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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Ahhh gently caress. If this enables Russia to invade Poland again...

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Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
stability at the top is very important which is why we see a lot of bland people up there

bannon is not good but I am not sure that ivanka trump, her husband, or kellyanne conway are bad

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

Vasudus posted:

I'm more concerned about them using ~cyber weapons~ that we most assuredly have in their power systems and industrial controls to brick the country. It's way less messy than saying OMG NUKES and much more likely given that the Trumpenfuhrer doesn't understand anything related to computers. I remember reading back when Stuxnet was a thing that bricking the entire power/water systems for the greater Tehran area would kill like millions of civilians.

Plus, it opens pandora's box for real on ~cyber weapons~ so maybe that lovely NBC show might actually come to reality.

Cyber weapons are scary because they're so easy to do. I've spent a large part of my life doing reverse engineering and hacking work, and there's pretty much nothing I've not been able to break into. If the British government said tomorrow "we're at war, we won't prosecute any hackers that hit the enemy", I'm fairly sure I could knock over a power station or chemical plant or something.

Industrial control systems are how can I put it, not good, and some idiot executive always ends up connecting them to the net to pull reports in.

Thing is, if I can do that, the amount of poo poo an intelligence agency will have now will be huge. I reckon they could turn off a country, easily actually.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Jared Kushner possibly sparing the LGBTQ community and murdering Chris Christie is so bizarre

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
I had to look into jareds personal life for a dinner event that got canceled. I didn't see anything hugely bad about the guy.

Jared hates chris christie for loving over jareds father though.

Jareds father was a bigger donor to the democratic party as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
My personal theory is that Trump has someone close to them that's gay. Family member probably.

The man who has made it his mission to insult just about everyone has been rather light on the LGBT community, given how it's a red meat demo for ~the base~

Obviously I mean Trump himself and not his admin (lololol hi Pence)

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
His hairdresser, don't want to piss off that magician

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


Vasudus posted:

My personal theory is that Trump has someone close to them that's gay. Family member probably.

The man who has made it his mission to insult just about everyone has been rather light on the LGBT community, given how it's a red meat demo for ~the base~

Obviously I mean Trump himself and not his admin (lololol hi Pence)

Trump said at the prayer dinner that he'd rate Pence a 12 on a scale from 1 to 10 :gay:

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

Can HBO hire back their crypt keeper already?

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Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

Vasudus posted:

I like that the two most reasonable, level headed people in the administration are two marine generals.

I can't get over how weird it feels to see Mattis in a suit.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Zeris posted:

Can HBO hire back their crypt keeper already?

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Guess I just got promoted.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hexyflexy posted:

Cyber weapons are scary because they're so easy to do. I've spent a large part of my life doing reverse engineering and hacking work, and there's pretty much nothing I've not been able to break into. If the British government said tomorrow "we're at war, we won't prosecute any hackers that hit the enemy", I'm fairly sure I could knock over a power station or chemical plant or something.

Industrial control systems are how can I put it, not good, and some idiot executive always ends up connecting them to the net to pull reports in.

Thing is, if I can do that, the amount of poo poo an intelligence agency will have now will be huge. I reckon they could turn off a country, easily actually.

I work with a few ICS customers. Most SCADA protocols and the PLCs that use them don't even use authentication or encryption. It's ridiculous.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I guess the thing that scares me the most is that modern society would be completely devastated by a total loss of critical infrastructure. Like an untold number of people would die within 45 days of disease, starvation, and thirst. That's assuming that you can maintain law and order, or that there's no external forces like say the invading army of the country that shut off the lights. But hey, it's not nuclear so gently caress em. The only thing that's stopping any of this from happening is the fact that thus far, nobody's had the stones to try it beyond the incredibly targeted Stuxnet family of weapons.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

DoktorLoken posted:

My first job when I was 15 was a UFCW grocery job with similar pay. Although the union rep got my job back promptly when I got fired for not working in lieu of going to school.

Weird. I had a UFCW job in college and I got $3 over minimum wage and no propaganda. It was pretty awesome.

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Bannon has got to go.

