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TVIV operates on LOST/Leftovers style magic; only the good posters can see the good threads.
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I just found out there's a 108 page thread in this forum about Power Rangers. Am I in the bad place?
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Jan 17, 2017 13:12
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I'm 2 episodes into Series of Unfortunate Events and I'm not quite sure what I think of it. I find the style a bit jaunty and the episodes feel long in a bad way, which may come down to all the dense dialogue. I haven't felt the need to watch two episodes in a row yet, but I'm not feeling the need to stop watching either. The second episode roped me in a bit more since it seemed to go a little lighter on the Snicket/Warburton "turn away, this is terrible" stuff and give Olaf/NPH more to work with. It just seems like its going to take awhile for me to get through it instead of a 2-3 day binge. Which I suppose matches with some reading where I'll read for an hour or 2-3 and then just need to put it down and pick it up again tomorrow.
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Jan 17, 2017 13:19
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Mu Zeta posted:Am I in the bad place? 
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Jan 17, 2017 13:19
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STAC Goat posted:I'm 2 episodes into Series of Unfortunate Events and I'm not quite sure what I think of it. I find the style a bit jaunty and the episodes feel long in a bad way, which may come down to all the dense dialogue. I haven't felt the need to watch two episodes in a row yet, but I'm not feeling the need to stop watching either. The second episode roped me in a bit more since it seemed to go a little lighter on the Snicket/Warburton "turn away, this is terrible" stuff and give Olaf/NPH more to work with. It just seems like its going to take awhile for me to get through it instead of a 2-3 day binge. Which I suppose matches with some reading where I'll read for an hour or 2-3 and then just need to put it down and pick it up again tomorrow. It seems like everyone, myself included, agrees that the first 2 episodes are the weakest, especially when it comes to NPH. Keep watching (don't keep watching, I beg you).
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Jan 17, 2017 13:29
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Yeah, I'm not bailing on it. There's enough there and people seem to like it enough that I'm willing to stick with it. I think my biggest hurdle is that the style of dialogue, especially from the kids, just feels kind of grating over the course of 8 hours instead of 2 like in a Wes Anderson movie. Which I think is part of the reason I'm feeling the need to pace out the episodes instead of binging. Like, I'm already kind of sick of the "in this case ______ means _______" thing that seems to have been used roughly 100 times in the first 2 episodes.
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Jan 17, 2017 13:33
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Having never read the books, the thing that's keeping me up at night is the whole "this story doesn't have a happy ending" caveat. 
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Jan 17, 2017 13:43
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When I first started it and they kept hammering the "this is a terrible story, nothing good happens, there is no happy ending, turn back now" thing I actually momentarily paused and considered turning it off. But they were hitting it so hard that I decided not to take it too seriously. Plus it all seems to come from the Lemony Snickett character and he seems to be walking this line between narrator and actual character as he is mid investigation of the story so it seems like it leaves open the possibility that he just doesn't know how the story ends. He comes off to me as an unreliable narrator. At least that's how I'm justifying ignoring the opening theme every time I turn on an episode. And yeah, I didn't even know that random weird Jim Carrey movie was based on books. So I have no idea what to expect. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Jan 17, 2017 |
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Jan 17, 2017 13:52
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Coming from nowhere, here's the new Elizabeth Moss show on Hulu: The Handmaid's Tale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dre0wQmLGe8
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Jan 17, 2017 14:08
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The set design for Lemony Snicket was done by the guy who did the set design on Edward Scissorhands, and it really shows in places like episodes 3+4. Also, episodes 3+4 introduce one of the best characters played by a really funny actor.
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Jan 17, 2017 14:22
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Can't wait for that (Handmaid's Tale). Looks like it's gonna be somethin special. Moss has the best taste in roles I swear
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Jan 17, 2017 14:22
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Escobarbarian posted:Can't wait for that (Handmaid's Tale). Looks like it's gonna be somethin special. Moss has the best taste in roles I swear She's also coming back for another season of Top of the Lake this year.
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Jan 17, 2017 14:46
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STAC Goat posted:I think my biggest hurdle is that the style of dialogue, especially from the kids, just feels kind of grating over the course of 8 hours instead of 2 like in a Wes Anderson movie. I almost made the same comparison. I loving hate Wes Anderson movies and I think that might be part of why the show doesn't work for me.
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Jan 17, 2017 15:39
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Digital Jedi posted:Oh man it was terrible. I love anything Holmes but this was just bad. lol, why is the pirate game the thing that looks the worst.
