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Ball was loving terrible in that first half. Lack of speed is really noticeable. Holiday came in and was able to immediately split Oregon's half press for easy looks. e: now it's the second half and he's getting put in jail by lovely white backup PGs. really don't see it with this guy. Looked downright bad in the two games I've seen him play against teams with equal or greater athleticism. e2: pretty great at the end here though! straight up brolic fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Feb 10, 2017 |
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straight up brolic posted:Ball was loving terrible in that first half. Lack of speed is really noticeable. Holiday came in and was able to immediately split Oregon's half press for easy looks. Yeah seriously I mentioned before that I thought his shooting form was horrible and was told that it was just one game, but he can't do anything against Oregon. He's a good rebounder but so far his only offensive game seems to be from two janky rear end 3's that somehow went in.
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Feb 10, 2017 05:33
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And of course he nails a deep three to put a dagger in the Ducks. This game is amazing. College Basketball is so good this year holy gently caress
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Feb 10, 2017 05:53
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I mean his shooting form is bad but he hits a decent clip so no shooting coach is going to want to rebuild it from scratch
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Declan MacManus posted:I mean his shooting form is bad but he hits a decent clip so no shooting coach is going to want to rebuild it from scratch
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straight up brolic posted:Ball was loving terrible in that first half. Lack of speed is really noticeable. Holiday came in and was able to immediately split Oregon's half press for easy looks. Lol
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Feb 10, 2017 07:41
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I can't wait for Grayson Allen to be drafted by the Celtics in the 2nd round, flair out in 2 years and then spend the rest of his life playing in China.
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pleased that Ball showed what he could do at the end there. Wedge rebounding with him is going to be very valuable. Pretty unreal in transition and with outlets. He needs his shot to translate at 35-40%+ at the next level to be a good half court player.
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oh my god The Ringer just ran a draft big board column where they couldn't recognize man from zone re: Fultz defense
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Paul Zuvella posted:I can't wait for Grayson Allen to be drafted by the Celtics in the 2nd round, flair out in 2 years and then spend the rest of his life playing in China. And then he'll have a teary reunion with his actual dad, Ted Cruz
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straight up brolic posted:oh my god The Ringer just ran a draft big board column where they couldn't recognize man from zone re: Fultz defense Was it Tjarks? He legit might be the dumbest person covering the draft for a relatively high profile outlet.
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MourningView posted:Was it Tjarks? He legit might be the dumbest person covering the draft for a relatively high profile outlet.
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I liked O'Connor as Lowe Lite but he's been infected with the Simmons virus
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MCW plays like many other dumb idiots who went to Syracuse (Carmelo Anthony, Dion Waiters, some others who aren't good enough to show off how bad they are) his problem isn't just his shot
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Kevin O'Connor seems alright generally, but Tjarks is amazingly bad. Like, Bill Simmons is better to listen to about basketball than him because he is just as wrong but doesn't dress it up like he's all informed and smart.
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Since it looks like the Lakers may end up having a coinflip chance of keeping their pick (although their schedule starts to get pretty easy as this month goes on), I really have had a lot to think about as far as their drafting goes. And I really am starting to think Ball might not be the best fit for them. But man they're going to be under so much pressure to take him.
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MourningView posted:Was it Tjarks? He legit might be the dumbest person covering the draft for a relatively high profile outlet. I tried to listen to a Tjarks/O'Connor podcast once and had to delete the entire channel after five minutes. It was amazingly bad. Their voices did not help either.
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The whole ringer basketball staff is funny. I wish they'd get some money or affiliation with some media thing so that half of their writers didn't have to do double duty at si content farms. I miss grantland. Fansided's the stepback (good luck navigating there on your phone) http://fansided.com/nba/the-step-back/ has been surprisingly good, they have a writer who just writes about draft prospects and even if he isn't the ultra scout he does good work. If you're bored, Mega Leks is playing at 3pm eastern today. Three of their players will probably be in the second round, Vlatko Cancar, Kashtja Mushidi, and Alpha Kaba They're the draft prospect showoff club owned by an agent and they play a style and level of competition that makes their players look better than they are, but it's nice to be able to watch a bunch of euro prospects in a team format http://www.vipbox.bz/basketball If anyone knows where to get better international basketball streams, I'd appreciate it Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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I feel like CBS mock drafts should be saved for posterity, because the dude really tries to do his own thing and everyone makes fun of him (possibly for good reason) but I never remember to go back and see who's more accurate, him or the consensus. My notes in brackets so I can look stupid later if he's right. It's also in February which is when it's probably okay to make a bad mock but I don't have much better to do this exact second but mock his. http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2017-nba-mock-draft-2-0-lakers-get-fsus-isaac-at-no-2-knicks-land-uks-monk/ 1. Celtics - Fultz [So far so good] 2. Lakers - Issac [That turned quick] 3. 76ers - Ball 4. Suns - Tatum [Huh?] 5. Magic - Markkanen [The Magic really test their ability to try and force a player against logic to be an SF) 6. Timberwolves - Robert Williams [Well, he's a project but he could be great] 7. Pelicans - Dennis Smith [Well, I guess he remains the third PG drafted . . Pelicans must want to have the league's smallest backcourt] 8. Mavs - Frank ["Andre"] Ntilikina 9. Kings - Josh Jackson [Listen even if Josh Jackson fell to 9 are we really supposing the Kings make a good draft pick???] 10. Knicks - Monk [What if you teamed Melo up with someone who had his prime athleticism, but didn't use it much and also was a lot shorter.] 