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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Weak. Should have bought that foaming stuff.

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shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


Somebody's been watching late night cable news

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/827002559122567168

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

shyduck posted:

Somebody's been watching late night cable news

The best is how he is both lying (the deal is about refugees, not illegal immigrants) and he basically confirmed the story: https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...m=.2117f5ca3d42

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Less than 2 weeks and there's an alarming trend that anything with a US Government seal on it can no longer be trusted.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
In true GOP fashion I'd say that with the way she was dressed she was asking for it

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

That wasn't exactly constructive. I still laughed though. Victim blaming is bad, but wearing that hat at a major nighttime protest in Berkeley in the current political climate is loving retarded.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



Kawasaki Nun posted:

That wasn't exactly constructive. I still laughed though. Victim blaming is bad, but wearing that hat at a major nighttime protest in Berkeley in the current political climate is loving retarded.

Yeah, as much as I disagree with Trump supporters the person who sprayed deserves some assault charges.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
JESUS CHRIST the administration is even leaky in the National Defense side. Reuters has U.S. officials talking about the botched Yemen raid and blaming Trump to some extent.

https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/827004940392370176

Yikes.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

Kawasaki Nun posted:

That wasn't exactly constructive. I still laughed though. Victim blaming is bad, but wearing that hat at a major nighttime protest in Berkeley in the current political climate is loving retarded.

Or a hoodie in a Florida suburb, right?

I agree it is retarded insofar as it's asking for trouble, but it shouldn't be that way according to our ideals. And this sounds like a great discussion to continue in the punching nazis thread.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Absolutely incredible

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
On the bright side with all the leaks and Trump's inability to shut up we really are looking at the most transparent administration in history

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


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DoktorLoken posted:

Yeah, as much as I disagree with Trump supporters the person who sprayed deserves some assault charges.

Seriously, it's a massive dick move and makes everyone else at that protest look bad.

Edit: seriously, who the gently caress just runs around and pepper-sprays random people

Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Feb 2, 2017

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Kawasaki Nun posted:

That wasn't exactly constructive. I still laughed though. Victim blaming is bad, but wearing that hat at a major nighttime protest in Berkeley in the current political climate is loving retarded.

I'm pretty sure she was there to see Milo speak and not just waltz through a crowd of protestors.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
So in more UC Berkeley updates: I just saw (Via that buzzfeed live feed) someone jump onto the roof of a car and try to smash in the windshield with a bat, and the car speeding off with him on it.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

M_Gargantua posted:

So in more UC Berkeley updates: I just saw (Via that buzzfeed live feed) someone jump onto the roof of a car and try to smash in the windshield with a bat, and the car speeding off with him on it.

Then the protestors picked another car at random and smashed the window out and peppersprayed that driver.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
Yeah, I was kinda starting to expect people to disperse if things started getting ugly but it looks like there are still a few thousand people in the streets

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

joat mon posted:

Yes, it does. Why gild the lily with hyperbolic lies/part truths/exaggerations when the truth is just as powerful and, well, true?
Why grant him evil mastermind powers and the ability to create and manage a breathtakingly efficient advance team?
From reading the other posts, it seems like people are more than able to give accurate, truthful descriptions of him that carry just as much emotional impact.
It bothers me more when it's done by people and causes that I agree with because the falsehood detracts from the truth that's already there and because I like to think we're better than that.

You realize how patronizing this attitude is right? This and what you said earlier this week when someone said an anti-LGBT EO would kill someone they know and your response to that was skepticism. Whether you intend to or not it comes across as giving the abuser the benefit of the doubt over the word of a person who is closer to the situation than you seem to be. This happens to minorities all the time -- their concerns diminished or a call to remain rational and it's pretty offensive.

It shouldn't matter if Milo outed one person or 20, his behavior is reprehensible. It easy to say that he's a troll and just ignore him, but that doesn't change the fact that he makes his victims lives hell. Does that mean riots are called for? No but some level of sympathy is required.

I appreciate your desire for truth but in both of these situations a little bit of introspection or basic research would have given you the answers you were looking for. Again, whether you intend to or not, the way you've been going about it is/is going to rub people the wrong way.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
I totally have sympathy for the anti-Milo crowd and fully endorse peaceful protests against him but as I sit here watching a roaming band of anarchists walking through a city and smashing everything in site long after his event is cancelled I can't help but think this is far more damaging to that cause than anything he could have said in one night.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

VikingSkull posted:

I totally have sympathy for the anti-Milo crowd and fully endorse peaceful protests against him but as I sit here watching a roaming band of anarchists walking through a city and smashing everything in site long after his event is cancelled I can't help but think this is far more damaging to that cause than anything he could have said in one night.

