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peramene posted:just for shiggles why'd you go thief, Mith? Because it was the only agility wind job, I anticipated wanting to go magical later, and I figured we'd have a lot of black mages (and boy did we).
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IllegallySober posted:Has anyone claimed a job that provided a redirector at Level 1? Yes. Moat did. Moat said Monk got a 1-shot Nexus. So passive redirection, but still.
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Jan 27, 2017 05:49
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Mine failed. I don't understand why, since that isn't normally how rod's work. But since AR is claiming his failed too, maybe it wasn't a rod?
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Jan 27, 2017 05:53
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King Burgundy posted:Mine failed. I don't understand why, since that isn't normally how rod's work. Or could it have been this? Absurd Revolver posted:oh right I never really got how he got these odds from the 3 abilities he said he picked though. And it still doesn't explain what the hell chaos is going on about. 
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Jan 27, 2017 05:56
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I failed all the actions. I am "missing" my CP because I had to spend all of it to do my ability. I was hoping to catch someone in a lie about succeeding an action or leveling up but apparently leveling up happens even on fails so that did not quite go as planned. 
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Jan 27, 2017 05:58
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Bifauxnen posted:Or could it have been this? Ohhhh, that makes sense. I hadn't put together that it would do both of those things.
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Jan 27, 2017 05:59
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chaoslord posted:I am "missing" my CP because I had to spend all of it to do my ability. but I thought you were a red mage 
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Jan 27, 2017 06:01
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Bifauxnen posted:but I thought you were a red mage I am! It is not a red mage thing.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:02
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chaoslord posted:I failed all the actions. Hmmm, so you were lying/gambiting. What you are describing doesn't sound like any of the jobs the rest of us have gotten/revealed so far.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:02
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chaoslord posted:I am! but I thought you said you picked red mage D1
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Jan 27, 2017 06:03
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Bifauxnen posted:but I thought you said you picked red mage D1 I did! I picked red mage D1 and have remained a red mage the whole time. Don't have any cp to switch after using my ability so I'm stuck with it til the next event minimum
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Jan 27, 2017 06:05
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King Burgundy posted:Hmmm, so you were lying/gambiting. Its independent of any job, just to be clear
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Jan 27, 2017 06:07
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I was sitting here going oh he must be the rod, that's why he's waiting but uh, you're now claiming that you have an ability not related to your job? cause if so, I have something to tell you about town members and abilities
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Jan 27, 2017 06:09
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Gonna call my shot with my vig, gonna shoot bottleknight probably. Pig mentioned other alignments in ff1 and ff2 op but none here. Know that isn't rock solid or anything so not confident enough to build a case but pera says he isn't probably going to be around much and at best an apathetic 3p at end of game sounds bad so just gonna take care of that
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Jan 27, 2017 06:10
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this is a stickup posted:I was sitting here going oh he must be the rod, that's why he's waiting  vote your conscience, but I am town that has an ability outside of my job
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Jan 27, 2017 06:13
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Jan 27, 2017 06:14
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IllegallySober posted:Has anyone claimed a job that provided a redirector at Level 1? Not that I know of, but without access to a database of what every got dang job does who the gently caress knows. Maybe we had a third thief. Idk ##vote chaoslord This kinda feeks lovely of me since I literally made the exact same sort of rules-mistake myself a smidge ago but this was a protracted campaign over the course of a pretty big while that got pretty confrontational and I'm willing to put my vote on it. Scum should lurk like hell in this game and you kinda have been. You have just enough posts that you're involved. ScumCL comes out and tries to figure out what went wrong with the plan last night, feigns a rule mistake we've been over - Mr. "Someone's Not Reading the Thread" - and then waffles back and forth between... lies? Fake claims? At the very least you have a non-Freelancer starting role and ya oughta go ahead and fess up to that. chaoslord posted:Gonna call my shot with my vig, gonna shoot bottleknight probably. Pig mentioned other alignments in ff1 and ff2 op but none here. Know that isn't rock solid or anything so not confident enough to build a case but pera says he isn't probably going to be around much and at best an apathetic 3p at end of game sounds bad so just gonna take care of that "I'm gonna shoot the one person pera suggested lynching as a last resort who isn't gonna be around and definitely isn't town without any idea what the consequences of allowing me to do that might be but might be, but at least he's an agreeable target to take pressure off of me."
