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SeXReX
Jan 9, 2009

I drink, mostly.
And get mad at people on the internet


:emptyquote:
I'm watching cheers for the first time I'm 3 episodes into second Diane and i don't know how much more I can take of this.

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PizzaProwler
Nov 4, 2009

Or you can see me at The Riviera. Tuesday nights.
Pillowfights with Dominican mothers.

Gravy Jones posted:

Finished off The Good Place as well. It definitely went places... which was fun, and I'm glad it's been renewed, but I'm still not into the actual sitcom/comedy aspect of it despite liking the cast. I hope that gets better as time goes on (it has done in Schur's other shows so I have hope).

I'm about halfway through this one right now, and I'm loving it. The concept is really hokey, but it's executed well. The cast (and by extension the characters) are incredibly charming too. Like a lot of Schur comedies it has a nice running story-line which I respond to very well in comedies.

Hey Fingercuffs
Nov 29, 2007

Yo baby, you ever had your asshole licked by a fat man in an overcoat?
I've been binging through Haven recently and I'm finally on the second half of Season 5 and I really feel like they spent way to much time in the early seasons setting everything up and having characters literally cycle through their development over and over just to have to rush through it all in the last season. But I guess that's normal for Syfy shows in general.

Edit: I should note I love this show just feeling very rushed through the end.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I binged through the Expanse last week and it was ok. Its rare for me to say this but I actually thought it was probably two short. It felt like they spent a lot of time in the first and second act and then right as the third act stuff was getting underway and the full picture was coming into view the season seemed to end suddenly. Its like the show runners thought that point of the season was what happened to the missing girl/ship when I felt that was really more of a bridge into the real plot of what's on that ship and how this is all playing out.

It gives me a reason to tune into S2, I guess, but it left me really cold on S1. Which I guess is why it took days before I even mentioned watching it and I only did because I saw someone else talk about it.

But, I mean, it looked good and was well done which I guess is what a lot of Sci-Fi fans were responding too because a lot of Sci-Fi is crap. So I'd argue that its basically the fact that it was done well that means I'm not judging it on some handicap "SyFy" standard like most of their shows and instead of just judging the plotting and narrative work.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
The Expanse would be so much better with a different main crew. All the acting choices are weird or bad except for Thomas Jane

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I don't hate the main crew but they weren't especially compelling and the main guy's backstory was a little too weird for me to really get anything from it. Although I'm a little invested in whether or not that one girl is OPA or whatever. And its probably a bad thing that I can't remember any of their names less than a week later.

Yeah, Jane's character was more compelling and interesting as he had a much deeper story and motivation. Which is part of the reason I felt like the season ended abruptly since by the time he joins the rest of the cast and the multiple stories start to connect the season ends.

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
I started to watch strike back based on the recommendations of people either in this thread or in the annual poll. I liked Banshee and Quarry so thought this could be similar. Noooooo.
There is essentially two types of scenes. Scenes that are like the average porn in everything except showing penetration (and you can tell right away which female characters are there to be naked at some point and which ones are there for the long run), and scenes where it is essentially 2 guys mowing down Africans, Arabs, or Eastern Europeans.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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SeXReX posted:

I'm watching cheers for the first time I'm 3 episodes into second Diane and i don't know how much more I can take of this.

You've seen the best. Just watch all the episodes with Gary's Olde Towne Pub and then the last 6 episodes of the last season and you're good. Then fire up Frasier and watch it front to back if you haven't seen it. I think Frasier was a million times funnier than Cheers.

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

It looks like BBC America has exclusivity within the US for Dirk Gently since Netflix has it everywhere outside of the US. And I am a cord cutter so :sigh:

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

joepinetree posted:

I started to watch strike back based on the recommendations of people either in this thread or in the annual poll. I liked Banshee and Quarry so thought this could be similar. Noooooo.
There is essentially two types of scenes. Scenes that are like the average porn in everything except showing penetration (and you can tell right away which female characters are there to be naked at some point and which ones are there for the long run), and scenes where it is essentially 2 guys mowing down Africans, Arabs, or Eastern Europeans.

