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I haven't had a spinning disk drive in my main machine since 2010
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Jan 26, 2017 17:26
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I need to replace an hdd in an older machine that generally sees little use (thinkpad t410 in my workshop), cheaply. 120 gigs is fine, maybe even 60 - can I go lower than the $54 for the sandisk z400s?
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Jan 26, 2017 17:33
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When I built my mother's PC I used a 64GB SanDisk SSD that I had lying around. Haswell i3, 8GB RAM and Windows 10. Runs really well for what she needs it for. I wouldn't recommend going as low as 64GB for anything other than a surfing and email machine though. She also keeps her Dropbox photos on there. I think she's got about 20GB free.
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Jan 26, 2017 17:58
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Even health insurance companies provide SSDs in their employees' laptops now. Health insurance companies. Let that sink in for a moment. Get a single 128GB SSD for your OS if that's all you want to spend. I'm about to buy one for my wife's laptop right now because the HDD makes troubleshooting anything too slow.
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Jan 26, 2017 18:01
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I loving hate troubleshooting computers with spinning rust. It makes me literally mad. And to think that those were state of the art up until very few years ago...
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Jan 26, 2017 18:09
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SSD isn't the way of the future. It's the way of right now, and that's if you are late. Starting rule of thumb: don't buy home-use HDDs. Those are the tech of the past. They're over for home users and most gamers. This is becoming less of an opinionated generalization and more of a universal ... fact? as the months wear on.
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Jan 26, 2017 19:06
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Potato Salad posted:SSD isn't the way of the future. It's the way of right now, and that's if you are late. Do you have any idea how expensive it would be to store all my Linux ISOs on flash
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Jan 26, 2017 19:18
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I wouldn't call you a home user. Cue tit-for-tat discussion on the broad gray lines between home users, gamers, enthusiasts, SOHO, SMB, and mid / full enterprise. Extra points for nested venn diagrams.
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Jan 26, 2017 19:36
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VostokProgram posted:Do you have any idea how expensive it would be to store all my Linux ISOs on flash I can't tell if a massive amount of Linux ISOs + anime avatar makes this a joke or serious post
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Jan 26, 2017 19:37
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Potato Salad posted:SSD isn't the way of the future. It's the way of right now, and that's if you are late. I thought NVME is the way of the future now. Hey buddo nothing wrong with HGST DeskStar 4tb for media storage. No way in hell I'm paying the prices they are charging for SSD storage.
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Jan 26, 2017 20:22
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Agrajag posted:I thought NVME is the way of the future now. NVMe's a *glimpse* at the future. The interconnect isn't ideal, and it takes up too much space on a motherboard, but it does allow OEMs and console makers to use thinner and smaller chassis. Honestly, the most 'exciting' development on the horizon are DRAM-less SSDs. Right now they're not large enough and cost too much, but as NAND gets better, you'll be able to affordably eliminate HDDs for storage altogether in favor of SSDs that might only make ~300MB/sec, but they'll do it at the same low latency as a current SSD, with no moving parts. I'd love a 4TB 3.5" block of slower NAND in favor of a 4TB spinner.
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Jan 26, 2017 23:04
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BIG HEADLINE posted:NVMe's a *glimpse* at the future. The interconnect isn't ideal, and it takes up too much space on a motherboard, but it does allow OEMs and console makers to use thinner and smaller chassis. Read that got me soooo excited.
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Jan 26, 2017 23:16
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VostokProgram posted:Do you have any idea how expensive it would be to store all my Linux ISOs on flash ...and an SSD cache drive!
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Jan 26, 2017 23:26
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BIG HEADLINE posted:NVMe's a *glimpse* at the future. The interconnect isn't ideal, and it takes up too much space on a motherboard, but it does allow OEMs and console makers to use thinner and smaller chassis.
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Jan 27, 2017 03:14
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SourKraut posted:They'll have to include some form of long term power source in them though since SSD's aren't as effective at long-term data storage as a HDD is. whats the definition of long-term storage?
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Jan 27, 2017 14:03
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Agrajag posted:whats the definition of long-term storage? Today, for home users? Cloud.
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Jan 27, 2017 14:05
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Agrajag posted:whats the definition of long-term storage? Park data on it and let it sit for > 1 year on a shelf. Potato Salad posted:Today, for home users? Cloud.
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Jan 27, 2017 18:13
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metallicaeg posted:I can't tell if a massive amount of Linux ISOs + anime avatar makes this a joke or serious post A little of one, a little of the other But, actual question, I want to get a second ssd to use as a steam library. I've been kicking myself for missing the black Friday deal on the 1 TB 850 evo. Is there a decent 500 GB or 1 TB drive that's cheaper than the evo?
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Jan 27, 2017 19:04
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I use a Sandisk x400 for that exact purpose. It's $265 for 1tb vs $319 for the 850 evo 1tb.
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Jan 27, 2017 19:13
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Yeah the x400 is a great line of drives. The best cheap option.
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Jan 27, 2017 19:41
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Samsung Magician has been bumped up to v5.0. Sleek new UI with not many user options. They finally got rid of all the useless performance 'optimisations'
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Jan 27, 2017 22:27
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Cowwan posted:I use a Sandisk x400 for that exact purpose. It's $265 for 1tb vs $319 for the 850 evo 1tb. I've bought new in box 850 Evo 1tb from Newegg on eBay for $260. In fact, I've bought three of them. They've sold them multiple times on eBay with batches of 300-400+.
