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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

Alterian posted:

We moved from a house to an apartment about half a year ago. Part of the apartment is over another person's, but most of it is over garages. Recently Jasper as decided he wants to run and jump all the time around the apartment and we've been trying to get him to stop so we don't disturb the people below us. This morning he was doing it again and I was trying to explain to him someone lives down there. Its rude to jump because its their ceiling, etc etc. Then he asked me: "Does Batman live down there?"
It is your duty and obligation as a father to answer yes.

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Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

It is your duty and obligation as a father to answer yes.

Mother, but yes. I couldn't resist saying that batman did indeed live below us.

Tonight while I was helping him get ready for bed, I was whistling. He looked at me and said "Mommy! Shh! We can't bother Batman!"

Hey, if it gets him to stop jumping around his room.

VorpalBunny
May 1, 2009

Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog
As I was driving my kids to the dentist today, my oldest (6) asked if adults see the doctor too. I said yes, though because we spend so much time driving kids around and worrying about their health and upbringing, we haven't seen a proper doctor or dentist in years. He told me "Well then you should stop worrying about us, mama!" :)

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

Alterian posted:

Mother, but yes. I couldn't resist saying that batman did indeed live below us.

Tonight while I was helping him get ready for bed, I was whistling. He looked at me and said "Mommy! Shh! We can't bother Batman!"

Hey, if it gets him to stop jumping around his room.

Alternatively you could find him something he can jump on like a bed or a yoga ball or a trampoline, or take him to one of those gymnastics places that are basically all trampolines (trampoline park)?

notwithoutmyanus fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Feb 8, 2017

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

He goes to gymnastics twice a week and we go swimming at least once. When the weather is nice we go to a playground as much as we can. He's just a very energetic kid who can't sit still, but he's 4. He should start to be able to understand that at home we don't jump up and down through the entire house and we use inside voices.

topenga
Jul 1, 2003

AA is for Quitters posted:

So my 7 mo old has discovered rolling is an effective means of locomotion this morning. The days of setting him down on a blanket and getting housework done while he plays are over. Poor guy is also covered in rugburn cause his dad set him down to play in just a diaper. And then he proceeded to roll all across the very short nap, rough carpet.

Oooh! Wait until you see him roll around a corner! Babies are amazing!

Dr Jankenstein
Aug 6, 2009

Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.

topenga posted:

Oooh! Wait until you see him roll around a corner! Babies are amazing!

This kid.

So he's had essentially an IEP (a 504, same thing) since two months since he doesn't technically count as preemie (37+3. Went into labor at 36+4, but it was 4th of July weekend and I wasn't enough in labor) and thus has been a little behind on milestones.

I was getting concerned cause I've never heard him babble consonants. Until tonight.

He just woke up, and has spent the last half hour having quite the conversation with Paddington bear. I guess he just doesn't like doing it with people.

Peas and Rice
Jul 14, 2004

Honor and profit.
So sleep training really does work and we shouldn't give up after 48 hours, right? Right??

Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

Peas and Rice posted:

So sleep training really does work and we shouldn't give up after 48 hours, right? Right??

It's just a phase, repeat after me, it's just a phase.

Hi_Bears
Mar 6, 2012

Peas and Rice posted:

So sleep training really does work and we shouldn't give up after 48 hours, right? Right??

What kind of sleep training and how old is your child?

Sleep training worked beautifully for us at 5 months (cry it out with timed checks) and legitimately changed our lives. 6 months later, illness/teething made him regress so we sleep trained again. It was definitely harder when he was older - he would stand in his crib and bang on the rails while wailing at full volume. We just did cry it out this time with no checks because seeing us made it worse. But again, it was life changing. Hang it there - it works for almost all children and is so worthwhile.

Peas and Rice
Jul 14, 2004

Honor and profit.

Hi_Bears posted:

What kind of sleep training and how old is your child?

He's 6 and a half months. He's always needed a swaddle because he tends to windmill his arms a lot and wake himself up, and he had super bad reflux, so he's been in a swing in our room. We're moving to crib / no swaddle all at once, using the "let him cry for 3-5 minutes" method.

He will go down OK about half the time when we put him in the crib sleepy, but only seems to last for one half-hour sleep cycle for naps. Last night he actually managed to sleep for a little longer than normal, but the 3-6am window was nothing but short bursts of sleep.

