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Norman Smiley is a shining light in this time of darkness.
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Feb 15, 2017 03:57
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I feel like Norman deserves better than the Hardcore title. I'm not sure if I'd be supporting him or enabling him.
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Feb 15, 2017 04:00
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David Flair vs. Kimberly AND Meng vs. The Total Package? Be still my beating heart.
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ChrisBTY posted:I feel like Norman deserves better than the Hardcore title. The WCW Hardcore thing is so weird. I suppose it has something to do with Turner S&P not wanting blood and broken glass everywhere but it's like a comedy version of something that's already pretty silly.
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Maxwell Lord posted:The WCW Hardcore thing is so weird. I suppose it has something to do with Turner S&P not wanting blood and broken glass everywhere but it's like a comedy version of something that's already pretty silly. It probably has more to do with WWF having their own comedy hardcore division.
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I'm not sure if we were ever supposed to take the WWF's hardcore division seriously. But once Crash Holly became champion and instituted the 24/7 rule then all doubts are removed. Surprisingly Norman Smiley actually predates Crash Holly, which is weird because I could have sworn Smiley was Russo trying to re-create Crash. Maybe it was something Russo had in the tank that The WWF decided to do after he left.
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MassRafTer posted:Tomorrow night, the tournament concludes with MAYHEM '99! There are going to be so many gently caress finishes 
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Aye Doc posted:norman smiley needs us all tomorrow night. he needs our support. anyone who isn't there watching norman in his quest for gold is no friend of mine
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Feb 15, 2017 15:32
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DJExile posted:There are going to be so many gently caress finishes I think this will have the most clean finishes of any Russo booked WCW PPV. So one.
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This is the best Russo-booked WCW PPV. It all gets worse from here.
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I will be late but I set the room to start MSW at 7.
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hurray!
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MassRafTer posted:I will be late but I set the room to start MSW at 7. 
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And suddenly I can't connect EDIT: Managed it but had to change browsers, that was odd. Maxwell Lord fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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MassRafTer posted:Tomorrow night, the tournament concludes with MAYHEM '99!  you forgot CANADIAN NAZIS
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I didn't get home in time to catch this, but I hope you had the original tape and not the WWE network version where a bunch of the themes are dubbed over.
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1st AD posted:I didn't get home in time to catch this, but I hope you had the original tape and not the WWE network version where a bunch of the themes are dubbed over. We had the originals. Congratulations, Vince Russo. You managed to take Chris Benoit and Bret Hart fighting for the WCW World Heavyweight Championship in Toronto, and make it boring.
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Feb 16, 2017 10:02
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Maxwell Lord posted:We had the originals. The finish was cool at least, when they were both scrambling for their finishers and Bret got the upper hand, but it wasn't as good as the Owen Hart Memorial one where Benoit was struggling to drag Bret down for the crossface, then Bret double legs Benoit and passes to half-guard  before locking in the sharpshooter.
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Maxwell Lord posted:We had the originals. Yeah it needed Jeff Jarrett coming out and interfering
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It seriously had... I think 4 (5?) people run in (Outsiders, Goldberg, Sting/Luger?) at various points and absolutely none of it played into the outcome. They were run ins simply for the sake of run ins 
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The best one was the Luger run-in during the Hart/Sting semifinal. It kind of ruins a cool finish - Hart elbowing Sting's injured leg to get out of the scorpion deathlock. Should've just had a regular match where Hart targeted the leg and then did the same finish.
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DJExile posted:It seriously had... I think 4 (5?) people run in (Outsiders, Goldberg, Sting/Luger?) at various points and absolutely none of it played into the outcome. They were run ins simply for the sake of run ins Dont forget Dean Malenko and his Canadian disguise
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Last week on MAYHEM '99 Bret Hart won the world title! This week: The Alt-Right vs The Filthy Animals for the WCW Tag Titles! Evan Karagias vs Saturn! Vampiro vs The Wall! Jeff Jarrett vs Bret Hart for the WCW World Title! Kidman vs Eddy Guerrero Meng vs Elizabeth Lash Leroux vs Disco Inferno TYGRESS VS SPICE Buff Bagwell vs Booker T MADUSA VS ASYA Chris Benoit vs Dean Malenko in a FLAG MATCH Sting vs Meng and The Outsiders vs Goldberg and Meng! See all the fallout from the PPV, plus NWA MSW at 7 PM! 8 PM for Nitro! https://synchtu.be/r/TheDJRanPosition
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Somehow those 12 matches probably won't be as bad as the dozen matches from last week.
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3 Meng matches and people call Russo a horrible booker
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There is a typo on one of those Meng matches. But just one of them.
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oatgan posted:3 Meng matches and people call Russo a horrible booker In a company where everyone is buried and nobody gets over, the seemingly random pushes doled out to people which are never followed up on are kind of interesting.
