GrossMurpel posted:

Yeah I wasn't saying the game is particularly deep, but your post just reminded me too much of people criticizing video games with stuff like "wow this is boring you just press buttons".
It definitely needs some more depth but it's a fun twist.

The Ninth Layer posted:

In Trimps, when should I be switching from Lead to Corrupted? At 300M Helium collected it seems like Corrupted is a huge drop in run efficiency, by the 160s/170s my helium/hr takes a huge hit and by the time I've finished corrupted I could have completed two lead runs instead.

Sage Grimm posted:

This is true. I guess it was lost in the brevity but I wasn't saying it was a terrible game; my tolerance for idle games has definitely gotten shorter after getting through the more well-known choices. Idle Bouncer is early on and it appears to be getting regular updates so it may eventually evolve into a more crunchy game for me.

Poultron posted:

Even the monstrously huge tapper market on mobile is basically devoid of anything new that I've found.

Poultron posted:

I'm kind of feeling this way too. I've played a lot of different incrementals lately that all individually have some interesting idea or gimmick, but none that have really kept my interest for very long at all. Realm Grinder was the last one I sunk many, many hours in, but I haven't come back since the new stuff was added recently. It just seems like it takes too long.

I think the "genre" as weird as it still is to call it that could really use more games like Shark Clicker or Crank. Games that either have a story or at least have an aesthetic that implies one. For me, just seeing the numbers go up isn't quite enough anymore. I want a reward too! It's basically impossible to find any games like this, though. Even the monstrously huge tapper market on mobile is basically devoid of anything new that I've found.

Vil posted:

Pick your favorite dwarf build (probably dwairies), throw in E290 if you're having a hard time affording excavations, and excavate. Consider waiting for a later R or using rubies to reset excavations if needed.

You need to have dwarven forges and 3250 excavations, and beyond that it's a 0.5% chance per excavation. There's a similar artifact for drow with the same requirements (drow UB, 3250 excavations, 0.5% chance per excavation after that), which adds slots to drow builds. It's called Flame of Bondelnar. Both the horn and the flame are filed under quest artifacts rather than lore artifacts.

I'm a little surprised you didn't come across it in the process of getting through the R30s, actually, either accidentally just by playing, or by trying to use established dwairy (or whatever) builds and asking this same question of why you didn't have enough slots.

Aurora posted:

Idle Bouncer is actually some kinda nice brainless fun. If you hit level 500 on a ball it skyrockets x1M so it's not as linear progressionwise as I thought.

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

The bouncing balls are mesmerizing but that's all the game has going for it linear or not. The second you wish for flavor or new mechanics or something else besides mixing up the ball you want bouncing the longest and highest is the second the game loses all pull.

Aurora posted:

juggalo baby coffin posted:

has shark game updated recently? that one was my favourite. i've been enjoying swarm simulator but i wish it had charming graphics like shark game.

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

I got to like Sg or something. My first reaction to those screens was definitely "wait there are multiple balls you can get?" What I'm saying is I felt drained afterwards, the magic sucked on me and I wished to be free of it.

Randalor posted:

For Realm Grinder, what's a good research build for getting the Elder Dragon upgrade? I run into the problem of either not being able to hit the max mana, or I completely overshoot the max mana requirement but can't generate enough money to actually buy the upgrade.

Holyshoot posted:

which faction do you guys join to grand to your first reincarnation?

Vil posted:

http://musicfamily.org/realm/NeutralPrestigeBuilds/

Have a look under the "dragon unlock" section. It goes a lot faster if you can claw your way up to e33 gems first.

Vil posted:

http://musicfamily.org/realm/NeutralPrestigeBuilds/

Have a look under the "dragon unlock" section. It goes a lot faster if you can claw your way up to e33 gems first.


Dwarf/Fairy (Dwairy) if all that's left is to grind gems to that point.

However, R0 is a bunch of unlocks, so you might not yet be at that stage. Big-picture summary of R0:

- All six vanilla factions to unlock their heritages and learn their playstyles (don't start with Goblins, their spell basically needs nonzero gems to work properly)
- Your favorite playstyle of those (not Undead, they're infamously bad overall), to progress gems far enough to get 20 excavations and unlock Titans
- Titans until you get 25 excavations and unlock Druids, and maybe for an occasional change of pace even after you unlock Druids
- Druids for a lot of gem grinding until 200 excavations to unlock Dwarves/Drow and probably some more gem grinding after that to be able to afford their unlock quests
- Fairy for the final Dwarf unlock step that needs a ton of inns and buildings
- Dwarf/Angel if you plan to unlock Drow in R0, since you probably still need to rack up 10,000 spell casts and angels are best at that
- Goblin or Demon for the final Drow unlock step if you do that, otherwise it can wait until R3+ when it's faster to rack up the spell casts
- Dwarf/Fairy otherwise until your gems are high enough to reincarnate

And along the way, see what secret trophy unlocks you can easily snag. Some of them, like Mathematician or Speed Run, offer very nice benefits.

Unlocking Faceless can be delayed until a later R, and is good to do along with other things that require a lot of time spent in one abdication (like Beard Carpet). But if you're gonna take a 36-hour (or longer) break from the game for whatever reason you can just leave it on something that can afford the unlock once you get back, assuming you've got the 30 excavations as well.

Finally, R0 is one of the individual reincarnations that takes the longest (quite a lot of them you can knock out in a matter of hours, or sometimes under an hour) and has you playing as a variety of alignments, so it's often a good idea to consider pursuing Equality in R0 if you don't have major alignment-time imbalance. Equality requires a minimum of 1 day as each of good, evil, and neutral alignment, and for all the alignments to be within 60 seconds of each other. If planned out well, you can hit it right at the 3 day total mark.

You don't have to be online when you meet the requirement, so if you get two alignments close enough to each other and over 1 day, and the third less than that, you can just leave yourself on the third and idle or go offline, and you'll qualify when you come back even though you're now uneven in the other direction, since at some point during that idle/offline progress you had a period where you qualified.

Reincarnating resets those timers as far as Equality's concerned, which is helpful for if you've got like 3 months good and 2 days evil/neutral, but counterproductive if you've got 1 day evil, 1 day neutral, and 22 hours good.

Captain Foo posted:

why do so many of these Realm Grinder research builds so heavily boost clicking reward in non-elf situations? Is there a a mechanic I'm missing or are they assuming autoclicker use?

Kyrosiris posted:

Assistant output is based on click reward.

Captain Foo posted:

well then!

DACK FAYDEN posted:

Yeah, if they haven't changed the help text for assistants (which I assume they haven't because it's been vague forever) it's something like "clicks the treasure once per second" but they do indeed literally mean "they give you one click worth of money once per second" so clicking rewards are actually just straight-up multipliers for every build rather than just Elf-based clicking ones.

a messed up horse posted:

Soda Dungeon is out on Steam now.

a messed up horse posted:

Soda Dungeon is out on Steam now.

a messed up horse posted:

If you're grinding for gold be sure to use things like the Gold Shield (+30-40% gold per character depending on its level) and Vaan's Magnet if you have a spare accessory slot on a dude. That will let you start a hundred+ levels back and make the same for each monster as you would starting near your max.

I don't think the merchant is too useful, though. Thief seems better because he can hold a Magnet + whatever and you get all the chests from each boss to sell to the blacksmith.