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Jan 27, 2017 06:14
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this is a stickup posted:why do you have said ability? It was in my role PM. Ask Cpig past that
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Jan 27, 2017 06:17
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CapitalistPig posted:Every player in the game will begin as a freelancer with no abilities (Other than some possible power roles relating to Capacity Points) I mean, I guess this says its possible for there to be some other things, but my take on this is that they would do something with capacity points. Like maybe a capacity point cop or something. What Chaos is describing doesn't seem to fit? But maybe I am misinterpreting the above?
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Jan 27, 2017 06:18
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chaoslord posted:People I would vote today: Vigging BK isn't going to take pressure off me but a worthless survivor does not need to see the end of the game. I am a fine Setup Spec vote but this is a long, bad case to try to hide that point.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:21
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Awww, KB I was kinda hoping to sit on this a bit longer, to see how hard people tried to push it and possibly frameup Chaos but since you've already quoted that one relevant bit, I saw one other sentence in the OP that seems to relate: CapitalistPig posted:The only Stat that any player will have is Capacity Points which will be used to purchase jobs when they become available and there are also other things that may be done with capacity for some people.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:22
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peramene posted:Not that I know of, but without access to a database of what every got dang job does who the gently caress knows. Maybe we had a third thief. Idk I don't even what rule mistake did cl make? I absolutely buy his reason for waiting to reveal and I figured the same thing out before he did so, and he's pretty clearly said he has an ability not connected to any job, or in other words, would have started as a freelancer. there is no reason for him to claim it before this point, and he was correct - a lightning rod would not have gone off. quote:"I'm gonna shoot the one person pera suggested lynching as a last resort who isn't gonna be around and definitely isn't town without any idea what the consequences of allowing me to do that might be but might be, but at least he's an agreeable target to take pressure off of me." his plan is objectively better than yours. what consequences are you even talking about? do you think lynching him would have different consequences or be better in any way? and in what way does this take pressure off of him except guaranteeing he doesn't guess wrong and hit town?
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Jan 27, 2017 06:22
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King Burgundy posted:I mean, I guess this says its possible for there to be some other things, but my take on this is that they would do something with capacity points. Like maybe a capacity point cop or something. What Chaos is describing doesn't seem to fit? But maybe I am misinterpreting the above? a power role that uses cp fits it exactly. I also buy it as a town power because his role stopped all scum kills dead.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:24
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Bifauxnen posted:Awww, KB I was kinda hoping to sit on this a bit longer, to see how hard people tried to push it and possibly frameup Chaos Yeah, I guess combined that checks out pretty well. I must have just misinterpreted that one bit.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:25
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this is a stickup posted:his plan is objectively better than yours. what consequences are you even talking about? do you think lynching BK would have different consequences or be better in any way?
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this is a stickup posted:I was sitting here going oh he must be the rod, that's why he's waiting this is a stickup posted:why do you have said ability?  stickup, what were you getting at here cause all of 15 minutes ago you seemed to be really trying to hint that Chaos claiming this was super scummy, and now I am getting whiplash reading your current posts
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Jan 27, 2017 06:27
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FWIW, I don't think we can rely on someone shooting BK. Since Mithross apparently targeted BK and got nexus'd to MrF or whatever. He may very well have another.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:28
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this is a stickup posted:what rule mistake did cl make? chaoslord posted:I failed all the actions. But he still claimed to receive a PM from CPig saying: Bifauxnen posted:What do you mean "missing", like you got a message saying you lost some during N2? chaoslord posted:Correct this is a stickup posted:his plan is objectively better than yours. what consequences are you even talking about? do you think lynching him would have different consequences or be better in any way? and in what way does this take pressure off of him except guaranteeing he doesn't guess wrong and hit town? weird poo poo going on with say: redirections, protections, something to do with an ability BK could use slipping CPig a pm while otherwise lurking, any possible number of things. I have no loving idea what could happen during the next night phase except that I know there are unknown unknowns, to so confidently say "yeah, I'll shoot BK" screams otherwise to me. Just LOOK at the poo poo AR's claiming he has to put up with in his role, like there is absolutely no guarantee his shot is going to hit BK.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:31
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Back to this real quickperamene posted:feigns a rule mistake we've been over did someone on D2 come in say they were roleblocked but still double leveled? I don't remember that but TBF I skimmed a lot of d2 from being on the road
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I wanted to see what chaos would say. I would imagine that scum also have power roles and roleblock isn't indicative of alignment, but in this game where scum have a potential large amount of NKs, a mass rb could be a game changing town ability. not so much if it were a scum ability I feel like a lot of my replies are calling people scum in a sassy manner. you should know
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Jan 27, 2017 06:32
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chaoslord posted:Back to this real quick Yes, people have claimed they failed their action, but it was still used up and they still got a skill level for it
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Jan 27, 2017 06:33
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peramene posted:But he still claimed to receive a PM from CPig saying: Yes. That was sort of bending. My result PM did say I have 0 cp left, but that was a function of my ability costing All of my points.