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Every time. Every drat time Jeff Jarrett shows up in a segment with The Outsiders, Bret Hart, Sting, The Total Package etc I just keep thinking "Holy butts Jeff you do not belong out there go join the revolution or something." On one hand: gently caress Hulk for being a selfish douche who got his right to be selfish interpreted in the most favorable way possible by a sympathetic judge. On the other: Holy poo poo SOMEBODY had to be the one to tell Russo "No Russo, you have hitched your wagon to a stupid horse with a stupid gimmick. Stop trying to turn your mediocre turd of a pet project into something he will never be."
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ChrisBTY posted:Every time. Every drat time Jeff Jarrett shows up in a segment with The Outsiders, Bret Hart, Sting, The Total Package etc I just keep thinking "Holy butts Jeff you do not belong out there go join the revolution or something." You do realize Hogan didn't refuse to do a job at Bash at the Beach. It was a storyline and the lawsuit came about because Russo's planned, agreed upon scripted promo deviated from the agreement and violated the spirit of the creative control clause.
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MassRafTer posted:You do realize Hogan didn't refuse to do a job at Bash at the Beach. It was a storyline and the lawsuit came about because Russo's planned, agreed upon scripted promo deviated from the agreement and violated the spirit of the creative control clause. The "worked shoot that got worked into a shoot" aka the Russo Special
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MassRafTer posted:You do realize Hogan didn't refuse to do a job at Bash at the Beach. It was a storyline and the lawsuit came about because Russo's planned, agreed upon scripted promo deviated from the agreement and violated the spirit of the creative control clause. The storyline came about because Hulk refused to job.
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Maxwell Lord posted:In a company where everyone is buried and nobody gets over, the seemingly random pushes doled out to people which are never followed up on are kind of interesting. I'm still confused by the brief Brad Armstrong push.
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ChrisBTY posted:The storyline came about because Hulk refused to job. No, the storyline came about as part of a continuing attempt to make Hulk Hogan an anti-authority Steve Austin like babyface. They'd done the same stupid finish 10 months earlier.
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Considering WWE's refusal to push anyone but the people they want, I can almost appreciate WCW's "throw everything against the wall" approach. If only they thought to check if anything stuck.
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I just remember the plan for Bash at the Beach being Booker walking out as champion and it not being a last minute thing. I feel like the Observer had details on the storyline weeks in advance.
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My understanding was that as BatB was being booked Russo tried to get Hogan to job conventionally, but Hogan used his CC to shoot down every scenario that Russo concocted no matter how strong it made him look. So Russo went with the finish that we saw. Hogan agreed and that was that. Until Russo either let his frustration boil over in the promo or used the opportunity to go off-script, not realizing that that in and of itself was a violation of Hogan's CC. Maybe I was misinformed, but I'm not exactly inclined to disbelieve a story involving Hogan being uncooperative. The Booker/Jarrett match could have been concocted in a different manner so it doesn't necessarily contradict anything the Observer reported. Either way, Hogan being that pedantic about not getting his way exactly the way he wanted was a prime example of "Just because you can doesn't mean you should" Then again, gently caress Jeff Jarrett.
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ChrisBTY posted:My understanding was that as BatB was being booked Russo tried to get Hogan to job conventionally, but Hogan used his CC to shoot down every scenario that Russo concocted no matter how strong it made him look. So Russo went with the finish that we saw. Hogan agreed and that was that. Until Russo either let his frustration boil over in the promo or used the opportunity to go off-script, not realizing that that in and of itself was a violation of Hogan's CC. Maybe I was misinformed, but I'm not exactly inclined to disbelieve a story involving Hogan being uncooperative. The Booker/Jarrett match could have been concocted in a different manner so it doesn't necessarily contradict anything the Observer reported. I agree Bret screwed Bret.
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ChrisBTY posted:My understanding was that as BatB was being booked Russo tried to get Hogan to job conventionally, but Hogan used his CC to shoot down every scenario that Russo concocted no matter how strong it made him look. So Russo went with the finish that we saw. Hogan agreed and that was that. Until Russo either let his frustration boil over in the promo or used the opportunity to go off-script, not realizing that that in and of itself was a violation of Hogan's CC. Maybe I was misinformed, but I'm not exactly inclined to disbelieve a story involving Hogan being uncooperative. The Booker/Jarrett match could have been concocted in a different manner so it doesn't necessarily contradict anything the Observer reported. Bischoff, Russo and Hogan were trying to work the boys with the Bash at the Beach booking. The idea was likely to play off of the belief Hogan buried Billy Kidman and now wouldn't put over Jarrett, and would play into Hogan's whole FUNB gimmick.
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Alright, if I was misinformed, I was misinformed. It happens. That having been said. Would Hogan have put over Jarrett conventionally were he asked? Because really using your creative control clause to sue over 'losing' in a promo is really the height of pettiness, even if it's within your rights. Unless Hogan decided that it was just a good excuse to get a great severance package. I guess I can't fault him for wanting out. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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