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I'm going to pretend it was not understanding the mechanics to cover up my pure avarice.
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Yeah, it was one of the big selling points of the event. We got a little unlucky. I was about to suggest we take the Ambush for cash, but the anti-DR side of the event was worth negating.
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Turn 27.2 DR take event Echeverria. 1 guerrilla each placed in Havana and Camaguey province. Havana to Neutral, DR remain eligible. In an assault that takes everyone by surprise, Directorio guerrillas team up with the Resistencia Civica movement in an attempt to assassinate Batista at a public rally in Havana. As rioters engulf the capital, the dictator narrowly manages to flee a revolutionary gunman thanks to the actions of one of his bodyguard, who dies in Batista's place. In the meantime, the DR leader Echeverria manages to commandeer a major radio station for 3 minutes, giving a speech that inspires rioters throughout the capital and undecideds throughout the nation.  Current Card  José Antonio Echeverría was the inspirational leader of the Federation of University Students and founding member of the Revolutionary Directorate. He died on March 13, 1957 during the failed attempt to assassinate Batista, topple the Government, and seize power. Without Echeverría, the Directorio lacked direction and the inspirational leadership that Fidel Castro brought to the 26 July movement. Next Card  24 cards remain in the deck. Propaganda in the next 11 cards in the deck.  Government to act! Choose one of the following:- Operations & Special Activity - Pass You have 8 resources. Deadline for action will be 20:41 GMT / 15:41 EST on Wednesday 18th January.
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Jan 17, 2017 21:44
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All in for Las Villas? That would look like - Withdraw 2 troops from Havana, 1 troops from Santiago de Cuba - Train in Las Villas for 3 troops & 1 police - Civic Action (x1) in Las Villas - Transport 3 troops from Camaguey city to Las Villas This stacks 10 troops and 4 cops in LV. Our lack of resources sucks, but 10 troops would be enough to get rid of the rebels there with a couple assaults, or maybe we'll get lucky with a momentum event. Do you think this is a better option than sweeping Havana? Or assaulting?
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Jan 17, 2017 23:37
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Havana just got set to neutral, the Syndicate and Directorio are 2 and 3 VPs from victory, and you want to blow your resources on the Las Villas quagmire? Might as well just concede the game.
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Jan 18, 2017 00:48
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Why did we do this if we weren't going full quagmire? #inittowinitTekopo posted:We should sweep in Santiago as well. The problem with leaving LV is that:
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Jan 18, 2017 00:53
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CaptainRightful posted:the Syndicate and Directorio are 2 and 3 VPs from victory
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Jan 18, 2017 00:57
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You could try to advance your own victory condition by loving with Havana. Or close a casino. Or negate DR control, which is super tenuous. Or go after M26, the only non threat on the board. Whatever, toss the game.
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Jan 18, 2017 01:02
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I'm not married to that plan but how do we secure Havana right now? Train there and hope the DR doesn't feel like doing terror?
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Jan 18, 2017 01:36
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The DR doesn't really care about terrorizing unless either Gov or M26 is about to win. They're more concerned with actually hitting their win condition, which at the moment is a single base away.
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Jan 18, 2017 01:46
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Lord Frisk posted:The DR doesn't really care about terrorizing unless either Gov or M26 is about to win. They're more concerned with actually hitting their win condition, which at the moment is a single base away. 3, actually.
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Jan 18, 2017 02:14
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Crazycryodude posted:3, actually. correct. I was looking at resources.
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Jan 18, 2017 02:20
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[raises hand] asking for...uh, a friend. How will Mafia assassinations work, mechanically? What action will they have to take (if any) to have it available as a special action?
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Jan 18, 2017 02:31
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Terror, like any other insurgent faction.
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Jan 18, 2017 02:33
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...what incentive does Syndicate ever have to do Terror? Unless government is about to win I guess...
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Jan 18, 2017 02:37
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As a means to assassinate. (Or gently caress with M26)
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Terror pushes support/opposition towards Neutral no matter who does it. The Syndicate could use it to stymie M27.
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Jan 18, 2017 02:39
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Lord Frisk posted:As a means to assassinate. (Or gently caress with M26) ah right, M26 wins off of opposition. got it.
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Jan 18, 2017 02:40
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IMJack posted:Terror pushes support/opposition towards Neutral no matter who does it. The Syndicate could use it to stymie M27. M26 pushes it to active opposition.
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Jan 18, 2017 02:53
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Doing something in Havana makes more sense, but I am now awfully tempted to go with the Las Villas plan.
