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Another good chapter. Emphasis on how history repeats itself because how people hold convictions (like Eren, ironically) and how hard is to break the cycle of hate, a very good scene of a minor character doing DROP-MIC telling trues, how even if Marlowe was brave and inspiring, he regretted it in the end, as it's normal, and how he told to the protagonists and how they believe they are specials and beyond rules was great. Also, ocean! Now, them skipping one year in this point was strange, because Eren learned key information just before the timeskip, he needs to touch Historia, not kill her. It's not believable he hold that information for himself for a year and didn't do anything.
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Oh hey, can't believe it took me a month to connect the dots.   
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What a nice chapter  Although it's true it's still a bit anticlimatic that the guillotine trap killed pretty much ALL THE TITANS offscreen.
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Would you rather see a montage of eren systematically eradicating them all of these reveals showed is that there's not some limitless number of titans, they were almost all up front and then when those were gone, there wasn't really anything to replace them, hell, from day 1 you had them pointing out that the outer cities were basically titan bait. If there were really so many titans they'd be surround those as far as the eye could see. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Feb 10, 2017 |
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Feb 10, 2017 09:02
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mindless titans stopped being a threat a while ago, all the named characters are veterans, and veterans are much steadier against titans than rookies
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Feb 10, 2017 16:15
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I wonder if the time skip means that Armin trained up his Titan self offscreen so they'll skip all of that for him.
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Feb 10, 2017 16:26
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Last I read of this was when Erin and friends were captured by Bert and whatshisface in the forest, there was also some titan wrestling which may have been before or after I don't remember. Anyone remember around what chapter this was so I can catch up? Thanks internet friends.
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Okay, so I'm reading through AoT for real this time, but I have to pause and say something because I'm feeling upset about a theme the story is trying to convey and want to make sure I'm not misinterpreting: When Eren finally sacks up and goes Titan-form to fight the Female Titan, he makes this big to-do about how his choice to trust in his comrades get them all killed and it's all his fault for not acting sooner (apart from the Female Titan herself, of course). Why is Eren agonizing over this? He made what seemed to be the right choice in the heat of the moment, especially after being browbeat and guilt-tripped by his squadmates to not do anything. If anything, Eren should be pissed at them for valuing emotion/trust over minimizing casualties by not utilizing their full potential with Eren's Titan-form earlier. It was the Survey Corps holding Eren back, not the other way around. Am I getting this right? I'm really enjoying the manga so far, but forcing this sort of idiotic moral dilemma on the reader rings really hollow to me from a story-telling perspective. Given the whole bent of "SACRIFICING YOUR LIVES FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF HUMANITY!" militarism, you'd think there'd be cooler heads besides Rivaille (?) in the cream-of-the-crop survivor elite group thinking the overall situation through more rationally. Or maybe that's the point? Even among the best-of-the-best there's still human frailty or failings? From what I can tell, they are still basically kids and probably aren't infallible. Thoughts? e: Well, poo poo, Eren didn't do much either. Guess it's all hosed regardless, then! v  ve2: Holy poo poo, that scene of Eren/Mikasa seeing those kids be inspired like they were by the Survey Corps. 
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Feb 12, 2017 17:37
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:When Eren finally sacks up and goes Titan-form to fight the Female Titan, he makes this big to-do about how his choice to trust in his comrades get them all killed and it's all his fault for not acting sooner (apart from the Female Titan herself, of course). Eren's comrades are dead and he is partly responsible. In addition, Eren is the kind of person who values the lives of his friends and tends to approach situations emotionally rather than rationally.
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you should prob stop reading this thread, but everything in this post made me laugh cause it's pretty good foreshadowing for the last few chapters or so
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Schwarzwald posted:Eren's comrades are dead and he is partly responsible. In addition, Eren is the kind of person who values the lives of his friends and tends to approach situations emotionally rather than rationally. Partly responsible by not ignoring them and Titan-shifting immediately? Sure, I'll take it. It is admittedly easier to be detached from the situation if you're just the observer, after all. Oh, and I'm sure not to read the rest of the thread obviously, it's not my first rodeo. I saw a few spoilers for late-story stuff though which is what's compelling me to read through the whole thing legitimately just to find out what the gently caress is going on with everything. I think it's equal parts mystery, body horror, and psychological/moral/human drama that's keeping me riveted. e: Oh yeah, and the panel depictions are absolutely stunning. Getting some serious Berserk/Miura/Junji Ito vibes, which I love. e2: Yeah, more and more I think my issue above is with Eren more than the storytelling itself. He's just an emotionally impulsive person and that impulse is a double-edged sword cutting both ways (ie fighting on despite hopelessness vs fighting for people you care about in spite of all reason telling you they are horrible people). Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Feb 12, 2017 18:37
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:e2: Yeah, more and more I think my issue above is with Eren more than the storytelling itself. He's just an emotionally impulsive person and that impulse is a double-edged sword cutting both ways (ie fighting on despite hopelessness vs fighting for people you care about in spite of all reason telling you they are horrible people). Eren is kind of his own biggest enemy at the start, which is all the more impressive considering the size of his other enemies. I'm glad you seem to be enjoying it. Without spoilering anything, people are still arguing about what themes it's trying to convey. Eren being a dope is one of the few things that we know for sure.
