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Level 3 bard randomly removes votes and makes me a triple voter.
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Jan 30, 2017 16:58
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Also, it did preclude me from using a night action.
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Jan 30, 2017 16:59
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tried to jail murder BK and I didn't get any sort of response at all.
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Jan 30, 2017 17:02
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also sorry for not posting much over the weekend. Tales of Berseria came out and I managed to put in 30 hours or so but that didn't leave much time for that.
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Jan 30, 2017 17:05
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i am now level 5 and have all terrain types making my action even more hard to predict i geomanced pera last night but have no idea what it did, just that it succeeded
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Jan 30, 2017 17:28
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IllegallySober posted:There's several people (including myself) that need to do more posting today. That would be nice. I'm not really expecting it though.
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Jan 30, 2017 17:59
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Now that we are three nights in, potentially there are people who could have cleared out a job and started a new one. What are people's thoughts on claiming? I know some of us already have and I've been tight-lipped on mine because early on I didn't think it made a lot of sense to reveal it, but I'm starting to think at this point it may be more beneficial than not.
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Jan 30, 2017 18:04
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HEY GUESS WHO JUST GOT A loving PM FROM CPIG SAYING HE MISSED MY ACTION
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Jan 30, 2017 18:06
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Cpig if you hate me playing FF Mafia so much just tell me I won't join jeez  Anyway I got told my action succeeded but my target already has the same effect so I didn't get to ask my question or kill him. NEAT.
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Jan 30, 2017 18:09
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my new actions include another bus drive, another roleblock, an assassin vig, and a juggernaut vig
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Jan 30, 2017 18:09
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Absurd Revolver posted:my new actions include another bus drive, another roleblock, an assassin vig, and a juggernaut vig This is sounding more and more like a scum picked a scum role
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Jan 30, 2017 18:11
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Kashuno posted:HEY GUESS WHO JUST GOT A loving PM FROM CPIG SAYING HE MISSED MY ACTION You sure seem to have some bad luck in this game.  Kashuno posted:Cpig if you hate me playing FF Mafia so much just tell me I won't join jeez Aren't you the jailer/kill guy? Your target had the same effect- so you're saying somebody else jailed them before you could?
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Jan 30, 2017 18:17
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IllegallySober posted:You sure seem to have some bad luck in this game. Yeah I seem to have bad luck in FF games period. Last game cpig didn't list my HP so everyone immediately lynched me. It feels like it is on purpose  IllegallySober posted:Aren't you the jailer/kill guy? Your target had the same effect- so you're saying somebody else jailed them before you could? yep
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Jan 30, 2017 18:22
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Kashuno posted:Yeah I seem to have bad luck in FF games period. Last game cpig didn't list my HP so everyone immediately lynched me. It feels like it is on purpose And you flipped scum that game, too. Worked out just fine, as far as I was concerned.
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Jan 30, 2017 18:31
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IllegallySober posted:And you flipped scum that game, too. Worked out just fine, as far as I was concerned. Not as far as I was concerned though!!! killed by mechanics
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Jan 30, 2017 18:33
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IllegallySober posted:Now that we are three nights in, potentially there are people who could have cleared out a job and started a new one. Wait, the scum already know all of the roles, right? So by sharing role information, we are helping town be more informed. And since everyone has role(s), it shouldn't really change scum targetting. Role stuff should totally be on the table.
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Jan 30, 2017 18:56
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Grandicap posted:Wait, the scum already know all of the roles, right? So by sharing role information, we are helping town be more informed. And since everyone has role(s), it shouldn't really change scum targetting. Role stuff should totally be on the table. Early on I didn't believe it made sense to share too much role info because potentially scum could pick off people going for jobs that got much more powerful at higher levels. Now, though, I think we are deep enough into the game that we should be able to draw a pretty good picture of where everything's at (and potentially catch people lying about actions they took).
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Jan 30, 2017 19:06
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Kashuno posted:This is sounding more and more like a scum picked a scum role it is basically a role full of random scum actions all of which can hit me instead at random and yet I love it
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Jan 30, 2017 19:10
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I'm still all for sharing info. There were several people including Tobbs who were against it previously.
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Jan 30, 2017 19:20
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Grandi, have you caught up? Thoughts on scum?
