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it's black mage. started with 1-shot vig I used mine to kill infinitum because he is a bad bad aus man with a fake fake meta read on me turns out he is only scum in real life, though
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Jan 24, 2017 03:38
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this is a stickup posted:it's black mage. started with 1-shot vig Why did you kill him instead of me, the person you were voting/pushing? Not that I'm complaining, just wondering why you didn't kill the player you were convinced was scum/hard pushing to lynch.
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Jan 24, 2017 03:45
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Why did you kill him instead of me, the person you were voting/pushing? I probably would have, but inf's "meta read" and general attitude was what sat wrong with me at the end of the day thank him I guess
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Jan 24, 2017 03:48
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Lmao why did no one kill me (glares at sticky) I thought I was your strongest scum tell?
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Jan 24, 2017 03:53
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Jan 24, 2017 03:55
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Black mage here popped asiina
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Jan 24, 2017 03:57
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##vote stickup he just happens to go BLM and doesn't actually kill his biggest scum read. Eh
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Jan 24, 2017 03:57
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this is a stickup posted:wait what the gently caress this is a stickup posted:switch the turbo to that rhyming chucklefuck this is a stickup posted:good man this is a stickup posted:if we lynch moat today, we all get 15 CP this is a stickup posted:I honestly could see it. this is a stickup posted:##vote moat, it rhymes! Meh im overreacting I guess
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Jan 24, 2017 03:59
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Kashuno posted:##vote stickup he just happens to go BLM and doesn't actually kill his biggest scum read. Eh sure sounds like you knew exactly what black mage would get you in advance cause I didn't
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Jan 24, 2017 04:00
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Moatillata posted:Meh im overreacting I guess four jokes, one "yeah maybe" in reaction to someone else, and pushing you above me when we were tied as vote leaders? please look at the interactions I had with inf
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Jan 24, 2017 04:01
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 Good, now I don't have to yell at town for that horrible finish to D1
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Jan 24, 2017 04:03
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this is a stickup posted:sure sounds like you knew exactly what black mage would get you in advance I mean I know final fantasy well enough to guess that blm would give a killing ability yeah
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Jan 24, 2017 04:04
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Moatillata posted:Meh im overreacting I guess Tbh I don't have the time or energy to go reread stick but I trusted both tobbs and moat to remember who was casing them but apparently not! ##unvote for now until tomorrow AM when I can reread
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Jan 24, 2017 04:05
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to be fair, I was pushing tobbs but I threw out him out for a vote with the reason "he's a good d1 lynch", not a case moat is moat
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Jan 24, 2017 04:07
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Since scum knew what all the jobs were, that means all members of the scum team could make a kill night 1? That's some bullshit setup if that's the case.
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Jan 24, 2017 04:08
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this is a stickup posted:to be fair, I was pushing tobbs but I threw out him out for a vote with the reason "he's a good d1 lynch", not a case Tbf I think everyone is out to get me and everything is about me Stickup knows this
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Jan 24, 2017 04:09
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I'll be back in the morning. To be honest I'm irritated enough at the setup at the moment that I'm not in the right frame of mind for this.
