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What's the general consensus on The Magicians? I caught an episode, and it seems like someone really wanted to make an 'edgy' Harry Potter where casting spells is basically over-dramatic gloving.
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Baronash posted:What's the general consensus on The Magicians? I caught an episode, and it seems like someone really wanted to make an 'edgy' Harry Potter where casting spells is basically over-dramatic gloving. It's terrible but the cast is gorgeous and hilarious.
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Feb 8, 2017 16:54
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lelandjs posted:Counterpoint: Lost's ending was always going to alienate one side of the audience, the other half thought and still thinks that is was great. And they will always been wrong because it was hot trash. Baronash posted:What's the general consensus on The Magicians? I caught an episode, and it seems like someone really wanted to make an 'edgy' Harry Potter where casting spells is basically over-dramatic gloving. You pretty much got it. It's trashy but oddly enjoyable.
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Feb 8, 2017 16:56
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I watch the poo poo out of the Magicians. It's not great TV but it's pretty fun and I enjoy how much a dick Penny is. I like all the characters. Also you get to watch someone shotgun god semen to fight a demon, so there is that.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:00
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LOST ending rules and the only reason the opposite started getting taken as gospel is because Devin Faraci is loud and opinionated as gently caress
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Feb 8, 2017 16:59
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:APB Speaking of APB, didn't someone say the same thing earlier? quote:The way Kirk sees it, however, he wanted to play Reeves because of the guy’s similarities to a very different wealthy crime fighter. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/justin-kirk-apb-cop-drama-971132
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Feb 8, 2017 17:00
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Cart posted:Annual reminder that The Americans is the actual best show on TV that people would enjoy watching if they gave it a chance (sorry Rectify). I hate to be that guy again, but since there's so many ppl here raving about it.... I think the Americans is a punishing show that is humorless and ridiculously harrowing. It's not a show that I enjoyed that much and by the second season I was glad to leave it behind and watch something else.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:06
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I don't quite hate it that much but yeah I have absolutely no idea why The Americans is so acclaimed. It's so dull and aimless, and good performances can't overcome poor writing.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:20
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The show just gets so dull in season 2.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:22
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Counterpoint: it takes until like episode 7 of season 1 to stop being "mission of the week" and then starts to get really good. There's a bit of a lull in the back half of season 2, but the payoff is worth it. Edit: like, I came around to Mad Men eventually, but I find The Americans way more interesting and engaging.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:23
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Here's your Legion thread for tonight: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3809253&perpage=40 Feel like I could've done better on the thread title but I'm sure a more appropriate quote will come along soon.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:29
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Snak posted:Counterpoint: it takes until like episode 7 of season 1 to stop being "mission of the week" and then starts to get really good. There's a bit of a lull in the back half of season 2, but the payoff is worth it. Mad Men and the Americans have the same problem for what it's worth.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:31
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Escobarbarian posted:LOST ending rules and the only reason the opposite started getting taken as gospel is because Devin Faraci is loud and opinionated as gently caress Who? It's a bad episode because it's bad and exactly what everyone knew it would be but they swore up and down it wasn't.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:53
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IRQ posted:It's a bad episode because it's bad and exactly what everyone knew it would be but they swore up and down it wasn't. What do you me-OH GOD you're not one of those people who thinks the finale actually WAS that they were in purgatory the whole time are you?? If you're not I really don't get what you mean
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Feb 8, 2017 18:25
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IRQ posted:Who? The flash sideways were the show's version of afterlife/heaven. Could the flash sideways be read as purgatory? Sure. But what people (including myself, for the first three or so seasons) had thought was that the ISLAND itself was purgatory, which it was not. The events on the island really happened to the characters, and when they died they were taken to the flash sideways "universe", were they were given a chance to reunite with their loved ones from the island and atone for their sins. asecondduck fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Feb 8, 2017 18:29
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He knows he's just terrible.
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Feb 8, 2017 18:47
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Lost has really annoyingly loud blaring sad music signifying SADNESS and it was the most annoying in the finale. Add in all the slow motion shots of people crying and it just feels like manipulative garbage telling me I should be sad. gently caress off Damon Lindelof.