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Jan 30, 2017 19:22
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King Burgundy posted:Grandi, have you caught up? Thoughts on scum? 5 pages in, not caught up, reading now though.
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Jan 30, 2017 19:24
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King Burgundy posted:I'm still all for sharing info. There were several people including Tobbs who were against it previously. At this juncture I have no problem doing it but I think if we decide to, everyone needs to.
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Jan 30, 2017 19:28
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King Burgundy posted:I'm still all for sharing info. There were several people including Tobbs who were against it previously. Should I share everything? Like the fact that level 5 monk can reflect night actions on their users and that Ranger gets a 2-shot track at level 1? I'm for it at this point lol
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Jan 30, 2017 19:35
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Should I share everything? this is weird considering how strongly against it tobbs was.
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Jan 30, 2017 19:36
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Kashuno posted:this is weird considering how strongly against it tobbs was. It's because I felt compelled to share the most dangerous one already, that level 1 bards are double voters and level 3 bards are triple voters.
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Jan 30, 2017 19:38
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Wait, why does tobbs know so much? I haven't gotten there yet.
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Jan 30, 2017 19:44
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Grandicap posted:Wait, why does tobbs know so much? I haven't gotten there yet. I was just doing the math on this. It's quite possible if he just chose ranger now. But why did you choose now instead of waiting to see the last crystal's jobs, Tobbs?
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Jan 30, 2017 19:47
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The way he dropped it I assumed it was as a taste of his info, not the total of it. That makes sense. Grandi Progress: page 9 and still reading.
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Jan 30, 2017 20:01
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Thief 1 - Yoink, take 5 CP from another player Thief 3 - 1-shot Nexus Geomancer - one shot terrain (random effect as AR described, chance to backfire). Gain another shot at 3, as well as increasing the number of different random effects possible. Another shot and more possible effects at 5.
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Jan 30, 2017 20:11
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Absurd Revolver posted:
Joke post. Event 1 Response, first person to decisively vote after Bif recommends A. Nobody really talks about the vote and just votes their conscious or their conscious' bandwagon. Absurd Revolver posted:once again the impulsive quick vote is the right choice Rationale for the above Event 1 vote and then jokephase content wrt KB from day 1 most of which went right over my head; I leave interpretation of jokephase content to the rest of you. Absurd Revolver posted:I have no idea who to vote for after reading all 12 pages of this day 1 Absurd Revolver posted:to be fair, once again i'm dealing with the consequences of living in florida and we have another massive storm(this time, maybe tornados) bearing down on us "A rare "high risk" severe weather outlook was issued on the morning of Jan. 22 by NOAA's Storm Prediction Center (SPC). This was the first high risk severe weather outlook to be issued by SPC since June 3, 2014, which gives an idea of how unusual they are, though the number of severe reports and tornadoes on Jan. 22 were less than expected." (https://weather.com/storms/tornado/news/severe-weather-forecast-south-high-risk-tornadoes-january-2017) - this checks the gently caress out tho for real Absurd Revolver posted:lot to unpack here "Didn't pick a job day 1" claim followed by a noncommittal promise of a solid effort case which never materializes. Absurd Revolver posted:i didn't pick one because i wanted to wait for a better job before spending CP, isn't that how the system works? Technically speaking, this isn't as big a misunderstanding of the rules as I originally believed. When we take jobs day 1 and then use our abilities, we become level 3, which adds 3 CP to the cost of changing jobs per the original rules of the game at the time of this post. (This rule has since been discarded.) Think about how limited your CP pool has made you so far, town players: I've always had more than enough. AR had no way of knowing this was going to be the case, town or scum, and the fact that - presuming honesty - he's thinking outside the box hoping for more CP and taking a risk, this is exactly AR as I have known him. I want to suggest that consciously pooling remains scum behavior, but that may not have been as apparent. Event 3 response - Like myself, AR missed event 2 entirely. His is the second vote for option A, following IS. Absurd Revolver posted:(8:38 PM) sorry i basically dropped out from posting, lots of stuff happened at once over the last couple of days and we're also in the middle of moving After wildly misunderstanding how the CP and job system even works, I surprise everyone with a sincere effort case on my good friend AR. I point out to town that IS didn't bitch about me stealing from him (though Mr. F surely did - so that's inconclusive) but I may have just beaten him