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Jan 24, 2017 04:10
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I got caught up during the night, and was ready to come in swinging (or at least flailing a little...) but four deaths is making things that much harder to process. Plus D1 was already absurdly dense for being D1. New read occurring now, which will unlock all the secrets of the universe. (secret of the universe is actually here, under the spoiler: CPig enjoys our suffering)
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Jan 24, 2017 04:47
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Why didn't you chucklefucks at least kill some lurkers christ ##vote stickup IllegallySober posted:I'll be back in the morning. To be honest I'm irritated enough at the setup at the moment that I'm not in the right frame of mind for this. I hear that
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Jan 24, 2017 04:55
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Four of our own have fallen, and assuming all stated true, it suggests a maximum of two scum went black mage. We have Kashuno claiming to have killed Asiina. If scum, good job. If town, you hosed up buddy. And owe us a painting. We also have stickup claiming to have killed Infinitum in what is either a clever fake slap fight concluded in his favor by force, or a loving dumb move. Other things to consider: death reports may not be 100% reliable, but let's look at the spread: MMT: White Mage.  RIP bestieGulagdolls: Monk  Asiina: Red Mage  kashunoInfinitum: Red Mage stickupNow if I remember my ancient 8-bit Theater, White mage is obvious, red mage is... variable? Lots of different things? I'm not sure about monk. Ki? Punching things? And you say there's more jobs coming?? Sheesh. Assuming that Kash and stickup were both above board and just made bad calls. (Happens to the best of us.) If you were a town BM, and you hosed up, it'd help to come forward I think. If we don't get confessions, we can at least make an assumption that scum targeted an unclaimed victim and assess. Obvious counterpoint: but pera, you could have rolled BM, shot your bestie because lol ultimate betrays, and now have the perfect way to leave a hole and make this argument and gently caress with town. I did not roll BM. The job I took did not have a killing ability of any kind. If anybody can prove this, that'd be nice of you. "But what if?" then okay, there's your case against me if nobody fesses up to one or both murders. As much as I love MMT my fondness for Gulag has also become known. Asiina as well. Even Infinitum and I, he may stomp his feet and shout, but I respect the man. Knows who he is deep down inside. I like that. That we have even have two town that blew their loads N1 I can hardly believe. I don't know. Moat? IS? It'd be nice to hear from you, obviously. Y'know, when you have time to post. Any scum that didn't and can afford to are probably gonna take advantage of the 1off NK and it's gonna gently caress us. Kash and stickup, why claim responsibility so quickly? Just wanna hear your reasoning mostly. Sucks to waste a one-shot on a townie. But you coming out straight up and saying it makes you look good and "reveals" your class. If either of you are lying, you're taking credit for kills to attract attention to yourselves and away from the actual killers?? Maybe?? This has been another massive word vomit post from Sara. Peace for tonight. Personal Addendum: Bet you laughed your rear end off when you got your role pm, MMT. Bet you've been so excited to tell me. Sorry I found out this way. My flavor isn't anywhere near as fun.
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Jan 24, 2017 05:03
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I'm a 3P Survivor. I had a chance to become light-aligned if I found Desch during the night, but Desch is dead. Just letting everyone know. When I still had a chance to become good I didn't want to claim, but now that I have no chance, I figure it would be best to just come out and say it.
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Jan 24, 2017 05:57
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peramene posted:Kash and stickup, why claim responsibility so quickly? Just wanna hear your reasoning mostly. Sucks to waste a one-shot on a townie. But you coming out straight up and saying it makes you look good and "reveals" your class. If either of you are lying, you're taking credit for kills to attract attention to yourselves and away from the actual killers?? Maybe?? with the other option being? lie? cpig sent a pm about skill level that says advancing a night + using a skill means I am now level 3, which was another shot of vig the bolded part just makes no sense. why would anyone do that?
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Jan 24, 2017 06:11
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I didn't realize we'd be advancing in level so quickly! Regardless. For the sake of argument, let's assume "you're" scum, alright? You and buddy2 know that you can switch to the right roles and get kills, but you also know people who get kills are going to draw suspicion. So, you were already being targeted (tunneled?) - maybe you're doomed today anyway. Say you killed Asiina. Really buddy2 did. But if you manage to survive today, not only do you now realize you have a second kill - something a scum stickup would know in advance and something a town stickup would not know in advance, theoretically scum could cycle through jobs with kills and slaughter a bigass chunk of town. Buddy2 lurks just well enough or remains in just the right light to not be identified and lynched. Scum could theoretically identify a path of least resistance where for the cheapest CP possible, they swap roles effectively enough to take advantage of all possible ways to kill town as quickly as possible. With a setup like what you're telling me BMs have - and I have no reason to doubt you, scum knowing how to get the most kills as quickly as possible is the whole loving game. Unless we have some kind of protection mechanic I haven't found out about anyway. Or somehow we can revive a bitch. Who knows. CPig crazy. The balance between scum knowing what job we are and what those abilities are makes claiming very dangerous? I think? What do I know, somebody more experienced and not have an awful night loving figure this out
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Jan 24, 2017 06:33
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Sara this is what's called setup spec and is mostly useless and is just a good way for scum to look like they're posting content and aren't really doing much. Also I agree with stickup that one scum taking credit for another scums kill makes very little sense.