You're right, Strike back is awesome

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

joepinetree posted:

I started to watch strike back based on the recommendations of people either in this thread or in the annual poll. I liked Banshee and Quarry so thought this could be similar. Noooooo.
There is essentially two types of scenes. Scenes that are like the average porn in everything except showing penetration (and you can tell right away which female characters are there to be naked at some point and which ones are there for the long run), and scenes where it is essentially 2 guys mowing down Africans, Arabs, or Eastern Europeans.

You say that like it's a bad thing, buddy.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
Strike Back isn't a good show tbh, but it's watchable because of the two leads mostly

Banshee is the most superior action punchman/shootman show

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

Zzulu posted:

Banshee is the most superior action punchman/shootman show

Shame season 4 was so crap.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
Yeah I never watched S4. It got so much flak here on SA that I just never bothered. I heard they really cut the hell out of their budget for S4 so they couldn't really do a story they wanted.. it's sad to see such a good action show get hamstrung by production and concessions and an IDIOT AUDIENCE WHO DOESN'T WATCH IT SO IT GETS CANCELLED :mad:

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
it was still good, but it's a massive difference also because they had to switch location. Just didn't feel the same

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Season 4 at least wrapped everything up, but yeah it was the weakest of all the seasons. I'm still hoping for a Job/Sugar spinoff show.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side

STAC Goat posted:

I binged through the Expanse last week and it was ok. Its rare for me to say this but I actually thought it was probably two short. It felt like they spent a lot of time in the first and second act and then right as the third act stuff was getting underway and the full picture was coming into view the season seemed to end suddenly. Its like the show runners thought that point of the season was what happened to the missing girl/ship when I felt that was really more of a bridge into the real plot of what's on that ship and how this is all playing out..

Just finished it and totally get where you're coming from with this. Absolutely felt like it ended right at the beginning of the third act, which is only ever going to feel abrupt and unsatisfying... which makes me glad I watched it this week instead of when it aired.

Despite some issues, I still enjoyed it a lot and it far exceeded my expectations. If nothing else railgun through the head, and most of that episode actually, evoked something close to BSG levels of "holy poo poo!" for the first time in a while. It also made me miss BSG and go back and watch Exodus Part 2.

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 11:49 on Feb 3, 2017

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Search Party. Really enjoyed it. Feels like a mash up between Broad City, Stranger Things and Nancy Drew.

lifg
Dec 4, 2000
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Muldoon
DOLLHOUSE has been my show of choice lately. It's a high concept Joss Whedon show.

It hits some of the same notes as Westworld, just really not as good. I think a lot of that is Eliza Dushku. She was just right as a secondary character on Buffy, but Dollhouse has her playing multiple roles, and she's just not strong enough. (It's even harder when comparing her to Tatiana Maslany, who plays five different characters on every episode of Orphan Black.)

But there have been some great episodes scattered throughout the two seasons, mostly when they stick to their core concept: watching morally grey technicians rent out bodies of people who contracted themselves to be mindless slaves.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
The big thing I got out of that show is that Enver Gjokaj is a star.

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008

lifg posted:

It hits some of the same notes as Westworld, just really not as good. I think a lot of that is Eliza Dushku. She was just right as a secondary character on Buffy, but Dollhouse has her playing multiple roles, and she's just not strong enough. (It's even harder when comparing her to Tatiana Maslany, who plays five different characters on every episode of Orphan Black.)

Senerio posted:

The big thing I got out of that show is that Enver Gjokaj is a star.

Agreed and agreed. I watched it as it aired because I was a huge Buffy fan, and I remember thinking 1. it would just be so much better with a different main actress and 2. Enver Gjokaj needs to be in everything ever. I don't think I ever finished it.

Warning, the Patton Oswalt episode is absolutely crushing in retrospect.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
I enjoyed Dollhouse, overall, but it is one of Whedon's weaker shows.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I just plain didn't like Dollhouse. Gjokaj and Dichen Lachman were both really good but the premise of the show never seemed much more than an interesting idea that Whedon didn't really know what to do with. Maybe it would have been different if he had made it 10 years later when shorter, more experimental TV was such a norm for cable channels. But it just didn't work how it did play out.