to the punch. AR responds: Absurd Revolver posted:(9:02 PM) i actually did take a job, just now Absurd Revolver posted:(10:45 PM) also i'm a geomancer It has become apparent that town players should do what they can not to claim their current job. That is how scum knows what to anticipate. However, intel on what the job abilities do is highly valuable to town. The valuable information is the abilities, not which job. Here, AR gives town and scum players the exact wrong information from town's perspective. Only after receiving a vote from Bif does he remember to give town the information we actually want: Absurd Revolver posted:(11:27 PM) oh right Absurd Revolver posted:(11:29 PM) i chose Underwater(Jail), Cave(Jail), and Sky(Lightning Rod) in case anyone else wants to go for this class I'm not certain it matters much, but there's a small discrepancy here - AR informs us of the Geomancer's level 1 abilities as a result of his terrain choices, and even offers this helpful clarification. Geomancer looks like an RNG-heavy nightmare. The sort of class that fits AR imo. Underwater and Cave together buff his initial chance to successfully jail his target; Sky gives him a 1/4 chance to make them into a lightning rod; and he begins with a backfire option: one of his abilities used on himself. Geomancer. Absurd Revolver posted:(12:06PM) my scumpinion for today is this is a stickup, just based on how people have voted/unvoted on them AR glances at votefinder, comes up with a totally valid though perhaps unsound player to target. The first individual named in one of AR's game posts, and last night, stickup flipped town. Absurd Revolver posted:yeah i'm not gonna be around for deadline He then totes voats Mote because there's a bandwagon forming, and like I've been saying since day 1. Absurd Revolver posted:
AR presents his plan to survive the expected n2 Black Mage Apocalypse or die in a blaze of glory. (Tangent: could he have known Chaos was using his ability that night? The two operating together would be particularly gruesome in this combination. AR makes this post as a "townie" breadcrumb, Chaos makes all abilities fail.) Absurd Revolver posted:(10:30 PMmy action sadly failed Absurd Revolver posted:(10:32 PM) Btw it was river for bus drive, plains for roleblock, and swamp for poison vig Continues to share the information he's obligated to share, but doesn't Geomancer look like a hosed up, ridiculous class? AR votes for the clear winner well after it is. (Grandicap jokevotes) Absurd Revolver posted:was busy all day without Internet except in spurts and I was more busy arguing with people about things and lifting poo poo Yes. That can't be tolerated, can it? AR hammers Mr. F. Absurd Revolver posted:my new actions include another bus drive, another roleblock, an assassin vig, and a juggernaut vig Absurd Revolver posted:it is basically a role full of random scum actions Ladies, gentlemen, and goons: AR is scum. The above represents his entire posting history in the thread. I slightly suspect the "backfire on yourself" element of his Geomancer claim is either fake - or failing that, an exhilarating rush to AR, regardless of alignment. Regardless, it is worth pointing out that this chance has decreased as he's gained in levels: something he would be fully aware of if he had access to that information. His job is full of what, by his own admission, are "scum actions," and absolutely, AR, I know you love it. I suspect you may even have been clever enough to know not to even bother wasting the CP on the original jobs, even if you could get an extra kill, because god drat it, you know these people. You know somebody like stickup is gonna roll BM just because, and you knew what was going to happen when they did. And you loved it. You also know that that extra 5 CP in exchange for a tiny bluff could be the difference between winning and losing for using these Geomancer abilities after you switch jobs. Night 3 - stickup dies and only stickup dies. AR claims to have targeted me and for it to have been successful. My guess? Stickup became a lightning rod, and died in a blaze of glory as almost all of the abilities used last night targeted him. Would anyone care to attempt to disprove this? AR does have other abilities that would've killed stickup. But he took aim at me knowing what was going to happen. Either I wasn't going to do it, or I was. AR knows exactly what I did last night. Don't you, buddy? Pretty nice trick. And you know me well enough to know that I definitely used that 1-shot Nexus N2. You knew I was lying about only being level 4. Or you missed the statement entirely. Can't wait to read whatever does actually exist in the scumdoc. Thief abilities are as follows, and require a certain amount of subterfuge to be used effectively: 1) Steal 5 CP from anyone. 3) 1-shot Nexus. 5) "Ultimate Thief" - a one-shot chance to hide behind somebody and they'll take any actions directed at you. You knew I was wrong about stickup and was gonna dive on him last night. So you targeted me and your action was successful. You sacrificed Mr. F, and then you used your advance knowledge of role abilities to take an honest stab at me or, if you were really right, me and, I assume, nobody else on the scum team bothered using a limited-use ability last night. Town: If I am right about AR, I believe that if any claiming is to be done, the entire history of a person's night actions must accompany that claim. N2 claims are largely worthless - save for Chaos. I believe with all of that information. ##vote Absurd Revolver, beloved friend, brilliant adversary, incredible liar, and at the very least, a lurker. And if this is right, bless you CPig, for goddamn once I got to be town and yet still lie my rear end off to secure victory.