I know we'll get there but ughhhh.

Eponymous Bosch
Aug 11, 2010
Is there any difference between the Medela Pump In Style double electric pump and the Spectra S2? My Ameda Purely Yours is dying and I have to bite the bullet and purchase a new pump. Baby is 8 months old and takes 15oz of breastmilk a day at daycare, so I can't do a manual pump and keep up at work. Insurance will only cover one pump per pregnancy too. Agh.

Hi_Bears
Mar 6, 2012

Peas and Rice posted:

He's 6 and a half months. He's always needed a swaddle because he tends to windmill his arms a lot and wake himself up, and he had super bad reflux, so he's been in a swing in our room. We're moving to crib / no swaddle all at once, using the "let him cry for 3-5 minutes" method.

He will go down OK about half the time when we put him in the crib sleepy, but only seems to last for one half-hour sleep cycle for naps. Last night he actually managed to sleep for a little longer than normal, but the 3-6am window was nothing but short bursts of sleep.

I know we'll get there but ughhhh.

I've heard great things about the zipadee zip as a transitional sleep sack for babies who loved swaddling. You can also try rustling him before his sleep cycle ends so as to reset the cycle before he wakes. Gently touch him enough that he stirs but not enough to wake him up. Good luck!

nyerf
Feb 12, 2010

An elephant never forgets...TO KILL!
I have a Spectra S1 which I tend to recommend over the S2 just for the convenience of not worrying about a power outlet. Apart from that just looking at the specs the Medela and the Spectra look very similar--they call the letdown mode on the Spectra 'feather' mode. It's just a button you press to turn the frequency up to 70(I assume the numbers are sucks/minute) You can vary the suction strength on either mode but on feather mode it only goes up to 5, on the normal varying frequency suction mode (goes from 38 to 54 in steps of 4) you can dial it up to 10. No preprogrammed programs though, you just have to manually switch it up if you feel like it.

It'd be interesting to test run both and see if one brand dials up the suction harder than the other, I found early on in my pumping I couldn't stand anything beyond a 6/7 on my S1, and now I need a 10 + breast compressions to get out my usual 3oz in 6 minutes. Spectra's customer service regarding warranty repairs here in Australia have been beyond excellent. Deliver to your door service within a business day even across mainland/Tas, and loaner pump while they fix yours if you have any problems.

From youtube videos I think the Medela sounds a bit different, and it doesn't seem to have any way to change the frequency of sucks/minute when you're in expressing mode. Also doesn't seem to have a built in LED light which could be handy if you're pumping in dim conditions (overnight plane/car/bus/train, bed). Spectra's pump housing is somewhat bigger though. They're probably much of a muchness really--if there's more than $100 difference between the two I'd buy the cheaper one personally, otherwise I'd probably prefer my S1.

sheri
Dec 30, 2002

Eponymous Bosch posted:

Is there any difference between the Medela Pump In Style double electric pump and the Spectra S2? My Ameda Purely Yours is dying and I have to bite the bullet and purchase a new pump. Baby is 8 months old and takes 15oz of breastmilk a day at daycare, so I can't do a manual pump and keep up at work. Insurance will only cover one pump per pregnancy too. Agh.

Do you have a hospital near you that will let you rent a pump for a few months?

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
How the hell do I get my two year old to stop picking off his scabs. I think his injuries over the last several weeks have actually gotten WORSE due to his constant picking and I dont have any idea what to do.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009
Long sleeved shirts and long pants, glyph. You're not going to be able to get them to stop.

Also sleep training kids when they are too young is explicitly warned against, which is a year or 6 months don't recall exacts). Don't imagine that just because you want your kid to sleep that it means they will. In direct contrast to bears, every kid is different and don't expect specific methods to magically work with your kid - it's not guaranteed.

Cosleeping tends to keep sleep on the same cycle as the parents and most of the world does that for a reason.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

notwithoutmyanus posted:

Long sleeved shirts and long pants, glyph. You're not going to be able to get them to stop.

that wont help when he manages to get all his injuries on his face, drat it

There has to be a way T-T

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

GlyphGryph posted:

that wont help when he manages to get all his injuries on his face, drat it

There has to be a way T-T
Maybe some kind of child size Hannibal lecter mask for scab picking/bitey kids? That or a lampshade collar.

Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

GlyphGryph posted:

that wont help when he manages to get all his injuries on his face, drat it

There has to be a way T-T

Our eldest picks her scabs, she's got a scar on her face from when she picked her eczema. We would put a plaster on it at night and when we weren't able to keep our eyes on her.

1up
Jan 4, 2005

5-up

GlyphGryph posted:

that wont help when he manages to get all his injuries on his face, drat it

There has to be a way T-T

Liquid bandage?

foxatee
Feb 27, 2010

That foxatee is always making a Piggles out of herself.
I need help.
My daughter is 5, nearly 6, and in kindergarten. Before that she was full-time pre-school. Several times this school year she's been sent to the principal's office or sent home with notes regarding pushing or hitting or kicking other children. We've tried talking to her about it, explaining that it's wrong to hurt other people, and pointing out that she wouldn't like it if someone did that to her, right? This is an ongoing conversation and doesn't seem to be doing anything. We've taken things away as punishment. We've tried getting her to earn things back. We've tried a behavior chart where she gets stars for good behavior, and stars taken away for bad behavior. We don't spank. It doesn't make sense to tell her hitting is wrong, and then proceed to hit her. She's been seeing the school counselor for two or three months now. Today she was sent again to the office for pushing someone. Later she kicked a classmate.
If things go wrong, she throws a fit. If she's frustrated, she throws a fit. She argues constantly. She lies about stuff, even if you call her out on it, even if you loving saw her do it, she'll still lie and say she didn't.

What do I do? Because nothing seems to work. She doesn't care what we say or do. Half the time she doesn't listen; she just looks off and mumbles answers, or plays with her hands. Her room has been emptied of toys and she just shrugged it off.

I'm just so tired of this. I don't know what I did wrong. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar
You gotta wonder if the pushing/kicking would get treated differently if she was a boy. It doesn't seem like that sort of behavior is too far out of the norm for kids that age. It sounds to me like you're doing all the right things, but maybe it's time to talk to some sort of a child behaviorist and get some ideas from them? I would guess that this might just be something you have to weather and it will soon pass.

Is this full day kindergarten? Is there any pattern to when the pushing/hitting happens? Maybe she's overly tired or hungry? Is the school not a good fit for her? Is she young for kindergarten? Perhaps she isn't quite there developmentally and should do finish out in preschool?

foxatee
Feb 27, 2010

That foxatee is always making a Piggles out of herself.
We were the ones to reach out to the school counselor for her behavioral issues because we needed ideas on how to deal with her or redirect her. Maybe a behavioral specialist would be better. I can only assume we weren't the only parents who received that flyer in their kid's backpack.

It is a full day kindergarten. I don't think there are half day kindergartens around here. Unless it's a private school? But none of the public schools offer half day. The reason she's in this school is because many of her pre-school pals attend this school and we wanted to keep things familiar for her. She doesn't respond well to change.

Like many kids, she gets really grumpy when tired. She goes to bed at roughly the same time every night (830) and gets up at roughly the same time every morning (715-730). That includes weekends. I admit that I think her behavior is better on days in which we don't have to wake her. I don't know if she's hungry. She eats breakfast at home, and apparently will eat breakfast at school, as well. We used to give her bigger lunches, but she wouldn't finish them, so we scaled it back to half a sandwich, fruit, and chips/pretzels. She eats everything now.

I do know she doesn't like told to do. She doesn't respond well orders, but does better with requests or if you give her options. There are twenty kids in her class, so I know it's near impossible for the teacher to make special arrangements or anything for her. That many kids, you just need them to do things now and not in their own time. If she doesn't get along with someone (and there is one student, though it's not intentional or malevolent. Ames likes things quiet and this girl is the opposite), she's expected to just deal with it (we were told explicitly). Unfortunately, Ames 's way of dealing usually involves something physical.

They do several tests throughout pre-school and during kindergarten to assess whether or not your child is prepared and she's always passed, so I dunno.

kirsty
Apr 24, 2007
Too lazy and too broke
What a tough situation, and it really sounds like you are doing everything you can. Have you taken her to a doctor just to rule out something like hearing or vision impairment, or some other physical problem that's causing her to be frustrated?