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Feb 8, 2017 18:50
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Mu Zeta posted:Lost has really annoyingly loud blaring sad music signifying SADNESS and it was the most annoying in the finale. Add in all the slow motion shots of people crying and it just feels like manipulative garbage telling me I should be sad. gently caress off Damon Lindelof. Deadpool had really annoying silly soundtack drops signifying RIDICULOUSNESS and it was the most annoying in the finale. Add in the slow motion shots of heroes doing awesome stuff and it just feels like manipulative garbage telling me I should be enjoying myself. gently caress off Ryan Reynolds. [Edit: all media is designed to be emotionally manipulative is the point I'm making here] asecondduck fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Feb 8, 2017 18:54
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That actually does mostly apply to Suicide Squad haha. But yeah LOST-wise seems like a fuckin weird complaint.
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Feb 8, 2017 19:01
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I like Lost, but the final season is damaged by some terrible choices. The flash "sideways" (which, in retrospect, is inaccurate, they're still just flashforwards) are kinda irrelevant and end up resembling a Christians Couple Weekend advertisement, in an utterly baffling choice. The show wraps up a number of character arcs in really terrible ways (Sun, Jin, Widmore) and the final confrontation feels pokey and small. But, yes, I still like the show -- despite its love of being cryptic over being concrete, despite its tendency to poorly characterize its tertiary characters, and despite some really melodramatic scoring -- because it's fun. It's shallow as gently caress some times, but it's fun.
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Feb 8, 2017 19:08
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lelandjs posted:Deadpool had really annoying silly soundtack drops signifying RIDICULOUSNESS and it was the most annoying in the finale. Add in the slow motion shots of heroes doing awesome stuff and it just feels like manipulative garbage telling me I should be enjoying myself. gently caress off Ryan Reynolds. I don't like Deadpool either but more because of the cringey edgey jokes. You can manipulate emotions without being annoying.
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Feb 8, 2017 19:25
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Escobarbarian posted:I don't quite hate it that much but yeah I have absolutely no idea why The Americans is so acclaimed. It's so dull and aimless, and good performances can't overcome poor writing. Dull and aimless? Even if you don't like it those are weird criticisms imo
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Feb 8, 2017 19:42
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precision posted:Dull and aimless? Even if you don't like it those are weird criticisms imo Did you watch season 2? I'm struggling to articulate it in any other way too.
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Feb 8, 2017 19:48
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Mu Zeta posted:I don't like Deadpool either but more because of the cringey edgey jokes. You can manipulate emotions without being annoying. I dislike most multicam shows with laugh tracks because it makes me feel awkward when I hear people laughing but I'm not laughing myself (looking at you, Big Bang Theory). Laugh tracks aren't always bad, though (IT Crowd, HIMYM). Lost's finale has never felt overly manipulative to me, personally, because whenever I rewatch the show by the time the finale comes around I'm completely involved with the characters and their problems again. The fact that the show allows--heck, encourages--a full release of grief upon the ending isn't actually a bad thing. But yeah, if you don't care as deeply about the characters, and instead cared more about the mysteries and conspiracies, then yeah, I guess the finale will ring emotionally false for you because you weren't given the release you wanted. That's why I said that the finale works for roughly half of Lost viewers earlier. The half that cared about the characters got an ending they wanted, while the people who wanted grand, sweeping explanations out of the show were left wanting. I would argue that, taken as a whole, Lost posits that the grander events in our lives don't matter--what really matters is who you are and treat those around you--and that's why they chose the ending they went with. That said this post has gone on too long already and also I'm sure X-O is looking for an excuse to ban Lost finale chat from the thread again so I should probably shut up.
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Feb 8, 2017 19:49
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Travelers renewed, The OA renewed. I'm happy about both of these things, tbh.
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Feb 8, 2017 20:24
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Same, good on them both.