Just binged Dark Matter and I enjoyed it. Its a pretty pulpy sci-fi spaceship show if you're into that but what I think its kind of unique about it is that walks a line between "____ of the week" and meta plot that I haven't really noticed in another show. Its basically driven primarily by the "meta plot" but it doesn't drag stuff out. If the crew wants to know about X they usually seek it out and address it within 1 or 2 episodes and that just gives way to them having to focus on Y. Its odd because there's no real season arcs or traditional narrative construction to it but the show keeps moving and things change up pretty dramatically on a regular basis. Its not great TV or anything but its character driven and it never slows down enough to get boring (except maybe right at the start of S2 where they introduce like 3-4 new characters all at once).

Gravy Jones posted:

Just finished it and totally get where you're coming from with this. Absolutely felt like it ended right at the beginning of the third act, which is only ever going to feel abrupt and unsatisfying... which makes me glad I watched it this week instead of when it aired.

Despite some issues, I still enjoyed it a lot and it far exceeded my expectations. If nothing else railgun through the head, and most of that episode actually, evoked something close to BSG levels of "holy poo poo!" for the first time in a while. It also made me miss BSG and go back and watch Exodus Part 2.

Yeah, I don't think it was bad or anything. It just had some serious plotting/pacing issues. But like you I only watched it in the last couple of weeks right before S2 started, so that worked out.

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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Santa Clarita Diet is pretty loving funny.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Solice Kirsk posted:

Santa Clarita Diet is pretty loving funny.

Confirmed, Drew Barrymore is my 41 year old jam.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Schitt's Creek has been getting a lot of play around here lately, and when we need a break we've been rewatching Bored to Death. I watched it while it was coming out but smoked too much weed at that time to be able to remember any of it now, so it's great to re-experience it. Ted Danson is hilarious whether or not you're sober.

qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.

joepinetree posted:

I started to watch strike back based on the recommendations of people either in this thread or in the annual poll. I liked Banshee and Quarry so thought this could be similar. Noooooo.
There is essentially two types of scenes. Scenes that are like the average porn in everything except showing penetration (and you can tell right away which female characters are there to be naked at some point and which ones are there for the long run), and scenes where it is essentially 2 guys mowing down Africans, Arabs, or Eastern Europeans.

You've got the show all wrong.

Every single female character gets naked eventually. They also mow down Asians.

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009

Solice Kirsk posted:

Santa Clarita Diet is pretty loving funny.

Just started it this morning. I need more of it as of 8 PM tonight.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

make's u think

Solice Kirsk posted:

Santa Clarita Diet is pretty loving funny.

The trailer looked dumb as gently caress to me-is the show any better?

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
Solid show. Drew Barrymore is on fire.

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames
Hopped onto the Black Mirror train a little late. I didn't realize the seasons were so short. I just finished season 1, which feels a bit rough in some spots, but I can see what they're trying to do. I'm enjoying it so far and I like that it provokes morality discussions (which I think is the point), though a lot of these situations are clearly hyperbole and satire. I'd like to see less exaggeration of society, because I think the future-tech morality plays stand on their own without a lot of the melodrama added to it, but to be fair I've only seen those first 3 episodes so far.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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sex swing from IKEA posted:

The trailer looked dumb as gently caress to me-is the show any better?

I thought it looked terrible as well, but after the first episode I was hooked. Finished the whole thing in one sitting. Everyone is in that show too. It really is a lot funnier than I was expecting.

Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

sticklefifer posted:

Hopped onto the Black Mirror train a little late. I didn't realize the seasons were so short. I just finished season 1, which feels a bit rough in some spots, but I can see what they're trying to do. I'm enjoying it so far and I like that it provokes morality discussions (which I think is the point), though a lot of these situations are clearly hyperbole and satire. I'd like to see less exaggeration of society, because I think the future-tech morality plays stand on their own without a lot of the melodrama added to it, but to be fair I've only seen those first 3 episodes so far.

Yeah, it's pretty good when it's filling that modern Twilight Zone role, but some of it's so loving over the top with the social "commentary" that it feels like it's mocking the whole human experience. There seems to be a particularly British phenomenon where shows cynically luxuriate in the pettiness and hypocrisy of their characters and sometimes it's just suffocating. I'm still thinking about the episode with the stationary bikes and the talent show, so it definitely got to me in a way that, say, the memory implant episode didn't, but even when something is genuinely compelling, there's a certain facile exaggeration to a lot of the dystopia that pulls me out of it. Like, not only is it hard to imagine why anyone would live like these people, but often these people are just acting like complete sacks of poo poo in ways that don't even seem connected to the circumstances of their premise.