11. Bucks - Fox [The article calls him a defensive stopper . . . maybe the league will outlaw screens during the offseason] 12. Nuggets - Tyler Lydon [Not a very "Nuggets" pick but otherwise fine I guess] 13. Heat - Justin Patton [Wouldn't have a problem with this if the writer didn't suggest this was to replace Whiteside] 14. Hornets - Alonzo Trier [gently caress you article for making me have to say something negative about Allonzo Trier but him at 14 is kind of a reach] 15. Trail Blazers - Jonothan Motley [wha] 16. Bulls - Josh Hart 17. Pistons - TJ Leaf [Anywhere out of the lottery is fine for me for him] 18. Pacers - Justin Jackson 19. Thunder - Miles Bridge [I feel like this is someone someone would take a chance on a little earlier] 20. Hawks - Caleb Swanigan [I don't know who this is] 21. Raptors - Frank Mason [Also not in the top 50 of prospects but I do like him as a player] 22. Wizards - Isaiah Hartenstein [No se] 23. Raptors - Mikal Bridges [some joke about someone named Bridge being paired with a Mason] 24. Jazz - Ivan Rabb [I definitely don't think someone will let him get this low without rolling the dice on him] 25. Nuggets - Ethan Happ [Might make more sense after Wisconsin's annual "beat better teams than them in the playoffs through crawl ball until they run into a team with an offense, but also, not a very "Nuggets" pick] 26. Nets - Zach Collins [Haven't seen him. It's actually pretty hard to watch Gonzaga basketball even with my cable package] 27. Rockets - Tacko Fall [he spells his name like The Adventure Zone] 28. Spurs - Thomas Bryant [The Spurs for some reason decide to select the Least Spursish player in the draft] 29. Trail Blazers - Donovan Mitchell [His game's been sitting on my DVR for two weeks now] 30. Jazz - Harry Giles [I actually think this drop is plausible]. Rick fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Feb 14, 2017 |
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All I want out of this draft is for the Mavs to draft the best big man left when it's time to make the pick. (and for that player to be not bad.)
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Like literally what is the point of Harry Giles. Does anyone think he's going to have a career?
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There are two scenarios that would make me an extremely happy Sixers fan in this draft. 1. Drafting Fultz 2. Getting the Lakers pick and our own within the range to get Isaac and Ntilikina. I don't ask for much
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Remember when Harry Giles was a bonafide lottery pick
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Paul Zuvella posted:Like literally what is the point of Harry Giles. Does anyone think he's going to have a career? Well, he was supposed to be the next generational talent when he had at least one healthy knee. It is within the realm of possibility that he regains some athleticism, and he really wouldn't need to get back all that much to be a monster again.
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Rick posted:I feel like CBS mock drafts should be saved for posterity, because the dude really tries to do his own thing and everyone makes fun of him (possibly for good reason) but I never remember to go back and see who's more accurate, him or the consensus. My notes in brackets so I can look stupid later if he's right. It's also in February which is when it's probably okay to make a bad mock but I don't have much better to do this exact second but mock his. Paul Zuvella posted:Like literally what is the point of Harry Giles. Does anyone think he's going to have a career?
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quote:Caleb Swanigan [I don't know who this is] A double double machine, 21 so far this year and a pair of 20/20 games. Sophomore for Purdue, but he reclassified in HS so he should have been a freshman this year. Good shooting touch, hits almost 50% of his 3s and 80% of his FTs. Downsides is he is not a great defender and not the best athlete. Also he turns the ball over a ton. If he were around 10-15 years ago he'd be David West with a better shooting touch. In today's game I don't know where he plays. He's too small to be a 5, too slow to be a 3 or 4.
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Who the gently caress is Justin Jackson?
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pubic works project posted:Who the gently caress is Justin Jackson? I dunno, he wasn't top 30 USA when I did my list last month but he is this month so I have a game scheduled for him. He's currently at USA rank 26, but he has jumped like 20 spots forward in ranking in one month, so I guess it's probable he could go to 18. PotatoJudge posted:A double double machine, 21 so far this year and a pair of 20/20 games. Sophomore for Purdue, but he reclassified in HS so he should have been a freshman this year. Good shooting touch, hits almost 50% of his 3s and 80% of his FTs. Downsides is he is not a great defender and not the best athlete. Also he turns the ball over a ton. Interesting. I feel like I have a Purdue game somewhere on my list so I'll keep an eye out.
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pubic works project posted:Who the gently caress is Justin Jackson? Wing for UNC. He was a top 5-10 guy coming out of high school, but then wasn't very good his first two years. He's shooting like 10% better from 3 this year and having a really good season. I am skeptical MourningView fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Feb 14, 2017 |
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MourningView posted:Wing for UNC. He was a top 5-10 guy coming out of high school, but then wasn't very good his first two years. He's shooting like 10% from 3 this year and having a really good season. I am skeptical Also needed to put on 15-20 lbs last time I checked.
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Also needed to put on 15-20 lbs last time I checked. It's so rare that a prospect doesn't need that much extra weight that I just assume they all need it, unless otherwise noted.
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Justin Jackson is on the McAdoo program. Tank your stock then revitalize it as an upperclassman
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straight up brolic posted:Justin Jackson is on the McAdoo program. Tank your stock then revitalize it as an upperclassman McAdoo was able to revitalize his stock all the way back up to "literally not even drafted" it was very impressive
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MourningView posted:McAdoo was able to revitalize his stock all the way back up to "literally not even drafted" it was very impressive
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MourningView posted:Wing for UNC. He was a top 5-10 guy coming out of high school, but then wasn't very good his first two years. He's shooting like 10% better from 3 this year and having a really good season. I am skeptical Yeah that's a hard pass please, Mr. Larry Legend. Thanks in advance
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