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poptart_fairy posted:I specified people who make no effort, not people who make the effort but have no opportunities. One becomes the other naturally. I've been unemployed for 3 years now, due to a lack of local opportunities, and it's demoralizing as gently caress. I don't blame anyone who abandons the pointless searching if they can live without it.
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Jan 31, 2017 18:00
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My unpopular opinion is that being unemployed sounds loving incredible. Get up when you like, sleep as long as you want, watch youtube videos and play videogames all day, exercise more, learn how to cook, don't worry about coming into work 5 days a week, don't stress about bullshit numbers or customer satisfaction. Sounds no bad compared to being constantly exhausted, being woken by an alarm at 6:00am every day, spending 40 hours a week having to pretend you give a poo poo about costs and codes, feeling your leisure time is to precious to waste to the extent you end up doing nothing, putting half your wage into a mortgage because you don't want to be in debt and paying off interest for years, eating takeaways because gently caress cooking when its 7 at night and you've been away for 12 hours, worrying about your car repairs because you don't want to triple your travel time by getting the bus, getting fat because you spend 18 hours sitting and 6 lying down. Yup. Being unemployed sounds loving great.
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Jan 31, 2017 18:16
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Ramagamma posted:putting half your wage into a mortgage because you don't want to be in debt and paying off interest for years  if you don't just rent I mean seriously.
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Jan 31, 2017 18:18
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Jerry Cotton posted:
I started out renting and my mother called me an idiot and gave me £9000 on condition i use it for a house deposit and now that i pay double my monthly rate just to whittle down the years I'm not sure whats best.
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Jan 31, 2017 18:22
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Mortgages stopped making sense when jobs stopped lasting 30+ years
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Tony Bologna posted:Bill Withers is the greatest person to ever make music, bar none. We know, we know, we know, we know, we know... 
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Jan 31, 2017 18:35
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Jerry Cotton posted:
lmao if you do hmm yes I sure like living in a space with loud rear end in a top hat neighbors, bad management and constantly rising rent. yeah paying mortgage means interest and tax, and god forbid maintaining your own home, but these are not hard things with even the tiniest amount of trying
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Jan 31, 2017 18:41
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if you are comfortable being tied down to a mortgage. Bet your next genius move is gonna be raising a family! Not in this crazy world. No way, buddy, no way...
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Jan 31, 2017 18:55
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doverhog posted:
Yeah except for I'm not tied down because I have a thing called equity. I could sell my house right now if I really wanted to. But I don't, my house fuckin owns. And I can decorate and do things to it as I please! But please continue living in your apartment with white walls and 20000 restrictions.
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Jan 31, 2017 18:57
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I actually don't know wether renting or having a mortgage is best for me and that's a loving scary thing to admit too 5 years in.
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Jan 31, 2017 19:00
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lol if you raise a family
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Jan 31, 2017 19:05
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Was going to have kids but then trump and climate change and the economy being absolute garbage happened and my rent went up $150 a month and no one has job security so gently caress it.
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Jan 31, 2017 19:09
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bradzilla posted:Yeah except for I'm not tied down because I have a thing called equity. I could sell my house right now if I really wanted to. But I don't, my house fuckin owns. And I can decorate and do things to it as I please! But please continue living in your apartment with white walls and 20000 restrictions. A home is only "equity" if you're not living in it. If you're living in it its your home and you'll need another one if you get rid of it. You, sir, have an asset.
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Jan 31, 2017 19:13
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Solice Kirsk posted:A home is only "equity" if you're not living in it. If you're living in it its your home and you'll need another one if you get rid of it. You, sir, have an asset. You're right. My point that I'm not tied down to it still stands.
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Jan 31, 2017 19:18
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bradzilla posted:You're right. My point that I'm not tied down to it still stands. If you're above water on your mortgage, yeah. That's not always the case and with raising rates it may change things for a lot of people right away. That's not even getting into the specific housing markets and what not.
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Jan 31, 2017 19:21
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If I could afford a house within a reasonable distance of a steady job I'd do it with no hesitation. To me, being "tied down" is a good thing as long as you have job security. I hate having to move every 2-3 years.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:If I could afford a house within a reasonable distance of a steady job I'd do it with no hesitation. To me, being "tied down" is a good thing as long as you have job security. I hate having to move every 2-3 years. Welcome to the gig economy! Being tied down to a job was horrible, now people are FREE to explore a new city every few years. What the gently caress is a "family" ???
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Jan 31, 2017 19:28
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Gig economy? Protip: Commit tax fraud!
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Ramagamma posted:My unpopular opinion is that being unemployed sounds loving incredible. Get up when you like, sleep as long as you want, watch youtube videos and play videogames all day, exercise more, learn how to cook, don't worry about coming into work 5 days a week, don't stress about bullshit numbers or customer satisfaction. Your mortgage and bills don't disappear when your job does. Being unemployed means trying to hold your poo poo together with 40% less money. Sounds like you haven't really thought this through. Aramek posted:We know, we know, we know, we know, we know...
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Jan 31, 2017 19:41
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bradzilla posted:lmao if you do Thanks, Shaggar.
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Jan 31, 2017 19:42
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Purchasing a home is far better than renting for 80% of people. Not being beholden to lovely land lords or changing neighbors can do a TON to stablize peoples economic situation, especially at the lower end of the spectrum. In a perfect world where land lords take care of stuff 100% of the time and the savings are passed on to tenants, then yeah renting could work. But in the end its just a profit mill for the landlord rather than "flexibility" for the renter. Buy a house if you can, "tie yourself down" if you can. People in power are tied down, aren't they? The guys that run the city don't rent, do they? No they do not.