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Lord Frisk posted:You could try to advance your own victory condition by loving with Havana. Or close a casino. Or negate DR control, which is super tenuous. Or go after M26, the only non threat on the board. Also the Syndicate is nowhere near victory 
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Jan 18, 2017 11:08
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Well M26 engaging the Government in a major battle in Las Villas is pretty historical except in this game the government is actually fighting back 
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Jan 18, 2017 11:34
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If they plan for it (and we let them), the Syndicate's resources could skyrocket on the next Propaganda round. But you guys are right that Directorio are currently the most likely to reach their victory condition before the next Prop.
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Jan 18, 2017 16:23
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Tekopo posted:Or, you know, you could do something about it because A) you have more resources than us in terms of pure actions and B) you are in a much better place to actually hit the DR where it hurts (IE oriente).Sure we could spread our troops in the countryside and do exactly gently caress all to actually drive our victory condition, or, much more simply, you give up LV as lost and do something that actually helps your victory condition (like setting Oriente to opposition). Hitting the DR in oriente is almost impossible for us without leaving sierra maestra out in the wind. It would take most of our guerillas in a march then an assault on a later round. On the other hand, you could shimmy two cubes to matanzas and camaguey province each and gently caress up their game plan without really hurting your stance at all. Dr. Lunchables fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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Jan 18, 2017 16:58
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Lord Frisk posted:Hitting the DR in oriente is almost impossible for us without leaving sierra maestra out in the wind. It would take most of our guerillas in a march then an assault on a later round.
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Jan 18, 2017 20:08
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We don't have the resources to actually take oriente. We could rally into sierra, then march, then ambush, over the next six turns, and still not have them out. Then say we ambush again, we're flat broke. We don't generate any resources, we don't advance our win condition, we barely stop the DR (since we're only taking away a single province) and we actively hurt our board state. Oriente was a lost cause as soon as they put in a second base.
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Jan 18, 2017 20:35
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Lord Frisk posted:We don't have the resources to actually take oriente. We could rally into sierra, then march, then ambush, over the next six turns, and still not have them out. Then say we ambush again, we're flat broke. We don't generate any resources, we don't advance our win condition, we barely stop the DR (since we're only taking away a single province) and we actively hurt our board state. Oriente was a lost cause as soon as they put in a second base. And it would be cheaper for you to do it as well! And you could do more stuff there because we literally have two actions left on our current budget. Tekopo fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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Jan 18, 2017 21:10
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Again, that would bankrupt us, gain us nothing, and actually lose us points by removing a base. We won't do it. I don't know why you have a boner for LV when Havana is your key to victory. Use your resources however you see fit.
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Jan 18, 2017 21:12
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Lord Frisk posted:Again, that would bankrupt us, gain us nothing, and actually lose us points by removing a base. We won't do it.
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Jan 18, 2017 21:15
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Well, same to you I guess. Even if I agreed, we can't actually act right now, so I don't know what you expected to accomplish. You've gotta do your action and then the syndicate does before we even have an option.
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Jan 18, 2017 21:16
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Lord Frisk posted:Well, same to you I guess. Even if I agreed, we can't actually act right now, so I don't know what you expected to accomplish. You've gotta do your action and then the syndicate does before we even have an option.
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Jan 18, 2017 21:18
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You're the only faction that has enough pieces and the placement to really gently caress with the DR and make it hurt. You're also the only faction that can remove more than two pieces at a time. The DR won't win this round if both M26 and government stand their ground.
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Jan 18, 2017 21:19
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Government, I need a response for your next action or you will going with:Vivian Darkbloom posted:All in for Las Villas? That would look like
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Jan 18, 2017 21:36
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I, uh, I just talked with Bautista and he says that's totally OK no need to ask anyone else no sir all good
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Jan 18, 2017 21:47
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Crazycryodude posted:I, uh, I just talked with Bautista and he says that's totally OK no need to ask anyone else no sir all good Bautista? The wrestler?
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Jan 18, 2017 21:58
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HannibalBarca posted:Bautista? The wrestler? M316
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Jan 18, 2017 22:00
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I don't think we should go all in for Las Villas but we should definitely at least train + pacify there, without needing to move additional troops.
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Jan 18, 2017 22:06
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Close enough
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Jan 18, 2017 22:08
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Government are still at an impasse between Vivian and Tekopo's plan so I will be deferring until one of the other Government players chime in.
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Tekopo posted:I don't think we should go all in for Las Villas but we should definitely at least train + pacify there, without needing to move additional troops. I'm good. The nuke option sounds fun but..
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