If possible, you could try bringing her bedtime forward. My kid is the same age and goes to bed (and often straight to sleep) at around 7pm. He'll wake up by himself around 7.15am.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar
If these incidents are happening in the afternoon, it could be an indication of being tired/hungry or both. I think you shouldn't be afraid to send her with enough food that she doesn't finish it. Some days she might not finish it all, but that doesn't seem like a big deal to me. The sleep does sound like it might not be enough, I agree that getting her to bed earlier might help.

I was a lifeguard for years, and dealt with kids of this age all the time. Pushing and shoving was just a part of a kid's behavior from my perspective. Is pushing another kid really meriting sending her to the principal? Kicking is maybe another matter, and context does matter, but it does seem like this might not be as big of a deal as people are making it. Is there any chance she isn't happy in her class? Perhaps she would be a better fit with a different teacher?

I come from the world of dog training, which is basically all behaviorism based. You mention stars and taking things away, but it doesn't sound like you've hit on something that is a strong reinforcer for her. The best reinforcers are high value and immediate - think with a dog that right when they sit you give them the chunk of hot dog. With your kid, is there something you can reward her with right when she comes home when she has a good day at school? I think it's unfortunate that our culture has labeled these sorts of rewards as 'bribery', but I don't think that's the case. She has a good day at school, right when she gets home she 30 minutes of screen time or something like that.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009
I'd echo the putting her to bed earlier suggestions. My daughter goes to nursery for two full days a week and she was grumpy, whiny, wouldn't play with the other kids and just hated going. We were talking about changing her to half days but I decided to try putting her to bed an hour earlier and she's a different child. It' might not help at all but worth a try.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Holy christ, if I hear "Johnny, Johnny" or "Daddy Fingers" one more time...

:negative: :smithicide:

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Haha, the kids love those, even sing them on their own. A lot of Bob the Train now too, some of them are quite catchy.

This would be my favorite kids song, when they where younger we'd play this and sing along to get them to sleep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CgVjI-LiiY

An old classic swedish lullaby.

foxatee
Feb 27, 2010

That foxatee is always making a Piggles out of herself.
drat, we thought maybe we were putting her to bed early. All the family night stuff the school schedules is usually from 6-730. We'll definitely try an earlier bedtime and see if that's the problem. If not... Man, I just want this kid to realize she's doing something wrong and NOT DO IT.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
We put our kids to bed later than most, like 2030-2100. Any earlier and they will just not sleep.

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop

foxatee posted:

If things go wrong, she throws a fit. If she's frustrated, she throws a fit. She argues constantly. She lies about stuff, even if you call her out on it, even if you loving saw her do it, she'll still lie and say she didn't.

What do I do? Because nothing seems to work. She doesn't care what we say or do. Half the time she doesn't listen; she just looks off and mumbles answers, or plays with her hands. Her room has been emptied of toys and she just shrugged it off.

I'm just so tired of this. I don't know what I did wrong. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Part of growing up is a process of learning to manage strong emotions and impulses. Not getting proper rest makes this so much harder for a little kid.

My 7 year old step-daughter has been having a lot of similar problems with emotional regulation, and we have found that being well-rested definitely seem to be the most crucial factor. We saw great improvement when we moved her bedtime from a loose 8:30+ to a strict 8, with a ban on screens (tv/iPad/3ds/etc) at 7, so she has an hour of "quiet time" to wind down with a bedtime story or playing with non-electronic toys. We still struggle with some minor stalling and arguing and whining and backtalk about going to bed at 8, but it was much worse if she stays up later and gets overtired, or if going to bed ended screen time. After 8:30 or 9 she will would rather throw a full tantrum than go to bed. She doesn't seem to be able to help it, she can't rationally control her emotions and impulses when she is too tired.

She usually wakes up at about 8am and we have found that its important to feed her breakfast immediately, or else she gets an attitude and argues and stalls rather than getting ready for school. Getting dressed and then eating doesn't work, eating and then getting dressed goes smoothly.

Both of her biological parents suffer from ADHD, and she spends 50% of the time with her other dad. Her mom has never been very good with consistency and routine, but things were really getting out of hand and this schedule, and sticking to it consistently, has made a big difference for our family. For a while I fought and argued and imposed punishments and that was really the wrong approach.

