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They're probably going to rain armor down on you, especially since with the more open world gear system they can't count on you getting armor upgrades at set points, so they need to throw a ton out in the world to find. They're not going to suddenly make the series super hard.
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s.i.r.e. posted:The only one I can think of is Ganon in LTTP, touching him would do 8 hearts of damage but I can't think of anything else unless it was Hero mode. Were Iron Knuckles in OoT/MM 4 hearts? A bunch of poo poo in ALBW when you first hit Lorule does this.
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Jan 16, 2017 18:48
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MokBa posted:Second quest should let you play as Zelda. I'm just getting way too teased by her outfit that is nearly identical to Link's. It would be a sweet secret if you booted it up and it gave you a dishonored 2 choice of who to play.
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Jan 16, 2017 19:07
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Yorkshire Tea posted:A bunch of poo poo in ALBW when you first hit Lorule does this. I don't recall taking 4 hearts unless I was playing on Hero Mode though.
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Jan 16, 2017 19:17
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s.i.r.e. posted:I don't recall taking 4 hearts unless I was playing on Hero Mode though. There are definitely enemies that will do that much damage to green tunic Link. On hero mode, those hits would deal 16 hearts unmitigated. And iirc the final boss has an attack that does 6-8 hearts base damage, translating into a straight one shot on hero mode (again, before Armor is taken to account.)
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Jan 16, 2017 19:21
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ALBW can be hard, depending on when you get the blue tunic. I got it dead last and the game was way easier afterwards. I actually missed the red tunic, too. Great game, hope it's not the last top-down Zelda.
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Jan 16, 2017 19:23
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Augus posted:There are definitely enemies that will do that much damage to green tunic Link. On hero mode, those hits would deal 16 hearts unmitigated. And iirc the final boss has an attack that does 6-8 hearts base damage, translating into a straight one shot on hero mode (again, before Armor is taken to account.) I guess I completely forgot about the normal game damage values after my Hero Mode run (which was brutal), after being oneshotted several times in that run I went for the Blue Tunic straight away.
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Jan 16, 2017 19:24
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MokBa posted:Second quest should let you play as Zelda. I'm just getting way too teased by her outfit that is nearly identical to Link's. But you already do?
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Jan 16, 2017 19:27
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I want to play both Zeldas
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Bombadilillo posted:It would be a sweet secret if you booted it up and it gave you a dishonored 2 choice of who to play. It's just a matter of time until they do this. It's not like there's voice acting to redo or anything. Fans love Zelda, crossdressing Link etc.
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in an effort to please all the players, nintendo has made Dragon Ball Z canon to the zelda universe by having link and zelda fuse via the potara earrings. Their name is Linda.
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It would be pretty cool if there was a part of the story where you played as Zelda because Link is indisposed or something for some reason, the trailer does show Zelda having to protect Link from a big guardian.spit on my clit posted:in an effort to please all the players, nintendo has made Dragon Ball Z canon to the zelda universe by having link and zelda fuse via the potara earrings. Their name is Linda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZsA2tF8noM Augus fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Jan 16, 2017 |
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I mean i doubt botw is suddenly going to become super difficult. Bokoblins only do a quarter heart of damage to you and all of the enemies have suuuuuuper slow reaction times. Some of them basically just stand there while you hit them.
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Jan 16, 2017 20:27
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You can already play as Zelda. In Hyrule Warriors.
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youcallthatatwist posted:I mean i doubt botw is suddenly going to become super difficult. Bokoblins only do a quarter heart of damage to you and all of the enemies have suuuuuuper slow reaction times. Some of them basically just stand there while you hit them. It's actually variable depending on what gear they have. I've seen a player run into a beast mode Bokoblin who did like two hearts damage and was really quick on one of the mointaibs during the E3 stream.
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youcallthatatwist posted:I mean i doubt botw is suddenly going to become super difficult. Bokoblins only do a quarter heart of damage to you and all of the enemies have suuuuuuper slow reaction times. Some of them basically just stand there while you hit them. They're sure as hell more aggressive than in other games at least
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Re: Difficulty With the game being so open, my guess is that enemy strength will be the primary limiting factor in how fast you can progress through the game. That is to say, early on, a lone Guardian will be enough to make taking "that" path or going to "this" shrine difficult enough that most players won't have the skill/patience to defeat them and thus, move on to lower hanging fruit. Basically, it's a soft gear-check: you better be really good or have good enough gear to take on tougher enemies. It's like in the treehouse presentation: even Link on a horse with some (likely lower-level) gear was no match for a single mobile Guardian. Better players might be able to kill Guardians early but most won't. The oft-quoted "you can go take on Calamity Ganon from the start" is technically true but practically impossible for 99% of players because the margin for error will be so slim. If Ganon can't one-shot you from the beginning of the game, what kind of end boss would he be? Also, I think it would be both cool and good if Calamity Ganon was a false final boss. Something more akin to Magus in Chrono Trigger: the big bad for most of the game but once you defeat him you realize he's not the true threat and that the real end game begins.
