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It's not at all uncommon if you have a small number of main characters in an established story that at least one of them will be scum exactly to prevent 4 or more people to flavour claim and immediately become confirmed town. Maybe they're all town here, but it is really not a strong argument for someone being town that they have a PC as flavour.
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Well, I'm one of the main playable characters and already part of the story. Goddammit Tobbs.  Like if you're town all you have to do is shut up at this point and you would unlikely to be lynched, but here you go spouting exposition like an idiot
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Jan 23, 2017 05:25
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King Burgundy posted:I'm fine with voting any of the vote leaders but stick I guess. Why not stick?  I don't know about this early claim business either, I can sympathize with doing that poo poo early as town if I'm getting peeved at somebody calling me scummy. Plus there was the incident from last game where we know he flavor claimed super early, and look how that went... IllegallySober posted:On a quick re-read (and it was pretty quick since there's not a lot there) apart from the unpressured flavor claim, I don't see a lot I have an issue with. This though, I don't like too much. Refia is one of the major playable characters, but I would hope that the game isn't so blatantly flavor-solvable as to give us 4 confirmed towns just from that. It's a bit tacky.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:26
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Infinitum posted:If you're talking Tobbs claiming unpressured like an idiot, then yeah that's bad No, that Moat's voting during the day event looks scummy on the surface but if you actually think about it logically it makes no sense for scum to try to do that. Literally press the ? next to my name if you want to read it. I've explained it several times.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:26
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IllegallySober posted:On a quick re-read (and it was pretty quick since there's not a lot there) apart from the unpressured flavor claim, I don't see a lot I have an issue with. Why wouldnt scum get a major character as fake flavor? It would be poor modding to not do that. What is the town motivation to claim at -8? IS, you're at -7. Do you feel like you should claim right now, at this exact moment? Why or why not?
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Jan 23, 2017 05:27
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Asiina posted:It's not at all uncommon if you have a small number of main characters in an established story that at least one of them will be scum exactly to prevent 4 or more people to flavour claim and immediately become confirmed town. This has not been my experience in the last two FF games CPig ran. FFI- all the Warriors of Light were the scum team and the Four Fiends (of which I was one) were 3P. FF2- I don't know this game as well but Light was town and Boss Monsters were scum, as I recall.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:28
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I honestly don't remember if Pig used major characters for fake claims in previous FF's or not. But certainly the smart modding move is to do so. So it's normally not a good reason to assume someone is town. I feel like I've said this before recently, but like if you are making Fantastic Four mafia, at least one, if not more, of the FF have to be fake scum claims. Same with Xmen mafia(and I think if we looked at those games, that would be the case, I don't fully remember)
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Jan 23, 2017 05:28
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I actually do not recall what scum tried to claim last game
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Jan 23, 2017 05:29
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It's not like being Refia gives me any powers, and obviously it doesn't confirm me as town since I'm 1 off the vote leader from 3 empty votes. But yeah, FF2 the main characters were all town and part of story events.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:29
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Bifauxnen posted:Why not stick? I really admired his scum play in a recent game and this is nothing like it.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:29
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chaoslord posted:Why wouldnt scum get a major character as fake flavor? It would be poor modding to not do that. I don't know if we have enough people here to get any lynch done but I have no problem claiming flavor if needed and I also PM'd CPig and asked for a Wind job and a class change just in case I'm the vote so I can share the info.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:29
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Hey sorry about to go to bed, sorry for not posting more today. Was doing homework and watching football. Both my teams won, gently caress the steelers. Let's not no lynch today ##vote moatillata
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Jan 23, 2017 05:29
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I want to make it very clear right now exactly 30 minutes before deadline. I will not vote Moat even to prevent a no lynch. I will die on this hill.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:30
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King Burgundy posted:I really admired his scum play in a recent game and this is nothing like it. still want inf to clarify what exactly led to him having a meta read pointing to me being scum
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Jan 23, 2017 05:32
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:But yeah, FF2 the main characters were all town and part of story events. even the one that worked for the bad guys! 