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Jan 31, 2017 20:36
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Build your house with your own two hands and the sweat of your brow and be free.
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Jastiger posted:Buy a house if you can, "tie yourself down" if you can. People in power are tied down, aren't they? The guys that run the city don't rent, do they? No they do not. This reads like an endorsement for being in power and running cities. Sounds stressful.
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oldpainless posted:Build your house with your own two hands and the sweat of your brow and be free. 
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:One becomes the other naturally. I've been unemployed for 3 years now, due to a lack of local opportunities, and it's demoralizing as gently caress. I don't blame anyone who abandons the pointless searching if they can live without it. OK but I'm still talking about people who don't make that initial effort.
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Jastiger posted:Purchasing a home is far better than renting for 80% of people. Not being beholden to lovely land lords or changing neighbors can do a TON to stablize peoples economic situation, especially at the lower end of the spectrum. In a perfect world where land lords take care of stuff 100% of the time and the savings are passed on to tenants, then yeah renting could work. But in the end its just a profit mill for the landlord rather than "flexibility" for the renter. Wouldn't be surprised if half the council rented 
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Jan 31, 2017 20:50
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The people in power could just buy a house with cash, they don't need to think about job security or waiting 2 years for the current house to sell while trying to move somewhere else or the side costs that most renters don't consider like maintenance and more types of insurances or hoa fees or someone letting their house go to crap on your sane street which drives your own value down or, you know, the complete inability for most working poor to save up anywhere near a down payment in the first place anyway E: also, house usually means living even father from work and away from public transit lines, so also factor in the big transportation cost increases, and also buying more premade/fast food due to having less time after a longer commute
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The question of buying or renting is far too complex for a single rule of thumb. It can vary wildly from city to city, even neighbourhood. It depends greatly on your financial situation, your career, and long term plans, the local housing market, interest rates, your investment strategy, so many things.
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Sentient Data posted:E: also, house usually means living even father from work and away from public transit lines, so also factor in the big transportation cost increases, and also buying more premade/fast food due to having less time after a longer commute That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Even small towns in the middle of nowhere have a local publix or something. Unless your commute is like 2 hours+, you have plenty of time to stop at the store. Or, you know, buy ahead of time when you do have free time. Using public transit for work is non-ideal anyway. I lived/worked in Zurich for a couple years which in my opinion has among the best, most efficient+on time public transit system in the world. I still wished I had a car all the time though.
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Condos combine all the worst financial and upkeep aspects of owning a home, plus HOA style drama with the condo council, with all the noisy neighbours and cramped bullshit of living in an apartment. They also don't hold their value nearly as well as a house does so are lovely investments unless you're airbnbing the poo poo out of it.
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Ramagamma posted:My unpopular opinion is that being unemployed sounds loving incredible. Get up when you like, sleep as long as you want, watch youtube videos and play videogames all day, exercise more, learn how to cook, don't worry about coming into work 5 days a week, don't stress about bullshit numbers or customer satisfaction. As someone who just started working again after four years, being unemployed is the absolute worst. Even though you can wake up whenever you want, you will immediately begin worrying about how you will make rent, how you will feed yourself, how you will afford gas to go and look for a job. And that's not even taking into consideration things like emergency car fixes and dental issues. Then before you know it, it's your mother's birthday! Your dad and sister each got her a wonderful gift, and you give her a hand made card. They say they understand that you can't afford much right now, and you know they do, but you see the worry in their eyes when you leave. The next day your dad calls you and asks if you need some money. You just know that your mom spent her whole birthday night discussing your situation with her husband. Happy birthday mommy! After applying for jobs, (online only, your car's brakes are hosed again,) you watch some YouTube videos. Then you browse your favourite dead gay forums, refreshing the pages until you are certain there are going to be no more new posts for a while. You go to the kitchen and look in the fridge. You've got expired ground beef, and one tortilla. With some spice magic, you make a taco you could probably feed to a dog. You go and check YouTube again. Nothing new. You check the forums. People bitching about trolls, so nothing new. You go to bed, just to wake up and do it all over again. Oh wait! There's an egg in the fridge! In the drawer! I forgot about that! Oh man, I'm gonna eat good tomorrow! So yeah, I'll take your 9 to 5 life over having to deal with that poo poo again any day.
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poptart_fairy posted:Food needs growing, arses need wiping, and engines need fixing. LOL that you actually think this. 
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Farming, nursing and engineering are stable industries tho'.
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Jan 31, 2017 22:46
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Blue Star posted:LOL that you actually think this. Check out this unwiped rear end haver over here
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I suspect the context of my post was missed.Field Mousepad posted:Mechanic work is always needed, my dad has been doing it for 30 years and he can go anywhere and pretty much tell his employer how much he wants to be paid. Good move on your part!
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yo rear end is grass posted:As someone who just started working again after four years, being unemployed is the absolute worst. Even though you can wake up whenever you want, you will immediately begin worrying about how you will make rent, how you will feed yourself, how you will afford gas to go and look for a job. And that's not even taking into consideration things like emergency car fixes and dental issues. Really though, the worst part of unemployment is the lack of socialization. Sure you can talk to family, or a significant other if you have one, but there's nothing quite like talking to people who don't intimately know you.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Check out this unwiped rear end haver over here It true. I also subsist entirely on my own boogers and never leave the house (if i can help it) thus negating the need of any enginess
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yo rear end is grass posted:Really though, the worst part of unemployment is the lack of socialization. Sure you can talk to family, or a significant other if you have one, but there's nothing quite like talking to people who don't intimately know you. I hope you keep beating it, internet friend
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poptart_fairy posted:Farming, nursing and engineering are stable industries tho'. Nah :smirks while tilting head back and to the left, shaking head slowly: lol
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