Counterpoint: It's UC Berkeley. They do this kind of thing and will continue to do this kind of thing, because they're UC Berkeley. I don't mean that as an insult, I mean that in a literal historical perspective, it's in textbooks and everything.

I just listened to the Austrailian PM talk and he's citing US officials, Sean Spicer, and Donald Trump as truthful sources. Man, the world is going to be hosed when they realize that all of those sources are total liars.

brand engager
Mar 23, 2011

VikingSkull posted:

I totally have sympathy for the anti-Milo crowd and fully endorse peaceful protests against him but as I sit here watching a roaming band of anarchists walking through a city and smashing everything in site long after his event is cancelled I can't help but think this is far more damaging to that cause than anything he could have said in one night.

The alt-right wants ethnic cleansing, so if you're upset at protesters over property damage you're giving more value to inanimate objects than human lives.

Robot Hobo
May 18, 2002

robothobo.com
So many layers to this.

* Sentence 1 is just hyperbolic nonsense, but the kind he's sort of a genius at. He's not starting with a fact, he's starting with an emotional outburst to trick the listener/reader into judging the following info emotionally, rather than rationally.

* Name-drop of Obama, of course. What's better than proof or a reasoned argument? Just say the name of the guy from the opposing team. Done, proved, no more critical thinking required.

* Trump says he needs to study the deal, which indicates that he has not already done so. He has the highest access to this information, the experts at interpreting it are at his beck-and-call, and there was absolutely no urgency to make this Tweet. Why not read up on the agreement before going on Twitter to shout about it? Remember, there is probably no human being on Earth who would need to expend less effort to have this sort of information provided to him and interpreted for him at moment's notice. That effort was not made.

* The agreement was for 1,250 refugees, which is too small of a number to even call "thousands." All things considered, it's a absurdly small number to be throwing an international hissyfit over.

* Trump insists that this deal is dumb. Not that it's flawed, or that it needs review, no it's straight-up dumb. How many people were involved in the decision, or what was gained or traded fo- No. DUMB.

* "Why?" ... Trump really wants us to know that he does not understand this deal. I'm pretty sure we figured that one out on our own.

* Either he didn't think we'd notice that his claim of it being "dumb" was based on the total ignorance that he managed to admit to twice within 140 characters, or it means that he's very proud of making decisive claims and decisions without taking the effort to look up even a minimal amount of relevant facts. Actually, it's definitely that second option, we've got a dead Navy Seal (among others) as evidence of that. It's probably also the first option.

* Obviously, referring to the refugees as illegal immigrants means he not only didn't study the deal before deciding to shout it was dumb, it sounds like he fundamentally misunderstood even whatever sound-bite version someone in his staff or on TV gave to him.

* Also, he refers to the refugees as illegal immigrants. Since we entered into agreement with Australia to take these refugees in, there's nothing illegal about them entering the USA. It's an agreement that literally makes it legal. Sentence 2 isn't simply wrong, it's a genuine oxymoron.



So the take-away for me is that our country is led by a man who thinks a 30-second Wikipedia search is too much work, and after having launched a botched operation that cost actual people their lives because of exactly the same kind of laziness/impatience on his part, he still doesn't think it's worth the bother.

Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Feb 2, 2017

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

SperginMcBadposter posted:

The alt-right wants ethnic cleansing, so if you're upset at protesters over property damage you're giving more value to inanimate objects than human lives.

Well I'm less upset about the property and more upset about the number of assaults I've seen happen.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

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VikingSkull posted:

I totally have sympathy for the anti-Milo crowd and fully endorse peaceful protests against him but as I sit here watching a roaming band of anarchists walking through a city and smashing everything in site long after his event is cancelled I can't help but think this is far more damaging to that cause than anything he could have said in one night.

Pretty much this.

SperginMcBadposter posted:

The alt-right wants ethnic cleansing, so if you're upset at protesters over property damage you're giving more value to inanimate objects than human lives.

He's not the alt-right, he's not the systemic threat the alt-right represents. He's one dude whose actual loving job is to rile up the opposition. Mock him, protest him, but for the love of god, don't play his game or do exactly what he's looking for. Like the very thing currently happening.