VorpalBunny
May 1, 2009

Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog
My oldest had a rough start in school. Even from an early age, he did a lot of slapping at kids if he didn't get his way. It took a lot of redirection and consistent discipline to help him reign it in. He still loses his poo poo once in a while and wails on a sibling, which is always fun.

When he started structured school, he started in TK at 4. The first school we had him in was VERY structured, and he is such a goofball that he was constantly getting into trouble for dong things like dance around and say "I LOVE SCHOOL!" After a month of frustration, I finally realized the problem wasn't with my son but with the school, so I called the district to get him transferred to another school. We landed at a school that is even closer to our house and his TK teacher was AMAZING! I consider him a friend, now, and am excited for my daughter to be in his class this fall. He understands that 4-year old kids are still too little to really understand the rules of school, and that afternoons are hard because everyone is overtired and just done with school for the day. He is patient and good at redirection and is a perfect teacher for that age.

This year my son is now in kindergarten. He started the year rough, it's dual immersion so he was very frustrated he couldn't understand the teacher. He was acting out, and I would get calls from the principal once a month or so. Lots of behavioral issues, not listening in class or throwing tantrums. I make it a point every day to talk to all my kids' teachers to see how their day went, if they acted out, etc. After several conversations with his teacher, I realized he must be overtired. I thought we were putting him to bed at a decent hour, but it turns out we were keeping him up 90 minutes too late, or more some nights. It really screwed up our schedules, but we made a point of having dinner on the table around 6:30pm and everyone in bed around 7:30pm. These days, everyone is up around 7am, and his behavior has remarkably improved.

So, based on my own personal experience, I have a few pieces of advice. Is it the school or the school environment? Is there someone antagonizing her there? Is the structure too structured? Is she having trouble learning in class and that frustration carries over to the playground? Could you get her to bed earlier? Could you cut out some sugary snacks or something to reduce her energy levels? I had a teacher tell me my son should run laps before we bring him to school, since he has so much energy! I laughed, what a moron that lady was, he was just overtired and acting out. I think that was the day I told her to her face I was removing him from her class.

Oh, we used to do the taking away all books, all toys, etc. He has a defense system that kicks in where he thinks everything is a funny joke. We had to switch to stuff like taking away a privilege, like going to the park or something. I also have to make a point, when he does throw a tantrum, that once he calms down he understands how much awesome stuff he's lost and how he can react differently in the future to still get all the awesome stuff like dessert or playdates.

Kids are hard, man. Let us know if any of this advice hits home and how things progress. We're all in this together, trying not to raise a bunch of assholes.

Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

His Divine Shadow posted:

We put our kids to bed later than most, like 2030-2100. Any earlier and they will just not sleep.

I put ours to bed religiously at 6:45, those 3 hours before I go to bed are sacred. Currently it's gaming as my wife goes to bed with the 8 week old.

Kitiara
Apr 21, 2009
If my daughters go to bed any time before 7pm, you can be certain that they will wake up before 3am very wide awake and everyone will suffer. Between 7-8pm, it ranges between sleeping all night (if they had a busy day) or waking up at 6am. So we've settled with putting them down at 8-8:30pm and expecting them to wake up 7-7:3am.

How does everyone manage putting their kids to bed so early? Between work, making dinner, feeding both kids (can take forever), allowing them dessert if they finish their dinner (takes even longer) and a bath + story, we have to rush to get it done by 8pm.

Edit: The post above makes me so jealous. I'd kill for three full child-free hours at day.

Kitiara fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Feb 15, 2017

foxatee
Feb 27, 2010

That foxatee is always making a Piggles out of herself.

VorpalBunny posted:

My oldest had a rough start in school. Even from an early age, he did a lot of slapping at kids if he didn't get his way. It took a lot of redirection and consistent discipline to help him reign it in. He still loses his poo poo once in a while and wails on a sibling, which is always fun.

When he started structured school, he started in TK at 4. The first school we had him in was VERY structured, and he is such a goofball that he was constantly getting into trouble for dong things like dance around and say "I LOVE SCHOOL!" After a month of frustration, I finally realized the problem wasn't with my son but with the school, so I called the district to get him transferred to another school. We landed at a school that is even closer to our house and his TK teacher was AMAZING! I consider him a friend, now, and am excited for my daughter to be in his class this fall. He understands that 4-year old kids are still too little to really understand the rules of school, and that afternoons are hard because everyone is overtired and just done with school for the day. He is patient and good at redirection and is a perfect teacher for that age.