Not yet. He's the ugly, blatant face of the policies. Let him keep doing this to show everyone how hosed up Trump is.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Vasudus posted:

I guess the thing that scares me the most is that modern society would be completely devastated by a total loss of critical infrastructure. Like an untold number of people would die within 45 days of disease, starvation, and thirst. That's assuming that you can maintain law and order, or that there's no external forces like say the invading army of the country that shut off the lights. But hey, it's not nuclear so gently caress em. The only thing that's stopping any of this from happening is the fact that thus far, nobody's had the stones to try it beyond the incredibly targeted Stuxnet family of weapons.

Thanks for reminding me I should probably stock up on food. Got my own well so water is covered.

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this

LingcodKilla posted:

Thanks for reminding me I should probably stock up on food. Got my own well so water is covered.

Till they abolish the EPA and your well gets poisoned.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Vasudus posted:

I guess the thing that scares me the most is that modern society would be completely devastated by a total loss of critical infrastructure. Like an untold number of people would die within 45 days of disease, starvation, and thirst. That's assuming that you can maintain law and order, or that there's no external forces like say the invading army of the country that shut off the lights. But hey, it's not nuclear so gently caress em. The only thing that's stopping any of this from happening is the fact that thus far, nobody's had the stones to try it beyond the incredibly targeted Stuxnet family of weapons.

Current (or at least prior to the Trump administration) policy treats a cyber attack on critical infrastructure as an act of war and presumes a mixture of kinetic and cyber means for proportional response, so it's not too different from any other scenario.

Unless Bannon and Trump are in charge.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Fart Sandwiches posted:

Till they abolish the EPA and your well gets poisoned.

I heard someone at the gym talking about the Flint water crisis and he suggested they just get some of those brita water filters.

I'm not sure if he was serious, but I think it's pretty good insight into the intelligence of your average voter these days.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Fart Sandwiches posted:

Till they abolish the EPA and your well gets poisoned.

Possibly.I dont really live any were near heavy industry. If my water gets hosed up I'll probably already be dead.

Robot Hobo
May 18, 2002

robothobo.com

Third World Reggin posted:

Most protesters are not being paid.
But paid protesters is a thing. I've seen it done from the paying side.
Even if a significant percentage of these protesters were paid to do it (which I doubt), wouldn't that be a case of their backers using money as a form of free speech? The Republicans fought pretty hard for Citizens United, to ensure that spending unlimited amounts of money toward a political goal is simply a valid and legal use of first amendment rights.

psydude posted:

Current (or at least prior to the Trump administration) policy treats a cyber attack on critical infrastructure as an act of war and presumes a mixture of kinetic and cyber means for proportional response, so it's not too different from any other scenario.

Unless Bannon and Trump are in charge.
Trump is going to take a screenshot from his phone of an ad saying "Your PC may be infected!" That'll be used as proof of cyber warfare, and we'll start bombing Iran in retaliation.

Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Feb 4, 2017

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Robot Hobo posted:

Even if a significant percentage of these protesters were paid to do it (which I doubt), wouldn't that be a case of their backers using money as a form of free speech? The Republicans fought pretty hard for Citizens United, to ensure that spending unlimited amounts of money toward a political goal is simply a valid and legal use of first amendment rights.

Didnt they have a "Rebublicans Only LoL get bent Lefties" rider in that?

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
as far as I know, yah it is free speech so it is ok

it is still lovely though

Also you don't always just pay protestors, you some times just donate money to a group and mention that they should counter protest / protest something. It is understood if they want the funds they should do it then the organizers do the work for you.

This poo poo is all old hat so when people say that a rich person is paying for poo poo, they really mean something like this, which well... happens. If they did it is another thing but even if they did, you can't easily explain it without looking like a conspiracy nut since a lot of focus has been spent on discrediting these types.

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


Hexyflexy posted:

Cyber weapons are scary because they're so easy to do. I've spent a large part of my life doing reverse engineering and hacking work, and there's pretty much nothing I've not been able to break into. If the British government said tomorrow "we're at war, we won't prosecute any hackers that hit the enemy", I'm fairly sure I could knock over a power station or chemical plant or something.

Industrial control systems are how can I put it, not good, and some idiot executive always ends up connecting them to the net to pull reports in.

Thing is, if I can do that, the amount of poo poo an intelligence agency will have now will be huge. I reckon they could turn off a country, easily actually.

in the yospos security fuckups thread, a site that aggregates all of the machines exposed to the public internet and accessible via VNC with default credentials pops up at least once per thread interation. there's always SCADA poo poo in there

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Robot Hobo posted:

Even if a significant percentage of these protesters were paid to do it (which I doubt), wouldn't that be a case of their backers using money as a form of free speech? The Republicans fought pretty hard for Citizens United, to ensure that spending unlimited amounts of money toward a political goal is simply a valid and legal use of first amendment rights.

