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Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

GDT's movies aren't that great. I enjoy Pacific Rim and Pan's Labyrinth but they are kind of forgettable. Also he's obsessed with swords.

e: yeah I forgot he did Devil's Backbone. I loathed the villain so much I don't think I can ever watch it again.

Mu Zeta has a new favorite as of 18:52 on Feb 8, 2017

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Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
The Devil's Backbone is a excellent movie. Really beautiful, well-acted and a lovely script. One of my favorite films.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Pan's Labyrinth and Devil's Backbone are both excellent. Haven't seen any of his other movies, but Hobbit is a children's fairy tale, albeit relatively "mature", so I think based on those two xamples it would have been straight up his alley.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

GDT's best work is by far on Always Sunny.

Also Expanse is a great example of being faithful to the source and it turning out really good. It's a rare case though where the book writers are also heavily involved in the show, so any changes are all stuff they said they'd have changed if they had the chance to re-write anyways.

The starship troopers movie is also way better than the book because it becomes an amazing and hilarious parody.

Also my unpopular opinion is that Dune is really great and the "more faithful" miniseries feels cheap and lovely despite being more true to the books. Really interested how the now 3rd attempt at putting Dune to film is going to go.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I'm upset because I like that Denis director working on original stuff like Sicario and Prisoners. Now he's in franchise hell.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Baronjutter posted:

. Really interested how the now 3rd attempt at putting Dune to film is going to go.

It will be a generic sci fi movie stripped of all the imagination and "politically problematic" stuff that makes Dune stand out, because no major studio would pay for a truthful version of the book.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!

Das Boo posted:

Dick Smith

Ah, yes, noted Oglaf dwarven engineer

free basket of chips
Sep 7, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Coredump posted:

By default nature has the switch flipped to "on" for allowing us to procreate. The next step of society is we need to flip that switch to off. We should all be sterilized and BOTH parties need to wear a patch to enable conception. No tests to pass to get the patch, no fee, put the patch in vending machines on the street corner for all I care. But both parties need to be wearing the patch for a couple days at least before conception to be possible. Or take a pill, or get a shot. I don't care. But conscious and deliberate action to enable procreation instead of prevent is what I'm saying. Cut down on these "oops" babies.

This is why I feel that, given the average gay couple and average straight couple, the gay couple will probably be better parents. They can't have kids by accident

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





Das Boo posted:

Speaking of adaptations, I thought The Exorcist was a really neat example of translation. Blatty wrote both the book and the screenplay with entire segments of dialogue are stripped straight from the book and placed on the screen. They're nearly identical and both work beautifully, but somehow in completely different ways. While the adaptation is a straight up horror movie, the book is almost entirely about Karras' inner struggle with his faith and uses the event to explore its rationalization through contemporary (at the time) psychology. Karras is never fully convinced of her possession and scrutinizes how Regan's actions can be explained using logic rather than faith. I love both takes.

Another one that translated really well was The Haunting. The 1963 adaptation also strips entire conversations from the book, but changes the character of Grace(for the better, IMO). That's probably one of the closest adaptations I've seen that keeps the book's spirit fully intact.

Yeah a lot of people don't get why adaptations of any kind to film of are pretty difficult to pull off in being both good and faithful. The Shining by Kurick similarly took quite a few liberties in its film presentation with, for example, a major switch from the book's focus of a sympathetic Jack's inner battle with substance abuse and other personal demons to the film's focus on a more traditional psychological horror with a definite villain. Making Wendy and Danny meeker characters and actually killing off Dick are things that raise tension in a way suitable for a quick 2 hour film over the building techniques a novel can use since novels can take all the pages it needs to establish well-rounded characters and challenging terrors. Stephen King was dissatisfied with some of these changes and some years back worked on a more faithful adaptation which kinda sucked even without comparing it to the classic film.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
I completely agree with Kubrick's take on Wendy. The wife of an abusive alcoholic sells a lot better in his version than as the "pretty blonde cheerleader without a care in the world" King pegged her as.
I know that description's a direct quote from somewhere, but I can't remember where. It always bugged me.