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this is a stickup posted:I wanted to see what chaos would say. I would imagine that scum also have power roles and roleblock isn't indicative of alignment, but in this game where scum have a potential large amount of NKs, a mass rb could be a game changing town ability. not so much if it were a scum ability ok it was just weird cause like 1 minute you're all interrogating CLfor being super scummy, then next you're peramene for besmirtching CL's super-townie name. I'm a little disoriented here with all the fakeclaiming and realclaiming going on also you seemed to believe that CL's ability was the one that stopped everybody's actions, but did he actually claim that? I still thought it was just AR's "jail AND lightning rod myself" thing going off
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Jan 27, 2017 06:35
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Mithross posted:Yes, people have claimed they failed their action, but it was still used up and they still got a skill level for it Do you happen to remember who did it d2? Want to go read their posts but on mobile and 
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peramene posted:But he still claimed to receive a PM from CPig saying: you think that cpig sending him a pm telling him his cp went down is scummy? I got one when I switched jobs quote:weird poo poo going on with say: redirections, protections, something to do with an ability BK could use slipping CPig a pm while otherwise lurking, any possible number of things. I have no loving idea what could happen during the next night phase except that I know there are unknown unknowns, to so confidently say "yeah, I'll shoot BK" screams otherwise to me. Just LOOK at the poo poo AR's claiming he has to put up with in his role, like there is absolutely no guarantee his shot is going to hit BK. King Burgundy posted:FWIW, I don't think we can rely on someone shooting BK. Since Mithross apparently targeted BK and got nexus'd to MrF or whatever. He may very well have another. ar doesn't have a role that we know of. he has a convoluted job. the black mage is also a job, but just a simple vig. I'd imagine red mage is the same given the way he's talked about it. unless you have knowledge of bk's role, which it sure sounds like you do, do we have any reason at all to believe bk is a nexus? this is wild speculation.
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Bifauxnen posted:ok it was just weird cause like 1 minute you're all interrogating CLfor being super scummy, then next you're peramene for besmirtching CL's super-townie name. I'm a little disoriented here with all the fakeclaiming and realclaiming going on He claimed it. chaoslord posted:I failed all the actions.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:37
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Bifauxnen posted:also you seemed to believe that CL's ability was the one that stopped everybody's actions, but did he actually claim that? I still thought it was just AR's "jail AND lightning rod myself" thing going off chaoslord posted:I failed all the actions.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:37
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King Burgundy posted:He claimed it. aaaaaaah thanks now I got it I thought it was like self deprecation at his failed spreadsheet gambit
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Jan 27, 2017 06:39
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Bifauxnen posted:ok it was just weird cause like 1 minute you're all interrogating CLfor being super scummy, then next you're peramene for besmirtching CL's super-townie name. I'm a little disoriented here with all the fakeclaiming and realclaiming going on ar said his action failed, cl's ability is a mass roleblock, so yeah I thought cl was going to claim rod and was looking for any thief successful in stealing from him to determine how many there were or something vOv
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this is a stickup posted:you think that cpig sending him a pm telling him his cp went down is scummy? I got one when I switched jobs Sorry, I've been using role/job interchangeably this game since I wasn't thinking about potential people like chaos with actual roles. I have knowledge gained from this day phase which you have theoretically also been reading.  We've only had two people claim getting CP taken from them. And two thieves claimed. One of those thieves, Mithross, claimed to target BK, a person who hasn't claimed getting stolen from. Moat said monk got Nexus. Do you really consider this wild speculation? 2+2=?
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