Trump is going to take a screenshot from his phone of an ad saying "Your PC may be infected!" That'll be used as proof of cyber warfare, and we'll start bombing Iran in retaliation.

Actually Trump is going to call his assistant in and say "take a screenshot of this" and his assistant will say "this isn't anything mr president" so he will fire his assistant and hire his expert-in-hacking 10 year old.

LingcodKilla posted:

Didnt they have a "Rebublicans Only LoL get bent Lefties" rider in that?

"No protesting abortions."

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

Vasudus posted:

I guess the thing that scares me the most is that modern society would be completely devastated by a total loss of critical infrastructure. Like an untold number of people would die within 45 days of disease, starvation, and thirst. That's assuming that you can maintain law and order, or that there's no external forces like say the invading army of the country that shut off the lights. But hey, it's not nuclear so gently caress em. The only thing that's stopping any of this from happening is the fact that thus far, nobody's had the stones to try it beyond the incredibly targeted Stuxnet family of weapons.

Stuxnet leaked, well that was the point, it was highly targeted but started infecting all sorts of poo poo, because a computer virus doesn't do what you want it to all the time. Someone could have replayed it, it was stupidly dangerous. God I'm surprised I didn't get arrested before I learned that lesson.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

Guess I just got promoted.

hail to the thief

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Robot Hobo
May 18, 2002

robothobo.com
There was a "town hall" meeting in my town this morning for Congressman McClintock, a Republican. There were lots of protesters outside, McClintock brought a police escort, there were bomb-sniffing dogs, the local news say they had to plead with the police to be allowed in. I didn't hear about the event until it was already starting, or I would have been there too. Waiting to hear any details of what was actually said (it ended just a few minutes ago), though I'd be shocked if it was anything but party-line nothings. This is generally a very red area of what is considered a very blue state.

The Tower Theater in Roseville was the venue, and they're about a week away from starting a production of "Legally Blonde: The Musical." The set is already in place and ready, so...

(click for big)


So much pink.

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maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
People not from CA or having lived here awhile generally have no concept of how fiercely Republican and intolerant parts of the state are. I do not miss that area, but Legally Blond the musical sounds delightful

Robot Hobo
May 18, 2002

robothobo.com

maffew buildings posted:

People not from CA generally have no concept of how fiercely Republican and intolerant parts of the state are. I do not miss that area, but Legally Blond the musical sounds delightful
Yeah, that's a huge misconception people have. Everyone tends to think of California as this wildly liberal place. Los Angeles area, San Francisco bay area, and a few of the coastal/college towns are what they're actually thinking of. Those places have dense populations, so they're relatively tiny areas that swing our overall votes to the Democratic side. They're also the only cities you tend to see in the news, TV shows, and movies.

Most of the rest of the state, which is a huge majority of it geographically, is politically and culturally not that different from the deep-south red states.

I grew up in a rural area about 25 miles North of the state capital. My high school had maybe 1,300 kids when I was there in the late 90s, I'd guess less then 10 were black. If there was a single gay student or teacher when I went there, they were smart enough not to make that public knowledge. My Biology teacher was a hardcore young-earth creationist, so he made sure we knew that Evolution wasn't a real thing. My cousin is on the school's shooting team, which I didn't realize until recently isn't a thing all schools have. The side of my family I was raised around (my parents excepted)... well, I only ever heard them resort to calling someone "a colored" when they were in mixed company and were trying to be more polite than usual.

There's a whole movement here for "The State of Jefferson," trying to get California to split in half. The intent of the split being to separate from the liberal areas entirely and become a new super-red state. It's a terrible idea for lots of reasons, but if you see 5 cars ahead of you on the freeway around here, you'll probably see at least one pro-Jefferson bumper sticker.

Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Feb 4, 2017

Sergg
Sep 19, 2005

I was rejected by the:

Vasudus posted:

My personal theory is that Trump has someone close to them that's gay. Family member probably.