Blue Star
Feb 18, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
I think it'd be cool to be Jewish. I kinda wish I was. :(

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
As someone who has never been religious, the only cool looking thing about being religious is being part of a group of people with some cool traditions or costumes.

If you like what they get up to then more power to you I guess, have fun getting your foreskin cut off in adulthood of you're a guy though

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

starkebn posted:

As someone who has never been religious, the only cool looking thing about being religious is being part of a group of people with some cool traditions or costumes.

If you like what they get up to then more power to you I guess, have fun getting your foreskin cut off in adulthood of you're a guy though

That's only if you're Middle-Eastern, Mediterranean, or American. White religious people don't get bits of theirselves chopped off.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


Some anime is good and fun to watch.

Also I don't like pickles.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I don't see the big deal about Stranger Things. I have no nostalgia for 80s and Winona Ryder did nothing special in the role. It could have been done to the same quality by anybody.

Ramagamma
Feb 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Sociopastry posted:

Some anime is good and fun to watch.

Cowboy Bebop is pretty good, the first 5 or 6 episodes of Death Note were alright, Ghost in the Shell was ok, every single Studio Ghibli film that isn't Spirited Away is pretty boring, every other anime I've ever seen is astonishingly bad, like mind numbingly, frenzy inducingly, makes me worry about people who seek out that kind of entertainment terrible.

Edit: Guyver was alright too I suppose.

Like I know fan-bases are largely weirdoes but to me it seems like the weirdness comes first with the anime lovers and then they seek out the anime because they know it's weird and they feel a desperate need to embrace the weirdness, it's loving bizzare.

Ramagamma has a new favorite as of 23:30 on Feb 8, 2017

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

RE: Anime I liked Ulysses 31 when I was 7 or 8? The theme song was pretty darn great!

e: I mean gently caress!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ4c1X5ene8

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
Monster is very good and I wish I was able to get my hands on the boxset. Paranoia Agent is excellent and I really like Samurai Champloo. :allears:
gently caress, Satoshi Kon in general just great to watch.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Das Boo posted:

Monster is very good and I wish I was able to get my hands on the boxset. Paranoia Agent is excellent and I really like Samurai Champloo. :allears:
gently caress, Satoshi Kon in general just great to watch.

I bought a DVD of Paranoia Agent for 0.30€ when Kodin Ykkönen in Länsikeskus was closing but I still haven't watched it.

Aramek
Dec 22, 2007

Cutest tumor in all of Oncology!
The only three good anime are One Piece, Lupin, and Scooby-Doo.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Aramek posted:

The only three good anime are One Piece, Lupin, and Scooby-Doo.

Hmm what about Inspector Gadget?

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...

Jerry Cotton posted:

Hmm what about Inspector Gadget?

The show was bad but the live action adaptation was good

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Olive Garden tonight! posted:

The show was bad but the live action adaptation was good

Maxwell Smart did the voice acting though.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

Jerry Cotton posted:

I bought a DVD of Paranoia Agent for 0.30€ when Kodin Ykkönen in Länsikeskus was closing but I still haven't watched it.

I rewatched it just last year and I think it holds up really well. Double Lips and Happy Family Planning are my favorite episodes, the latter being way closer to Twilight Zone tonally than Black Mirror.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Duck Tales and Gummy Bears are the best animus of all time.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Das Boo posted:

I rewatched it just last year and I think it holds up really well. Double Lips and Happy Family Planning are my favorite episodes, the latter being way closer to Twilight Zone tonally than Black Mirror.

Is it as good as

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1c1G24GWDg

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

steinrokkan posted:

Duck Tales and Gummy Bears are the best animus of all time.