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Jan 17, 2017 16:20
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Shageletic posted:lol, why is the pirate game the thing that looks the worst. When they were kids Sherlock and his best friend would dress up as pirates and play pretend. I forget what Sherlock went by but his friend was Redbeard when they played. Eurus killed him. In the flashbacks she is watching them play but not playing along. Which of course is a justified reason to murder another child. They were like 10 at the time and apparently no one gave a poo poo that a kid died. Mind you the whole episode they said Redbeard was a dog. Such a great twist at the end "Oh yea wasn't a dog. Was your childhood best friend I killed".
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Jan 17, 2017 16:36
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Digital Jedi posted:I forget what Sherlock went by Yellowbeard. Note one of the writers.
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Jan 17, 2017 16:47
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Regy Rusty posted:I think it translates really well. I despised the movie too and the show nails the feel of the books perfectly. Aside from one person in the show's thread, everyone who's coming at the show from the background of the books seem to like it. It looks to me like people bouncing off the first episode tend to not like the style that the show and books are going for. Uh I'm the one guy that actually really liked the movie, but is kinda wary of committing to something that seems to spin its wheel as a thematic point, 1) why did you not like the movie, and 2) what does the show do better than it? Thx. Party Plane Jones posted:Coming from nowhere, here's the new Elizabeth Moss show on Hulu: The Handmaid's Tale: Posted it a few pages ago. Excited/dreading it, it's a real, real heavy book. EDIT: Open Source Idiom posted:She's also coming back for another season of Top of the Lake this year. Really, really, really did not like it ended. I mean serious, how much sexual abuse can happen in one peaceful hamlet. Yes, entire communities can be riven by it, but at the end it felt exploitative. Shageletic fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jan 17, 2017 |
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Jan 17, 2017 17:00
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Shageletic posted:Uh I'm the one guy that actually really liked the movie, but is kinda wary of committing to something that seems to spin its wheel as a thematic point, 1) why did you not like the movie, and 2) what does the show do better than it? Thx. I couldn't stand Jim Carrey's version of Count Olaf. Cramming the plot of 3 books into one movie meant that not enough time was spent on any of them and the characters and plot had no room to breathe or develop. Plus they also did some really weird nonsensical things with the plot, chopping out the finale of the first book and apending it on to the end of the movie despite it making no logical sense there. The show addresses each of these complaints. I at least greatly prefer NPH's Count Olaf. With two episodes per book the story isn't rushed. And by adapting four books for the first season it feels like it reaches a meaningful end point rather than an arbitrary one. I also greatly prefer the show's version of Lemony Snicket. In the movie his role was very minimal and he was detached and not very funny, dramatically different from the narration of the books. In the show they chose instead to have him appear throughout talking directly to the audience and keeping a lot of the humor and charm that made me fall in love with the books in the first place. Side note I'm not sure what you mean by "spin its wheel" because that's not how I'd describe what happens. There's definitely a forward moving plot. Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jan 17, 2017 |
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Jan 17, 2017 17:11
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If anything the speed at which the plot moves in Lemony Snicket (the Netflix show) is breathtaking. I'm on episode 4 now and I did not expect this much world-building and mystery and stuff.
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Jan 17, 2017 17:26
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There are a couple of reveals in the last two eps that hosed me UP.
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Jan 17, 2017 17:30
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Regy Rusty posted:
The adults getting killed by an increasingly obvious Olaf, and no one listening to the kids entirely reasonable accusations regarding it. Just found it vexing. I mean, there's motive AND means goddamn it, Law and Order would be all over this poo poo.
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Jan 17, 2017 17:36
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Shageletic posted:The adults getting killed by an increasingly obvious Olaf, and no one listening to the kids entirely reasonable accusations regarding it. The story takes that to a bit of an extreme, but it's not as though adults not believing kids when they tell them about horrible things other adults have done isn't a thing that happens all the time in real life.
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Jan 17, 2017 17:40
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Shageletic posted:The adults getting killed by an increasingly obvious Olaf, and no one listening to the kids entirely reasonable accusations regarding it. If you've only seen the movie then yeah that element is taken to the extreme. It's mainly the first 3 books that follow that formula with no deviation which was all the movie covered. Already by the last two episodes of the TV show covering the fourth book things have started moving in a different direction. Not to say you won't find it frustrating. A big theme of the books is about being trapped in an uncaring and ignorant world and how they learn to survive and protect themselves in spite of it.