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Jan 28, 2017 00:24
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SourKraut posted:Park data on it and let it sit for > 1 year on a shelf. Well sure, SSDs can't be used for that, but I doubt anyone was even thinking of using them like that. Maybe you should look into Blu-Ray disks, they should last even longer than harddrives in offline storage.
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Jan 28, 2017 12:55
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I just "scored" this 512 GB NVME SSD of craigslist for $100. I quote scored because I dont know if it works, I've certainly never heard of Lite-On whom I associate $8 DVD drives with having a sticker on cutting edge SSD technology, and frankly the "Dell Products" tag makes me think (know) this is stolen lol He said his sister gave it to him, although he was otherwise very well versed in computer tech and was totally willing for me to pop it into a laptop to check it, he conveniently did not know where "she" got it  This drive was the last piece of the puzzle for my little MITX monster machine. Guess its time to sell and do it all over, I heard there was a 0.4% improvement over skylake with the new Intel stuff I gotta have it
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Jan 29, 2017 04:58
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It's probably just a Dell OEM drive. Not really surprising for Lite-On to make it, they could totally be an ODM for other companies' SSDs too.
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Jan 29, 2017 05:59
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Eletriarnation posted:It's probably just a Dell OEM drive. Not really surprising for Lite-On to make it, they could totally be an ODM for other companies' SSDs too. Oh yeah im sure. Perhaps a work laptop got an equivalent amount of cheap rear end SSD space in its place ... In any case, it seems to work just installed Windows and the read/write usage is pretty much exactly what he said  
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Jan 29, 2017 07:09
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They have the specs on their site: http://www.liteonssd.com/pcie-ssd/CX2-SERIES.html. Lite-On's also apparently the parent company of Plextor, and Plextor's M8Pe "shares its hardware platform with parent company Lite-On's CX2 client SSD for the OEM market" (Anandtech). The Lite-On's specs are a little more conservative, though.
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Jan 29, 2017 09:41
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Grog posted:They have the specs on their site: http://www.liteonssd.com/pcie-ssd/CX2-SERIES.html. Oh nice, sweet. I didn't think I'd read a review of this, even if its a shared platform sort of thing. Seems like it was worth $100 at any rate
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Jan 29, 2017 10:31
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replacing a 512gb nvme drive with a lovely platter drive and giving the laptop back to your workplace seems like a really slick way of fencing for money since most people wouldn't actually notice
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Jan 29, 2017 10:46
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Better pray the owning office isn't watching for that exact thing in system center. "Excuse me, between 5pm Tuesday and 8am Wednesday someone hosed with tpm, there is a chassis intrusion and there's a new drive in the device." "Holy poo poo someone broke into my home?" "Looks like it, hey, don't worry, I'm taking the laptop right now, FBI will see if they can print / look for hair and see who stole hardware and encrypted important data, we'll tell you if someone is identified" I wasn't involved when that happened, and to my knowledge it hasn't happened again. Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jan 29, 2017 |
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Jan 29, 2017 15:28
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:replacing a 512gb nvme drive with a lovely platter drive and giving the laptop back to your workplace seems like a really slick way of fencing for money since most people wouldn't actually notice lol
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Jan 29, 2017 15:39
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I've been reading about M2 drive heat problems. How much of this is just weird edge case events or something equally rare? I thought flash memory and such was supposed to be cool and quiet.
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Jan 30, 2017 21:09
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The controllers can use a good amount of energy for their size and what is often a very tight space with little airflow.
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Jan 30, 2017 21:15
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It is surprising how hot nvme drives get, the external of most u.2 drives are one big heatsink and will be VERY hot to the touch if it is workin hard. I think the intel 3700 is something like 25W active (10W idle) which is a fair amount for something not very big. Once controllers move to smaller processes like how cpus do this will hopefully get better, but who knows once pcie gen4 comes around!
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Jan 30, 2017 21:26
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That said, it takes a moment to heat the hell up. 7s continuous full load for 950 PRO and it starts to thermally throttle if memory serves correctly. If you're loading that thing full bore continuously for more than 7s, though, you've got a fairly heroic use case. 960 EVOs fixed this issue somewhat with the Polaris controller and a minor heat-spreading feature. I'm not aware of throttling being an issue in the real world on high-quality nvme for home, game, and productivity users. Let me know if you find a good case though.
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Jan 30, 2017 21:29
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A number of newegg reviews are making GBS threads on the Plextor M8Pe for overheating, but I'm not one to judge accurately if that means much or not.
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Jan 30, 2017 21:57
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What kind of situations cause overheating? I just play videogames so I'd say that's a pretty common use.
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Jan 30, 2017 21:58
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Dali Parton posted:What kind of situations cause overheating? I just play videogames so I'd say that's a pretty common use.
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Jan 31, 2017 08:24
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Dali Parton posted:What kind of situations cause overheating? I just play videogames so I'd say that's a pretty common use. Here we go again
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Potato Salad posted:That said, it takes a moment to heat the hell up. 7s continuous full load for 950 PRO and it starts to thermally throttle if memory serves correctly. Would playing a game that is installed on a 960 EVO encounter heat problems?
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