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Jan 23, 2017 05:32
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Asiina posted:I want to make it very clear right now exactly 30 minutes before deadline. Scumbros watching out for scumbros, I can respect that this is a stickup posted:still want inf to clarify what exactly led to him having a meta read pointing to me being scum Cause I'm loving amazing at mafia Also if you don't constantly switch up your meta game, imma catchya
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Jan 23, 2017 05:33
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Hey Inf, read the loving case I've asked you to read twice now. Starting to get real mad at this game.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:34
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King Burgundy posted:I really admired his scum play in a recent game and this is nothing like it. I am intrigued and would like to hear more about this, but perhaps when things are less hectic
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Jan 23, 2017 05:35
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Asiina posted:I want to make it very clear right now exactly 30 minutes before deadline. Who should I vote for instead? I'm about to go to bed!! That rhymes
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Jan 23, 2017 05:35
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Mr. F! posted:Who should I vote for instead? IS
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Jan 23, 2017 05:35
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chaoslord posted:Yep. Tobbs is scum. Wrap it up. I don't think this is a real reason to believe someone is scum. chaoslord posted:Just wanted to make sure! (And also it was a good way to get us both a post since I was below CPig when I started and you still are This feels weird to me - CL is basically admitting that he questioned me about an obvious jokevote so he could generate content. That sounds like something scum would do (as opposed to town, who would find actual suspicious stuff). If we weren't close to deadline I'd be pushing CL harder. That said, we are, so: IllegallySober posted:Look how disingenuous you are Of the vote leaders, I think IS is posting like town trying to figure stuff out and I agree with the point about Moat trying to steer us the wrong way. ##vote Moat The cases on Tobbs feel like scum trying to drive a mislynch on town to me.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:35
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Bifauxnen posted:I am intrigued and would like to hear more about this, but perhaps when things are less hectic It's Shine III if you want to read it. I don't remember if you were in that or not.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:36
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Oh my god I'm so angry.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:36
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Infinitum posted:Cause I'm loving amazing at mafia well the first point is just a straight up lie the second makes no sense as my posting lately is pretty different compared to the last time I rolled scum that's a nice meta read you invented
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Jan 23, 2017 05:36
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Hasn't he flavor claimed King or something? He seemed pretty confident in it. I don't like that he advised us to immediately attack, given that he looked at the guide and left out the part where we meet another character there. It does seem to be deliberately misleading, and I don't remember, did he respond to that accusation? It appears not. ##vote Moat
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Jan 23, 2017 05:37
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I would like everyone who hasn't been playing the last 12-24 hours who is coming here and voting for Moat based on IS's reasons to at least acknowledge my very sound logic about why it makes NO SENSE even if you disagree.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:37
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Asiina posted:Hey Inf, read the loving case I've asked you to read twice now. You realise I have purposely put a Legendary Piece of poo poo gangtag in my avatar for a reason right? Cause I'm a sarcastic arsehole? So don't get a stick up your butt when I make jokes baby~ I've read your case on IS. I have stated I am currently voting Moat above IS, but both look slim shady. Would vote either.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:37
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I'm probably going to replace out of this game because I hate this apathy garbage.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:38
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Infinitum posted:So don't get a stick up your butt when I make jokes baby~ hello!
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Jan 23, 2017 05:38
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IllegallySober posted:I don't know if we have enough people here to get any lynch done but I have no problem claiming flavor if needed and I also PM'd CPig and asked for a Wind job and a class change just in case I'm the vote so I can share the info. The answer I was looking for was "Of course not." Like, you have zero motivation to claim right now. You're -7 to lynch! Why in the world would you just randomly, unprompted, throw out your flavor? Especially an hour out and needing 8 votes to be lynched. A nervous scum not wanting the winds to change and land on him would, though. Especially because like no one was talking about the votes on him. The funny thing is he would have skated by just fine if he hadn't tried to beat the story to the press.
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Mr. F! posted:Hey sorry about to go to bed, sorry for not posting more today. Was doing homework and watching football. Both my teams won, gently caress the steelers. Eh? Eh?
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Jan 23, 2017 05:38
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Asiina posted:I would like everyone who hasn't been playing the last 12-24 hours who is coming here and voting for Moat based on IS's reasons to at least acknowledge my very sound logic about why it makes NO SENSE even if you disagree. I'm voting Moat because he loving lied to the thread by presenting misinformation, potentially influencing a vote to shift the wrong way. I can acknowledge your case and not agree with it.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:39
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##vote illegally sober Sorry for lack of posting today. I'll be much more free to read everything I missed tomorrow
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Asiina posted:I would like everyone who hasn't been playing the last 12-24 hours who is coming here and voting for Moat based on IS's reasons to at least acknowledge my very sound logic about why it makes NO SENSE even if you disagree. I just saw this and see what you're saying. ##unvote Tobbs Gnawed posted:Hasn't he flavor claimed King or something? He seemed pretty confident in it. I don't like that he advised us to immediately attack, given that he looked at the guide and left out the part where we meet another character there. It does seem to be deliberately misleading, and I don't remember, did he respond to that accusation? Do you think he's lying about being a king or is it that you think his flavor doesn't necessarily dictate his alignment?
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How many people have come in now and voted for someone because of a reason that makes no sense, while completely ignoring a point by point reasoning on why it doesn't make sense and then were like "lol k I'm going to bed." Apathetic poo poo town ITT
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Jan 23, 2017 05:39
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Infinitum posted:I'm voting Moat because he loving lied to the thread by presenting misinformation, potentially influencing a vote to shift the wrong way. Except why would he do that as scum if he knew it was wrong and also in the same breath link the exact thing to disprove him???? If you don't agree then explain why
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Jan 23, 2017 05:40
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Murmur Twin posted:I don't think this is a real reason to believe someone is scum. You really don't think someone claiming at -8 and an hour til deadline is suspicious as hell? And you're second point would have more weight if the rest of my posts weren't trying to hunt scum. I made one post to pad my post count. God forbid I do that, I should have just posted a joke or something.
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Jan 23, 2017 05:41
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this is a stickup posted:well the first point is just a straight up lie who says you rolled scum this time?! 
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Mr. F! posted:Hey sorry about to go to bed, sorry for not posting more today. Was doing homework and watching football. Both my teams won, gently caress the steelers. Mr. F! posted:Who should I vote for instead? Mr. F! posted:##vote illegally sober Regardless of outcome today, you flipflopping like this is not a good look
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