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Over/under on issues U19 will last? Since apparently Jump readers gobble trash right up, while hating good things.
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U19 has such a weird and kinda offputting premise. It's basically anime Kids Next Door but high-schoolers and more serious, with weird eugenics-sounding gene testing and a facist armband sporting adult faction. E: also the last chapter of Demon's Plan is up. It's dumb. The Patron guy shows up and basically explains what the endgame was going to be, then the characters leave on the rest of the adventure no one will ever see. Also I wonder if the literal translations of the demon's titles was using the "-ist" suffix because good god most of those sound stupid. Anger-ist? Revenger-ist? What? Fabricated fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 19:33
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Sarcophallus posted:We are kind of talking about a magazine targeted at teens. But yeah it's trash. It's even too heavy handed for that. Even as a teen I'd think that was patronizing. Fabricated posted:U19 has such a weird and kinda offputting premise. It's basically anime Kids Next Door but high-schoolers ... It's this. I was looking for a way to explain what it felt like and that is perfect. It's as if KND was presented completely seriously and in earnest.
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Feb 16, 2017 19:56
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Mikl posted:Over/under on issues U19 will last? Since apparently Jump readers gobble trash right up, while hating good things. Sods law sort of dictates this will be the thing that sticks. After all Jump is the same magazine that dragged Nisekoi out for 200 weeks somehow and allowed World Trigger which, by all rights, should be about traveling to alternertive Universes, to be "Hyperbolic Time Chamber, the comic book" Also Medaka Box which has more of Nisioisin's poo poo in it than I'm comfertable with there being in any one thing (Which is to say any). Crain posted:It's even too heavy handed for that. Even as a teen I'd think that was patronizing. Thing is that TPN, for all the issues that I have with that comic's pacing, got this right; you establish that the world is OK only to drop the protag right into the poo poo and reveal of it actually being a shitheap designed to Kill decanters by making their hearts bloom flowers (?) / Turn them into Mindless Drones / Matrix and go from there. It's a lost art, that of subtlety. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 20:38
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Nisekoi worked cause it was safely generic enough that it picked up readers easily. Like all of Nisekoi is a mish-mash of elements from all the popular romcoms before it. U19 is just pretty bad.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:41
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I genuinely refuse to believe Nisekoi can be described as anything but aggressively poo poo and the author was deliberately pulling a Springtime for Hitler manouver in order to squeeze every last bitter penny out of shogakukan.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:44
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Nisekoi is a master class in grudge-loving your own audience.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:16
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Oh by the way, I saw in Jump's TOC that that one ballroom manga has ended. Straighten up or something like that. Did it end naturally or was it axed?
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Feb 16, 2017 21:21
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Mikl posted:Oh by the way, I saw in Jump's TOC that that one ballroom manga has ended. Straighten up or something like that. Did it end naturally or was it axed?
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Feb 16, 2017 21:27
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Mikl posted:Oh by the way, I saw in Jump's TOC that that one ballroom manga has ended. Straighten up or something like that. Did it end naturally or was it axed? Noo, I liked that series  That's a bummer.edit: The Adult Party in that U19 manga seems unironically good since it apparently guarantees everyone a job and a house. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 22:00
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Read U19, yea its loving terrible and not subtle at allllllll Grown Ups Party = G.U.P 
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Feb 17, 2017 01:31
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Mikl posted:Oh by the way, I saw in Jump's TOC that that one ballroom manga has ended. Straighten up or something like that. Did it end naturally or was it axed? It was never sitting near the bottom, so I assumed it ended naturally, but I stopped reading cause scans dried up for a while, so I dunno.
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Feb 17, 2017 01:35
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Scans dried... but only 5 chapters away from the end??? http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Seshiji-o-Pin--to-Shikakou-Kyougi-Dance-bu-e-Youkoso
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Feb 17, 2017 03:11
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Allarion posted:It was never sitting near the bottom, so I assumed it ended naturally, but I stopped reading cause scans dried up for a while, so I dunno. It's hard to tell, because the scans still aren't caught up, so it may have gone straight to poo poo in the end. But it's been sitting pretty in the middle for like a year now. I feel like there's more that could've been told, but maybe this was a strategy to build up goodwill with Shueisha to get a more out-there concept through the door. Or at least, the author is able to turn around and make that a possibility with the ending of the series.
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Feb 17, 2017 03:11
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Hate-Senpai posted:Scans dried... but only 5 chapters away from the end??? There was a large gap between August and November Zep! I assume the new scan group tried to catch up as fast as they could.
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Feb 17, 2017 03:14
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Bah, just three months. You and I have both waited longer than that for Hunter x Hunter.
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Feb 17, 2017 03:16
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Hate-Senpai posted:Scans dried... but only 5 chapters away from the end??? Huh. I could've sworn it was longer. I thought it was out before Black Clover, but Wikipedia says May 2015. Did someone think it would not be a good idea to have this compete with Welcome to the Ballroom?
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Feb 17, 2017 03:16
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Kuroyama posted:Huh. I could've sworn it was longer. I thought it was out before Black Clover, but Wikipedia says May 2015. Wait, are there two different manga about Ballroom dancing running right now? Or were, rather, since Straighten Up just ended.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:25
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Wait, are there two different manga about Ballroom dancing running right now? Or were, rather, since Straighten Up just ended. Yeah, Ballroom e Youkoso which runs in a different shonen magazine.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:29
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ConanThe3rd posted:Also Medaka Box which has more of Nisioisin's poo poo in it than I'm comfertable with there being in any one thing (Which is to say any). Medaka Box is a work of art and owns hardcore I'm being completely sincere, Medaka Box kicks the poo poo out of every comic you just mentioned, and probably most of the stuff running in Jump right now
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Feb 17, 2017 05:35
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Erg posted:Medaka Box is a work of art and owns hardcore Indeed Medaka Box rules and I miss it.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:36
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God Medaka Box was so good.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:38
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Dexo posted:God Medaka Box was so good.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:40
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It was the freshest.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:50
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Allarion posted:It was never sitting near the bottom, so I assumed it ended naturally, but I stopped reading cause scans dried up for a while, so I dunno. IIRC Straighten Up took a big ratings hit along with a bunch of other newer series when Bleach and Nisekoi ended, and took a while to recover. That plus how bad and dull the last big arc was probably meant the author was told to hurry things along but not outright cancelled. Also, loving lmao at Demon's Plan's ending. Desperately begging for a continuation right up to the last second.
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Feb 17, 2017 07:19
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parts of it sucked really hard but the rest more than made up for it
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Feb 17, 2017 09:35
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chumbler posted:Indeed Medaka Box rules and I miss it. