football game is usually around 3 and a half hours long. The only team sport in the world I can think of that's that short is Rugby Sevens.
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Yeah sorry maybe the context of my post wasnt clear but i was specifically talking about highlights for sports and how you can show the whole action from a NFL game in 30 minutes or so.
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KrayG posted:Yeah sorry maybe the context of my post wasnt clear but i was specifically talking about highlights for sports and how you can show the whole action from a NFL game in 30 minutes or so. If you want sports where the action worth watching can be condensed into a short time, soccer wins hands down (because there usually isn't any).
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Don't talk to me about sports.
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sassassin posted:Don't talk to me about sports. do you like curling?
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Henchman of Santa posted:Are you watching condensed games or something? An American football game is usually around 3 and a half hours long. The only team sport in the world I can think of that's that short is Rugby Sevens. 
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