I've only watched about half the episodes though (the first season, plus some third), so maybe I'm just missing some of the nuance. The San Junipero episode had some actually sympathetic characters and I really appreciated it. Each episode is like a movie unto itself, so I really can't watch more than one or two of them at a time and it's probably best to pace them out so you have plenty of time to think about them.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Oops

Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Feb 5, 2017

mystes
May 31, 2006

I've been watching The Missing. I'm like 60% of the way through season 2 and I think it's sort of terrible. It's so pointlessly gritty and complicated that it's almost like a parody of current trends in TV. Definitely going to keep watching it, though, so I guess it's working :shrug:

Esroc
May 31, 2010

Goku would be ashamed of you.
Despite enjoying it immensely I bowed out of Vampire Diaries around Season 5, but when I heard Season 8 would be the end I decided to catch back up with 6 and 7 so I could see it on its way out. Binged both seasons and man the show really started falling apart. While I still enjoyed them, Seasons 6 and 7 are just crammed to the gills with convenient coincidences just for the sake of moving the plot forward. This is especially egregious in Season 7 where literally every one of the multiple plot lines end up connected for absolutely no reason other than "we need to wrap this poo poo up".

Mystical artifacts randomly come into main characters possessions while random new characters show up that just so happen to need those random artifacts that just happen to be randomly in the hands of main characters and the random people are always randomly connected deeply to the main characters despite this deep connection nor the aforementioned random artifacts being with them having gently caress all to do with these new random characters showing up in the first place. And this exact same sequence of insane coincidences happens multiple times. It's like if your entire family all coincidentally ended up at the same small town in bumfuck nowhere at the exact same time with no prior communication and a stranger in that town also just happened to own a lost family heirloom of yours even though that heirloom was not the reason any of you decided to go there and none of you even knew it was a thing. Oh, and that stranger is also a relative who you didn't even know existed. And this exact same thing also happens to four other families at the exact same time. Because Magic, I guess?

Love the show, but it's definitely time to mercifully take it out behind the shed.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I binged Incorporated and I mostly enjoyed it. A good job building a world and compelling rationalizations for desperate people to do immoral things. It never really falls under the weight of its amoral protagonist I think because not only do they present those rationalizations but they do a good job showing the other side of it, the people he hurts, and the anger and guilt that creates. I enjoyed it. I have my concerns about extending the story but there are still some questions I have or things I'd like to see so I'm on board.

I'm trying to get away from the sci-fi since I seem to have been watching that exclusively lately and its really not my favorite. I've been trying to get into Black Sails but its just not hooking me. I've started and stopped 3 times now and am only 4 episodes or so through. Is it a "gets better as time goes on" kind of show or just not for me?

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
1st season is largely scene setting. Lot of characters to get moving around the board.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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STAC Goat posted:

I binged Incorporated and I mostly enjoyed it. A good job building a world and compelling rationalizations for desperate people to do immoral things. It never really falls under the weight of its amoral protagonist I think because not only do they present those rationalizations but they do a good job showing the other side of it, the people he hurts, and the anger and guilt that creates. I enjoyed it. I have my concerns about extending the story but there are still some questions I have or things I'd like to see so I'm on board.

I'm trying to get away from the sci-fi since I seem to have been watching that exclusively lately and its really not my favorite. I've been trying to get into Black Sails but its just not hooking me. I've started and stopped 3 times now and am only 4 episodes or so through. Is it a "gets better as time goes on" kind of show or just not for me?

Black Sails is pretty great. I almost stopped watching it during season 1, but the last 3 episodes were soooooo good that I just had to see where it was going. Season 2 was fantastic and season three was pretty good as well. It's in the final season now, but I haven't seen anything for it yet.

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Jan 13, 2008




The thing to keep in mind about Black Sails is that they only have the budget to blow their load at the beginning and ending of the season. So you have a lot of talking in the middle. It's still pretty awesome.

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