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Jan 24, 2017 06:40
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this is a stickup posted:cpig sent a pm about skill level that says advancing a night + using a skill means I am now level 3, which was another shot of vig what the fuuuuuuck ##unvote ##vote bifauxnen
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Jan 24, 2017 06:42
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Bifauxnen posted:what the fuuuuuuck Lol
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Jan 24, 2017 06:54
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Huh, ok. So potentially if everyone took black mage, this could have been some version of everyone has a vig?
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Jan 24, 2017 07:11
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lot to unpack here probably put together a solid effort case in the morning, but i for one did not pick up a job on day 1 also lol i can't believe i survived that massacre
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Jan 24, 2017 07:12
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peramene posted:Unless we have some kind of protection mechanic I haven't found out about anyway. I can confirm that one of the roles provides protection. I'm fine claiming if we wanna go that route. Scum already know what all the roles do, so maybe it's worth sharing?
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Jan 24, 2017 07:15
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Absurd Revolver posted:lot to unpack here Effort case??  King Burgundy posted:Huh, ok. I feel like we should mass claim at this point and the game may be solveable? What are your thoughts?
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Jan 24, 2017 07:16
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King Burgundy posted:Huh, ok. yeah, with two shots each apparently! Kash can you confirm? (or one of the other BM's if they feel like coming forward?) Absurd Revolver posted:i for one did not pick up a job on day 1 Why the hell not you lazy bum, a likely story ##vote Absurd Revolver
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Jan 24, 2017 07:16
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Bifauxnen posted:yeah, with two shots each apparently! Kash can you confirm? (or one of the other BM's if they feel like coming forward?) I would laugh extremely hard if this game ended in two nights
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Jan 24, 2017 07:18
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I'm having trouble finding a place to dig into this game and make any real solid reads. Semi-stream of conscious reactions as I go through it yet again. I don't like BK's D1. Even with his 3P claim, it feels like he tried to drag joke phase out longer than anyway, and made weird forays out of it just to later retreat. BottleKnight posted:awkward post next response: BottleKnight posted:funny post The awkward came across to me as actually trying to make a point, after which BK retreats to jokes for most of the rest of the day. Getting to the Asiina/KB bits, I can see why things got so heated. Asiina was apparently (we know now) coming from a town viewpoint, but doing a very poor job explaining her point. Combining "I expect much more out of town KB" with posts like Asiina posted:Which part? That there's barely been any content and 150 posts took like 15 minutes to read or that I would have voted for B? BottleKnight posted:Asiina, Sara, welcome to the wildcats Joke phase is pretty much over, and here BK is, going strong. Also Kash. I haven't seen Kash try at all so far. Hold for part 2!
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Jan 24, 2017 07:19
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Moatillata posted:Effort case?? Yeah, I mean, i don't know if we'll be able to solve for who the scum are, depends on the abilities. But I think we could probably protect against the onslaught of kills? At least a bit, if we shared what all the roles do so far.
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Jan 24, 2017 07:19
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Moatillata posted:Effort case?? how would a game where any player can take any job be solvable
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Jan 24, 2017 07:19
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Moatillata posted:I feel like we should mass claim at this point and the game may be solveable? What are your thoughts? I doubt it would be solvable, cause anyone could've freely chosen anything. I was hoping maybe later on we could press people under suspicion to quickly explain their whole backstory of job choices and use that as a way to judge how sincere and forthcoming they are, but who knows if we'll even have a D3 at this rate, bloody hell
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Jan 24, 2017 07:21
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Bifauxnen posted:I doubt it would be solvable, cause anyone could've freely chosen anything. I was hoping maybe later on we could press people under suspicion to quickly explain their whole backstory of job choices and use that as a way to judge how sincere and forthcoming they are, but who knows if we'll even have a D3 at this rate, bloody hell Yeah, I mean, we could all switch to black mage and the game could end tonight, rofl.
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Jan 24, 2017 07:22
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BTW, AR, can you tell me the thought process that led to you not choosing a job? I'm trying to put myself in that place and I'm just not getting there.
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I dunno we have two people who didn't claim their kill. I'd wager at least one of them is scum If youre town and you vig someone the best thing you can do is immediately claim it
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