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Jan 30, 2017 20:14
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Geomancy can backfire, I can confirm that much, as well as the terrain choices doing what AR said. I agree with your case (I had AR on my short list yesterday, nothing has changed), but I did confirm his job info, on the off chance he was scum lying stupidly. Although I never received odds like he gave, I was just told it has a small chance to backfire.
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Jan 30, 2017 20:29
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Mithross posted:Geomancy can backfire, I can confirm that much, as well as the terrain choices doing what AR said. I agree with your case (I had AR on my short list yesterday, nothing has changed), but I did confirm his job info, on the off chance he was scum lying stupidly. Although I never received odds like he gave, I was just told it has a small chance to backfire. Isn't that damning? If he has role info above and beyond with what info people who picked the job got?
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Jan 30, 2017 20:31
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mafia edits; couple sentences lost their endings as I went through multiple drafts: "...may not have been as apparent." --> "as apparent at that time." "...and like I've been saying since day 1." --> "since day 1, town should not take the odds on obeying the Never No Lynch. "I believe with all of that information." --> "information, the game may become solvable by town. But I don't believe it's there yet." I might've missed a few others. Point 'em out to me and I'll correct myself. Sorry - kinda going senile on these pills; spent all my "morning energy" on this grand case because the second stickup died I loving knew my gambit had worked.
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Jan 30, 2017 20:31
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Pera and Mith, I can't reply to everything right now but while we're here I can confirm what both of you said in regards to Thief class. I was the third Thief and did not claim. I stole 5 CP from Mr. F N1 and had 5 CP stolen from me, which Pera claimed to do to me (so I netted nothing). I used my one-shot Nexus N2. Last night I hid behind Pera. I have not selected a new class yet.
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Jan 30, 2017 20:32
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Grandicap posted:Isn't that damning? If he has role info above and beyond with what info people who picked the job got? Yeah, that seems bad to me.
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Jan 30, 2017 20:35
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I'll be around off and on throughout the day because beating my buddy at our own favorite game like this would be incredible. fake edit: LMFAO IS NICE but please lowercase my p in the future thank you. Sorry you blew your ult the same turn I did.
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Jan 30, 2017 20:35
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peramene posted:fake edit: LMFAO IS NICE but please lowercase my p in the future thank you. Sorry you blew your ult the same turn I did. Lower-case p, noted, sorry
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Jan 30, 2017 20:37
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IllegallySober posted:Pera and Mith, I can't reply to everything right now but while we're here I can confirm what both of you said in regards to Thief class. This one post changes a few things. Either IS is lying or I did steal from BK, and he never bothered to confirm it, even when I claimed thief, and stole from him, and we discussed thief actions for quite awhile, allowing town to assume a redirect happened. This makes me much more suspicious of BK (and a little more suspicious of IS, but BK has been the scummier of the two) If you hid behind Pera, who hid behind stickup, then whatever killed stickup could have been aimed at you instead of pera
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Jan 30, 2017 20:39
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Mithross posted:This one post changes a few things. I purposely did not claim Thief during that discussion of BK because I wanted to see where that conversation went. Okay, really gotta put my phone away at work. Back later.
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Jan 30, 2017 20:43
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Already claimed my other stuff: Changed to Viking. Can go berserk, at level 1 This does nothing, vig, or roleblock to a random target. N3: Berserk'd At level 3 it adds Bodyguard and Redirect as possible outcomes.
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