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I like the idea of finishing the game, then immediately restarting it and making a beeline to Ganon. Not having a gate is a bold move for Zelda, I hope it works well. Part of me imagines that the actual area Ganon is in will be the check - a harsh environment would dissuade less-equipped players but just be seen as a challenge for the more experienced.
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Looking forward to the 20 minute speed run where someone runs directly to ganon with 3 hearts and only the starter gear.
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Cojawfee posted:Looking forward to the 20 minute speed run where someone runs directly to ganon with 3 hearts and only the starter gear. not even the starter gear you can run out in nothing but your shorts
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Rexroom posted:You can already play as Zelda. Never noticed, too busy being Tingle.
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TFRazorsaw posted:not even the starter gear Dark Souls Naked Run, here I come
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What's to stop Link from binge-eating his hearts up in the pause menu every time he takes damage?
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He has a pretty limited inventory.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What's to stop Link from binge-eating his hearts up in the pause menu every time he takes damage? heart disease
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OK Zelda freaks, I'm selling my New Nintendo 3DS XL Hyrule Edition + LBW + NSMB2 + Majora's Mask (download, no NNID) + Link's Awakening (download, no NNID). It's on SA Mart: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3805851
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What's to stop Link from binge-eating his hearts up in the pause menu every time he takes damage? Probably inventory capacity limits, and I'd guess it'll be tough to find healing items while you're in a dungeon so using them all up would be bad. But also I don't expect the game to be super hard so maybe they're not treating it as that big of a deal.
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well why not posted:Not having a gate is a bold move for Zelda, I hope it works well. When did they say there's no gates and you can tackle Ganon straight away? I'm pretty sure there's going to be restrictions in place that don't allow you to go straight to him, though I'm sure people will find glitches to get around that. Also, Ganon better just be a massive pig with a trident. Because I want a figma of him.
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Pretty sure I seen a massive purple swirl shield go up around the castle like multiple previous games.
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s.i.r.e. posted:When did they say there's no gates and you can tackle Ganon straight away? I'm pretty sure there's going to be restrictions in place that don't allow you to go straight to him, though I'm sure people will find glitches to get around that. http://www.polygon.com/e3/2016/6/15/11942652/legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-ending quote:"Users may not actually get the full story depending on how they play this game and how they strategize and solve puzzles," producer Eiji Aonuma told Polygon. "Users are able to go to the very end goal without revealing why Link woke up the way he did and where he did. Whether you want to reveal the storyline and find out why Link woke up, or you want to just go straight to the goal, that's an option totally up to the user."
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That's some fuckin' balls, wow. Yeah, I can't wait for Dark Souls naked runs of this game.
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I wonder if that just means that you can blitz the critical path and miss a lot of important stuff that's found in side quests and side dungeons, not just that you can waltz right in to fight Ganon from the word go.
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Harrow posted:I wonder if that just means that you can blitz the critical path and miss a lot of important stuff that's found in side quests and side dungeons, not just that you can waltz right in to fight Ganon from the word go. The quote literally says you can go straight to the final boss.
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TFRazorsaw posted:http://www.polygon.com/e3/2016/6/15/11942652/legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-ending Naked runs confirmed for Zelda
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Actually going to make for boring speed runs. Once the most effective method of beating the boss is found its done. No fun sequence breaks. Just run there and kill him.
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Boring any% runs, anyway. I'd imagine "all shrines" runs would be a pretty interesting category.
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Thoom posted:Boring any% runs, anyway. Yeah gonna have to get creative real fast. But it sounds like you can do any amount of story. So gonna be interesting.
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Cojawfee posted:The quote literally says you can go straight to the final boss. It says "straight to the goal" which could just mean "stick to only doing the things that get you to the final boss," with the stuff you'd miss being the side quests and dungeons that reveal the rest of the story. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that there are multiple ways to read that, specifically because I don't want people to be disappointed and feel lied to if it does turn out you can't waltz right into the final dungeon immediately.
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Bombadilillo posted:Actually going to make for boring speed runs. Once the most effective method of beating the boss is found its done. No fun sequence breaks. Just run there and kill him. Speed runs are for chumps, gotta go for style. I hope the final battle has lots of movable debris that i can use to beat Ganon senseless with 
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Literally Kermit posted:Speed runs are for chumps, gotta go for style. True. Dark souls speed runs are dumb. Punching nameless king to death....got drat.
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