This year my son is now in kindergarten. He started the year rough, it's dual immersion so he was very frustrated he couldn't understand the teacher. He was acting out, and I would get calls from the principal once a month or so. Lots of behavioral issues, not listening in class or throwing tantrums. I make it a point every day to talk to all my kids' teachers to see how their day went, if they acted out, etc. After several conversations with his teacher, I realized he must be overtired. I thought we were putting him to bed at a decent hour, but it turns out we were keeping him up 90 minutes too late, or more some nights. It really screwed up our schedules, but we made a point of having dinner on the table around 6:30pm and everyone in bed around 7:30pm. These days, everyone is up around 7am, and his behavior has remarkably improved.

So, based on my own personal experience, I have a few pieces of advice. Is it the school or the school environment? Is there someone antagonizing her there? Is the structure too structured? Is she having trouble learning in class and that frustration carries over to the playground? Could you get her to bed earlier? Could you cut out some sugary snacks or something to reduce her energy levels? I had a teacher tell me my son should run laps before we bring him to school, since he has so much energy! I laughed, what a moron that lady was, he was just overtired and acting out. I think that was the day I told her to her face I was removing him from her class.

Oh, we used to do the taking away all books, all toys, etc. He has a defense system that kicks in where he thinks everything is a funny joke. We had to switch to stuff like taking away a privilege, like going to the park or something. I also have to make a point, when he does throw a tantrum, that once he calms down he understands how much awesome stuff he's lost and how he can react differently in the future to still get all the awesome stuff like dessert or playdates.

Kids are hard, man. Let us know if any of this advice hits home and how things progress. We're all in this together, trying not to raise a bunch of assholes.

I wouldn't say anyone is antagonizing her. There are kids who haven't figured out the whole "personal space" thing, and that's normal, but Ames does NOT like people being in her face, or in her space unless invited. A lot of the shoving/pushing is a result of that violation. I volunteer nearly daily in her classroom and all the kids are pretty well-behaved with a few exceptions. My husband thinks she may have picked up a few behaviors from one particular kid she hangs out with, and that may be so, though she denies it. What frustrates me is that I know this other kid is very... distracting for the class. He's constantly running around (literally), not listening, doing things he isn't supposed to be doing, laughs whenever you get after him, and spat on a girl because she didn't want to play with him. He has also slapped me and another mom on the rear end. His punishment? An apology. Did I mention he was named student of the week? loving stupid. Meanwhile, my kid gives a girl a shove to get her going because they've fallen behind the class and she's sent to the office and we get a phone call. But I'm assuming the student of the week isn't getting notes sent home or being sent to the office. I don't know about that other kid throughout the day (just when I'm there). It's not my business.

Her pre-school was semi-structured. I mean, they were aware that they have a classroom full of 4-year-olds and expecting them to adhere to a strict schedule is pushing it. But they did have a schedule. So I'm not sure it's a structure thing. Her teacher is nice. She's obviously overworked and has taken days off to get her poo poo together (she's admitted). This is her first time teaching a kindergarten class; she's always taught older students (1st - 3rd). I do talk to her every day (again, I volunteer, so we have moments in which we can discuss that day's behavior and what good things she's done). My husband and I both kinda wish Ames was in another class-- like maybe with the veteran kindergarten teacher-- but it's been strongly hinted that they aren't willing to move her because class sizes are stretched as it is.

We put her to bed earlier last night, so we'll see how today goes. She gets one sugary item throughout the day (besides fruit at lunch time), so I'm not sure she's being overloaded with sweets.

Fake edit: Oh, hubs says he gives her waffles or a muffin for breakfast, so I guess that's more sugar. I wish she'd eat peanut butter for the protein and to keep her feeling full, but Student of the Week kid is allergic, so she refuses.

VorpalBunny
May 1, 2009

Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog

Kitiara posted:

How does everyone manage putting their kids to bed so early? Between work, making dinner, feeding both kids (can take forever), allowing them dessert if they finish their dinner (takes even longer) and a bath + story, we have to rush to get it done by 8pm.