Not just any friend, but Trump's old mentor lawyer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn

"He died on August 2, 1986, in Bethesda, Maryland, of complications from AIDS, at the age of 59.[7] According to Republican political consultant Roger Stone, Cohn's "absolute goal was to die completely broke and owing millions to the IRS. He succeeded in that."[36]"

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Sergg posted:

Not just any friend, but Trump's old mentor lawyer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn

"He died on August 2, 1986, in Bethesda, Maryland, of complications from AIDS, at the age of 59.[7] According to Republican political consultant Roger Stone, Cohn's "absolute goal was to die completely broke and owing millions to the IRS. He succeeded in that."[36]"

And McCarthy's chief council :catstare:

SwampDonkey
Oct 13, 2006

by Smythe

(and can't post for 4 years!)



Arkansas senator files resolution for constitutional amendment to define marriage as between man & women. He then gets his fee fees hurt when asked if he sees any hypocrisy in trying to have medical cannabis not be implemented until it's legalized federally. State's rights when he agrees and federal power for when he doesn't. Video in link.

http://katv.com/news/local/sen-rapert-files-bill-to-amend-us-constitution-defining-marriage-as-between-a-man-woman



SwampDonkey fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Feb 4, 2017

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP

Robot Hobo posted:

Yeah, that's a huge misconception people have. Everyone tends to think of California as this wildly liberal place. Los Angeles area, San Francisco bay area, and a few of the coastal/college towns are what they're actually thinking of. Those places have dense populations, so they're relatively tiny areas that swing our overall votes to the Democratic side. They're also the only cities you tend to see in the news, TV shows, and movies.

Most of the rest of the state, which is a huge majority of it geographically, is politically and culturally not that different from the deep-south red states.

I grew up in a rural area about 25 miles North of the state capital. My high school had maybe 1,300 kids when I was there in the late 90s, I'd guess less then 10 were black. If there was a single gay student or teacher when I went there, they were smart enough not to make that public knowledge. My Biology teacher was a hardcore young-earth creationist, so he made sure we knew that Evolution wasn't a real thing. My cousin is on the school's shooting team, which I didn't realize until recently isn't a thing all schools have. The side of my family I was raised around (my parents excepted)... well, I only ever heard them resort to calling someone "a colored" when they were in mixed company and were trying to be more polite than usual.

There's a whole movement here for "The State of Jefferson," trying to get California to split in half. The intent of the split being to separate from the liberal areas entirely and become a new super-red state. It's a terrible idea for lots of reasons, but if you see 5 cars ahead of you on the freeway around here, you'll probably see at least one pro-Jefferson bumper sticker.

That's pretty much any state. Almost all liberal states are ones with enough people in their cities to control the way the votes go.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
It'll be fun when one of donnie's tweets get introduced into an official judicial record and he loses a case because of them.

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/827986777096994820

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

SwampDonkey posted:



Arkansas senator files resolution for constitutional amendment to define marriage as between man & women. He then gets his fee fees hurt when asked if he sees any hypocrisy in trying to have medical cannabis not be implemented until it's legalized federally. State's rights when he agrees and federal power for when he doesn't. Video in link.

http://katv.com/news/local/sen-rapert-files-bill-to-amend-us-constitution-defining-marriage-as-between-a-man-woman

redneck dipshit posted:

“There is no hypocrisy in standing up for what you believe in,” said Rapert. “It is not bigoted to say that marriage is between a man and a woman.”

"its not bigoted to say this bigoted poo poo. yehaw! back off buddy im strapped and ill blow you away if you get too close!"

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it
When will they realize they are not going to be able to put that genie back in a bottle?

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


They've issued a travel ban on genies

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Michigan GOP member suggested that, in response to the UC Berkeley protests against Milo, that the National Guard should be deployed and be allowed to shoot protesters like Kent State:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michigan-gop-official-kent-state_us_58952eafe4b09bd304bb86f0?kpdto4ndkuykwewmi&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

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bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Flikken posted:

When will they realize they are not going to be able to put that genie back in a bottle?
Depends on who "they" is. Outcome is the same for all of them though. The talking heads that already do realize don't give any part of a flying gently caress because the base likes having that bigoted button pushed, so they're gonna go right on doing it to whip up the hatred and rally the deplorables. The ones that don't realize are ideologues that want to "save souls" by mental torture and shocking out the gay so they're gonna go right on whipping up the hatred and using the deplorables.

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