I think this opinion isn't unpopular but personally, I'd say yes and no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJglAxMaJeQ

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

The Sherlock Holmes episodes of Bravestarr were pretty good and it's a shame the spin-off never came to be.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Jerry Cotton posted:

I think this opinion isn't unpopular but personally, I'd say yes and no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJglAxMaJeQ

ill fight u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIZIE6gv1UY

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...

Jerry Cotton posted:

Maxwell Smart did the voice acting though.

Don Adams can't compete with the theatrical stylings of Matthew Broderick/French Stewart

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86B0_lDT50

Olive Garden tonight! posted:

Don Adams can't compete with the theatrical stylings of Matthew Broderick/French Stewart

I think that might be actually in IRL life an unpopular onion.

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...

Jerry Cotton posted:

unpopular onion.

No editing this

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KR2ove20a0

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


I love sailor moon, unironically. grew up watching it as a kid, loved the reboot. good poo poo.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

SAAAW BAAAAWSSS.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
My unpopular opinion is that being the kind of "fan" of anything to the extent most nerds are is hosed up. My dad was like that with a sports team for a long time and it's just dumb as poo poo. I enjoy a whole bunch of stuff, mostly while doing it or watching it, but when pop culture consumes your identity it's just over the top.

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





an unusually high number of anime opinions i agree with itt

bean_shadow
Sep 27, 2005

If men had uteruses they'd be called duderuses.

sassassin posted:

Tom Bombadil was missing from The Lord of the Rings films, and so were the ideas about nature, power, love, isolation and inevitable decay that his presence introduced to rest of the narrative.

LoTR is terrible, the books anyhow. Just when you think something will happen, they decide to stop their adventure in order to eat their seventh breakfast or whatever. They take out their silverware and then it's described who's father's, father's, father's, father's made it, whole timelines for foods and objects, and then they break out in twenty different songs before packing up and continuing. I'm hyperbolizing, of course, but not by much. My friend told me the second half of the second book and the first half of the third is terrible. So why do people put up with it? Obviously I don't "get it". I'm fine with that.

Das Boo posted:

Speaking of adaptations, I thought The Exorcist was a really neat example of translation. Blatty wrote both the book and the screenplay with entire segments of dialogue are stripped straight from the book and placed on the screen. They're nearly identical and both work beautifully, but somehow in completely different ways. While the adaptation is a straight up horror movie, the book is almost entirely about Karras' inner struggle with his faith and uses the event to explore its rationalization through contemporary (at the time) psychology. Karras is never fully convinced of her possession and scrutinizes how Regan's actions can be explained using logic rather than faith. I love both takes.

Another one that translated really well was The Haunting. The 1963 adaptation also strips entire conversations from the book, but changes the character of Grace(for the better, IMO). That's probably one of the closest adaptations I've seen that keeps the book's spirit fully intact.


I will say The Godfather the movie is vastly superior to the book, even though I like the book but that's not an unpopular opinion. There's a whole plot-line where Lucy fucks Sony because her vagina is too big and his dick is the only one to fit neatly. So she goes to one of the Corleone's casinos in Vegas and meets a plastic surgeon who fixes her up. I'm glad they left that out of the movie.

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Grandmother of Five
May 9, 2008


I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

bean_shadow posted:

LoTR is terrible, the books anyhow. Just when you think something will happen, they decide to stop their adventure in order to eat their seventh breakfast or whatever. They take out their silverware and then it's described who's father's, father's, father's, father's made it, whole timelines for foods and objects, and then they break out in twenty different songs before packing up and continuing. I'm hyperbolizing, of course, but not by much. My friend told me the second half of the second book and the first half of the third is terrible. So why do people put up with it? Obviously I don't "get it". I'm fine with that.

I didn't like it either. If you're not really into "world building", then you simply wont like it, I think. Great works of literature transcends genre, I think, and LORT really doesn't. It exemplifies fantasy, for better or worse, which means for worse if you're not specifically into fantasy.

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