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Jan 17, 2017 17:48
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Anyone who gets annoyed by that stuff has clearly never been a child
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Jan 17, 2017 18:27
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Escobarbarian posted:Anyone who gets annoyed by that stuff has clearly never been a child It certainly connected with me when I first read the books as a kid.
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Jan 17, 2017 18:33
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Sure, it's a very Roald Dahl thing, straight out of Matilda.
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Jan 17, 2017 18:46
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I'm just assuming it takes place in the same universe as The Addams Family
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Jan 17, 2017 19:34
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Shageletic posted:
did someone miss the last couple of decades of Catholic Church news?
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Jan 17, 2017 21:13
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Netflix released the trailer for their new series, The Santa Clarita Diet today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjRnbOgoAUQ I'll give it a shot, I guess?
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Jan 17, 2017 22:46
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Looks good to me.
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Jan 17, 2017 22:51
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Escobarbarian posted:It's so so so satisfying when someone makes a lovely smug pretentious post like this and you know they're totally wrong and just making themselves look like an idiot 
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Jan 17, 2017 23:36
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So it turns out I binged Lemony Snickett after all and just finished. So final thoughts. I enjoyed it well enough but I feel like I should have taken the advice of the show itself every time it told me there was no happy ending and it would ruin my night. The mother and father double fakeout was especially bummeriffic. I feel like I need to dig up something uplifting before I go to bed because this really did ruin my evening. But then again, it promised exactly that repeatedly so...
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Jan 17, 2017 23:57
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DrBouvenstein posted:Netflix released the trailer for their new series, The Santa Clarita Diet today: It's from the guy behind Better Off Ted so I'm probably gonna watch the entire season off of that pedigree alone.
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Jan 18, 2017 00:48
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Vanderdeath posted:It's from the guy behind Better Off Ted so I'm probably gonna watch the entire season off of that pedigree alone. I'm glad you mentioned that because now I will as well.
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Jan 18, 2017 02:03
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I know you guys are really into Travellers so I was all baked one night and told myself "I'm going to check out that Timeless show those guys wont shut up about!" So now I'm into Timeless. I eventually realised my mistake and watched Travellers as well, but Timeless hasn't finished airing yet so I'm week-to-week now. It's pretty fun, the good guys basically chase the bad guy through time as he prevents disasters from happening like the Hindenberg, except sometimes he does poo poo like personally shoot Abe Lincoln. I really like the bad guy, and the actor is doing a great job so I'm sort of watching just to see if he can pull off what he's trying to do. Black Scientist is one of the leads, for your Better Off Ted connection.
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Jan 18, 2017 03:51
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bring back old gbs posted:So now I'm into Timeless. This week's Timeless was peak Timeless, and I mean that in a good way--sometimes its eps are way too bland time period of the week stuff, but eps like this where they team up with Harry Houdini to save Thomas Edison and also stop famed serial killer HH Holmes are nearly everything I want from the show. The only real disappointment for me is that the first episode established that they'd be loving up the timeline in a big way, but while they definitely do that, there don't seem to be any actual effects on present day other than, say, the sudden existence of a new James Bond movie. If you're looking for more time travel, I've mentioned this before but my favorite time travel show this season is Frequency; it's a more grounded time travel story than the others, if that makes sense.
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Jan 18, 2017 04:04
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Timeless has a bunch of Bill & Ted references in the pilot so I keep meaning to get back to it to see if they keep doing that.
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Jan 18, 2017 04:55
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The Mick is really edging close to It's Always Sunny territory, in a good way. "Cat morphine! You know, morphine but for cats!" It's remarkable how much they're getting away with- I know this is Fox and all, but there was some dark as hell poo poo in here. It's a good show is what I'm saying.
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Jan 18, 2017 05:26
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DrBouvenstein posted:Netflix released the trailer for their new series, The Santa Clarita Diet today: Just heard about this today from io9. Got to the sentence "Santa Clarita Diet was created by Victor Fresco, who did Better Off Ted and Andy Richter Controls the Universe". Sold!
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Jan 18, 2017 05:36
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Gorilla Salad posted:Just heard about this today from io9. Got to the sentence "Santa Clarita Diet was created by Victor Fresco, who did Better Off Ted and Andy Richter Controls the Universe". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7of0_IGq9T0 All the best to them.
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Jan 18, 2017 06:03
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