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I know this is more for the anime thread, but I have to reiterate how completely  and metal the first anime OP is:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScV5tNmHbgw It's seriously an adrenaline-pumper. I wanna crush them Titans, to the last!  e: Does anyone else have issues with keeping some of the minor characters straight in their head? AoT is a very character-based drama and some of the male characters blur together in my mind. They keep referring to lesser role characters I can't remember, it doesn't help that they keep dying off so quickly (some I remember though, like Ness). I'm already terrible with remembering names in real life (hence the Noriaki Kakyoin/JoJo thread reference with my username), so...  e2: Actually, now that I think about it, one subtle thing about AoT I really, really like is that it scratches the same itch that the Zero Escape series does as well. In other words, it's super intriguing to get glimpses into intimate moments with isolated characters before they die separate from the "main story" (eg Ilse's notebook, sniffing-guy with the Ape Titan, etc). It's an interesting use of dramatic irony, almost like the characters impart more with their death to the audience than the other characters do in the story. It's a hard niche to fill, but I enjoy it! e3: Connie...  e4: God drat, this manga is so freakin' cool sometimes! e5: Okay, so rule of thumb in AoT: if they're a mysterious stand-offish loner who doesn't say or emote much, they are probably secretly really powerful. Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Feb 12, 2017 20:10
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Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who preferred die Flugel der Freiheit.
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Fister Roboto posted:Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who preferred die Flugel der Freiheit. No, I'm with you on this one.
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What if...both are good, and don't need to be better than the other
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:e: Well, poo poo, Eren didn't do much either. Guess it's all hosed regardless, then! v Personally, I'm really looking forward to seeing how the internet reacts to season 2 in April.
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Captain Invictus posted:What if...both are good, and don't need to be better than the other Why can't you just see things in black and white? We don't need any of your namby pamby complexity up in here.
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The truth is always in the middle. ~ Abraham Lincoln
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Why is Eren agonizing over this? He made what seemed to be the right choice in the heat of the moment, especially after being browbeat and guilt-tripped by his squadmates to not do anything. If anything, Eren should be pissed at them for valuing emotion/trust over minimizing casualties by not utilizing their full potential with Eren's Titan-form earlier. It was the Survey Corps holding Eren back, not the other way around. If I recall correctly, Levi implicitly gave Eren permission to ignore orders if he saw it fit so yeah, he has reasons to feel guilty.
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To be fair, there's a good chance that Eren would have ended up getting kidnapped if he had initiated the fight against Annie earlier, so in a way his squad-mates were correct to encourage him to not fight her (since Eren's survival is highest priority).
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"Everyone here.. ...is a witness." Oh shiiiiiiit!  I don't know how this manga keeps making fresh tension and jaw-droppping poo poo all the time! Also, loving Armin holy poo poo dude!  e: Also lmao the entire flashback explaining the military coup happened in the middle of mysterious troops coming to a torture site. That's a lot to take in. e2: This manga really, really, really likes to focus on split-second choices and their lasting consequences as a theme, huh? I think I get it already, sheesh. e3: Wow, that torture scene of the head Royalist guy was pretty hosed up! *reads into Attack on Titan's publication history* THE CREATOR WAS GONNA ORIGINALLY PUBLISH THIS IN WEEKLY SHONEN JUMP??  
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Sorry for the double-post, but just wanted to say I blitzed through Attack on Titan in three days and I'm now current. Wow, what a ride! Also  at Hange/Levi:quote:Huh? What are you talking about? What "phase"? *cough* A lot of teens are like that, y'know...
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Hate-Senpai posted:Oh hey, can't believe it took me a month to connect the dots. Just caught from about chapter 70 in the last few days, need some help with this one. I'm a bit dumb but the sameface this manga has sometimes isn't helped by Titan forms  .
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sharktamer posted:Just caught from about chapter 70 in the last few days, need some help with this one. I'm a bit dumb but the sameface this manga has sometimes isn't helped by Titan forms The titan who spoke (briefly) to a survey corp member, as recorded in her recovered diary, had previously been the "priest" who profited from the exhibition of Ymir.
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Yeah, Ilse (I think that was her name) met a Titan that could talk and called her Ymir in one of the side chapters. Ilse had freckles on her face and dark hair, sort like Ymir. Which contributed to this mystery around who Ymir could be. And now we know who the speaking Titan was.
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At least we got the obligatory beach episode out of the way.
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I'm so glad nobody spoiled him about what was in the basement. Besides the Titan porn, everybody saw that one coming.
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Hate-Senpai posted:Oh hey, can't believe it took me a month to connect the dots. So far, this is the most well planned ongoing manga I've ever read.
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New chapter is out - http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Shingeki-no-Kyojin/Chapter-091?id=349045 Am utterly confused by the events in this chapter.
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This is an unexpected turn of events, but a welcome change of pace. Did we skip ahead? Or is this the past? I can't tell from the translation.
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Seems to be about 4 years from when Armin ate Bert. Shouldn't Reiner already be dead by this point though? I'm assuming the bearded guy they showed when they mentioned the Armored Titan is supposed to be him. EDIT: Nevermind I think at this point he should still have 2-3 more years to live. RatHat fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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Man, what the fuccccck. That's a pretty huge curveball to throw in this chapter, but I am definitely interested in seeing where this goes.
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Schwarzwald posted:Eren is kind of his own biggest enemy at the start, which is all the more impressive considering the size of his other enemies. has eren actually won a single fight yet i checked out of the manga when eren did that armor thing and rather than show him be useful in any way the manga immediately skipped past it
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Yinlock posted:has eren actually won a single fight yet He beat Reinhardt more or less with the whole ripping him apart at the joints thing.
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