Well, this was our problem. My husband has an 1+ commute to/from work every day, and to avoid rush hour he was leaving later in the day so he was getting home around 7:30pm. Then we had about 90 minutes for dinner, bath & bed. Kids in bed around 9pm. I was very happy with that arrangement, we still had a few hours at night to gently caress around, but when it became clear my oldest needed to go to bed earlier that meant shifting schedules for everyone and it really sucked.

Now my husband is stuck in rush hour traffic both ways, yesterday was 90 minutes each way. I encourage him to work from home more, but ultimately he's going to need a job closer to home. This commute is sucking the life out of him. BUT the kids are behaving better, and we have so much time at night to gently caress around, and if they don't get in bed exactly at 7:30pm it's fine. As long as we get close, everything shakes out.

The irony is my husband and I are night owls, so on weekends we end up staying up until 1:30am even if we got up early with the kids. We are dumb.

As far as kids in the classroom, my daughter started preschool last fall and her behavior was pretty rough. It was beyond struggling with classroom stuff like writing and crafts, it was the combination of kids in her room. She had three little boys who were, frankly, very very naughty. One even hit me when I picked my daughter up from school. Just walked right up to me and punched me in the leg. They would rile all the kids up, and Mary would just go nuts and misbehave I guess because she saw the other kids doing it. I posted in here about it, we were really concerned!

BUT - after the Holidays, they moved the kids around and one of them left school. So, the punching kid went to the other room, the one kid moved away, and the boy left behind became this docile friendly little dude. My daughter even became good friends with him! The kid who moved away showed up a few weeks ago and her behavior immediately went in the toilet, but he's gone again (I think) so she's back to decent-to-great behavior. There is such a herd mentality for some kids, they see a douchebag getting away with murder and they have to test the waters themselves.

Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

Kitiara posted:

If my daughters go to bed any time before 7pm, you can be certain that they will wake up before 3am very wide awake and everyone will suffer. Between 7-8pm, it ranges between sleeping all night (if they had a busy day) or waking up at 6am. So we've settled with putting them down at 8-8:30pm and expecting them to wake up 7-7:3am.

How does everyone manage putting their kids to bed so early? Between work, making dinner, feeding both kids (can take forever), allowing them dessert if they finish their dinner (takes even longer) and a bath + story, we have to rush to get it done by 8pm.

Edit: The post above makes me so jealous. I'd kill for three full child-free hours at day.

My wife works 3 days and I'm off for one of the days she's in work. So those days it's easy to have them ready for bed by 7. And the day we're both at work she'll get them from nursery and be home for 5:30/6 and dinner is a 20 minute prep. And that gives us 40 minutes to encourage them to eat. Then pj's on and two stories and bed. They have a bath every 3 days, so we try to time that when we've got dinner finished at a decent time.

We've been pretty fastidious about getting them to bed at 7. We noticed that even if we put them to bed at 8/9 they'll still wake up at 7am. So there's no lie in on that front.

It took a few months to get them both in the habit of staying in their beds once they went into big girl beds, but they understand that it's night time and time for bed.

The morning was a challenge as the eldest would just breeze into our bedroom as soon as she woke up. But we got a grow clock that changes colour at a set time and she uses that to know when it's morning time. We've got them both into the habit of using it. We're probably over strict about bed time (I know I start climbing the walls if it's 7 and they're still eating tea).

They both were different sleepers growing up, the eldest would only wake up once a night from about 3 months whereas the middle would be up 3/4 times a night until she was 9 months.

We just need the littlest one to get into a routine and we're golden!

It's not all golden, we've got our challenges just thankfully it's not to do with sleep.

sheri
Dec 30, 2002

My kid is in bed by 8. We are both home from work by 5, usually by 4:30/4:45, a super short commute helps.

Our friends with sucky commutes also have their kids in bed by 7:30 but when they get home it's basically one cooks while the other does baths, they eat, bedtime for kids.

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Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker
Our 17 month old asks to go up to bed at around 7:00pm. :smug:

(I know that's fleeting...as are his once a day bowel movements which this week have shifted into once every-two-day monsters)

With getting him ready, it's more like 7:30-8:00pm that he's actually in bed and we're out the door.

Same as Kitiara said, though. Put him down earlier and he'll wake up earlier.

He used to reliably wake up at 5am along with the stupid cats independently begging for breakfast.. As he's been reliably sleeping in until 6am, I'm the one having problems adjusting to the new and improved schedule.

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