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Feb 8, 2017 20:25
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lelandjs posted:. With the fear of resurrecting decade old arguments, I don't think this is entirely fair. Lost lost people because it so leaned into the mystery and conspiracy angle, which really when you think of can never really have that much of a satisfying ending, and people bought into the premise that there would be a satisfactory ending, as implied by the show and explicitly stated by the creators during its run. That's the cause of the bad taste re the show and its lowered ranking on shows people talk about a decade or so after its finale, IMO. Don't have a personal dog in this hunt, I'd already peaced out with the hatch reveal.
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Feb 8, 2017 20:34
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Anyone actively still watching LOST wanting a proper answer to all the mysteries by the end of season 6 deserved to be disappointed. Somewhere around season 3 I was just like "gently caress it it's magic ok whatever" and stopped looking for answers and it got a lot better.
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Feb 8, 2017 20:38
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Escobarbarian posted:LOST ending rules and the only reason the opposite started getting taken as gospel is because Devin Faraci is loud and opinionated as gently caress Sure, if you ignore A) The opinions of the majority of people who don't know who the gently caress Devin Faraci is, and B) That the whole final season is largely just a waste of time. And I even liked the finale.
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Feb 8, 2017 21:35
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Just announced:quote:Castlevania Season 1, Part 1 Coming to Netflix in 2017 
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Feb 8, 2017 21:38
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If anything the problem with LOST was that it answered too much. For example, the episode with Richard's back story was cool but also completely unnecessary.
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Feb 8, 2017 21:41
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DrVenkman posted:Sure, if you ignore A) The opinions of the majority of people who don't know who the gently caress Devin Faraci is, and B) That the whole final season is largely just a waste of time. And I even liked the finale. But the finale is specifically the thing people single out as being awful and terrible etc. I don't even really disagree about season 6 as a whole, it's almost def the weakest overall, but that's not what we're talking about really.
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Feb 8, 2017 21:45
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Lost just became a mess long before the finale. It had raised so many questions with no clear or satisfying answers that that consumed it, and then it became about giving over explanations to those answers that could never be as interesting as the stuff fans had spent years dreaming up (and even if it was, the fans would just say they called it years ago). It just became this muddled mess of using magic to justify whatever thing they wanted to do and the narrative completely fell apart. But that's not on the finale. Lost was a mess way before then. So if you were super into the final season then you were probably good with it and liked how the finale tied it up and if you hated the final season then the finale was just the inevitable lovely ending for that. It was two different shows for two different audiences, and the problem was just that a bunch of people who were into the first couple of season (myself included) never really accepted that their show had become someone else's show. We can criticize the direction the show took but in complaining about the finale we're really just mad at ourselves for sticking around and hoping it would turn around. Now BSG? That's just a lovely finale twist. 
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Feb 8, 2017 21:49
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STAC Goat posted:Lost just became a mess long before the finale. It had raised so many questions with no clear or satisfying answers that that consumed it, and then it became about giving over explanations to those answers that could never be as interesting as the stuff fans had spent years dreaming up (and even if it was, the fans would just say they called it years ago). It just became this muddled mess of using magic to justify whatever thing they wanted to do and the narrative completely fell apart. Agreeing with all of this post right here.
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Feb 8, 2017 21:53
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I quit Quantico after the mid season 1 break. Did I make the right decision?
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Feb 8, 2017 21:55
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Eventually.
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Feb 8, 2017 21:57
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Escobarbarian posted:I don't quite hate it that much but yeah I have absolutely no idea why The Americans is so acclaimed. It's so dull and aimless, and good performances can't overcome poor writing.
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Feb 8, 2017 22:04
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less laughter posted:Just announced: What a horrible night to have a slow bandwidth? I'm sure something better can be workshopped before it arrives.
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Feb 8, 2017 22:28
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less laughter posted:Just announced: This might be the animated one that Adi Shankar -- producer of Dredd and that gritty Power/Rangers short from a year or so back -- was putting together with Frederator Studios. If that's the case, hold on to your butts because Shankar's a drat hombre.
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Like.....one of those bad hombres?
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