Protest the gently caress out of legislation, or the systemic poo poo that supports him. But this does more harm than good in my opinion.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
literally no ones opinion was moved one way or the other tonight

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


These kids just don't know to riot like the old days.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Waroduce posted:

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UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

LingcodKilla posted:

These kids just don't know to riot like the old days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot

Coming soon to a mixed neighborhood near you!

That riot was on such a different level than anything people protesting today could even imagine.

SwampDonkey
Oct 13, 2006

by Smythe

(and can't post for 4 years!)

Well the banks are certainly the target in the past 30 minutes.

Mechanics Bank, Wells Fargo, Chase, and Bank of America have all had their windows and ATMs busted.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Pesticide20 posted:

That riot was on such a different level than anything people protesting today could even imagine.

Its a wet dream to others.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


SwampDonkey posted:

Well the banks are certainly the target in the past 30 minutes.

Mechanics Bank, Wells Fargo, Chase, and Bank of America have all had their windows and ATMs busted.

gently caress! That would have some fun overtime going out to salvage the busted machines.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

facialimpediment posted:

JESUS CHRIST the administration is even leaky in the National Defense side. Reuters has U.S. officials talking about the botched Yemen raid and blaming Trump to some extent.

https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/827004940392370176

Yikes.

How the hell did they drop them on a reinforced base - and I say that as someone that wouldn't want that action to happen at all. I mean, seriously? Landmines?!

Edit: just reading that, they dropped a special forces team on a reinforced army. loving hell.

Hexyflexy fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Feb 2, 2017

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


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Ultra Carp
From the sounds of it, it's a miracle more people weren't killed.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


Back when the current Surpreme Court nominee was in prep school, he founded a club called the "Fascism Forever Club". I mean it could and probably is tongue-in-cheek but at the same time, what the gently caress :stonk:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4182852/amp/Trump-s-SCOTUS-pick-founded-club-called-Fascism-Forever.html

also Zeris please rename thread or subforum to "Fascism Forever Club" tia

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Reddit shuts down r/altright over doxxing. The funniest part was a few days ago a moderator said he doubted they were going anywhere since Reddit is a private company and can do what they like. Then Reddit finally realized that.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Casimir Radon posted:

Reddit shuts down r/altright over doxxing. The funniest part was a few days ago a moderator said he doubted they were going anywhere since Reddit is a private company and can do what they like. Then Reddit finally realized that.

Hopefully they keep shutting down subreddits like that instead of every few years or so taking a swing at a couple then setting on their hands. /altright formed after reddit shut down coontown so its not like they are unaware its a problem.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

did the state dept. dissent letter become public yet?

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Reverand maynard posted:

Hopefully they keep shutting down subreddits like that instead of every few years or so taking a swing at a couple then setting on their hands. /altright formed after reddit shut down coontown so its not like they are unaware its a problem.
A lot of the worst ones apparently ran off to use a Reddit clone called Voat. It'll take the r/altright babbies a while to reorganize but they'll either restart on Reddit or go to Voat. Reddit leadership is really dumb unfortunately. Their early non-response to all the child porn subreddits on the grounds of free speech was incredibly cowardly.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare


Holy poo poo, this state is doing something good for once? Nice.

Reverand maynard posted:

Hopefully they keep shutting down subreddits like that instead of every few years or so taking a swing at a couple then setting on their hands. /altright formed after reddit shut down coontown so its not like they are unaware its a problem.

They'll just gently caress off to imgur, as they've been doing for at least a year now.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Casimir Radon posted:

A lot of the worst ones apparently ran off to use a Reddit clone called Voat. It'll take the r/altright babbies a while to reorganize but they'll either restart on Reddit or go to Voat. Reddit leadership is really dumb unfortunately. Their early non-response to all the child porn subreddits on the grounds of free speech was incredibly cowardly.

yeah reddit is total bitchmade in regards to the free speech excuse.

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Victor Vermis
Dec 21, 2004


WOKE UP IN THE DESERT AGAIN

SperginMcBadposter posted:

The alt-right wants ethnic cleansing, so if you're upset at protesters over property damage you're giving more value to inanimate objects than human lives.

"The terrorists want death to America, so if you're upset at offending muslims you're giving more value to feelings than national security."

See? It sounds loving stupid regardless of which end of the spectrum is represented when self-aggrandizing fart-huffers say poo poo like this to justify their shallow, self-indulgent, behavior.

Nevermind that the very same behavior is what actually breathes life into whatever it is they're supposedly fighting against.

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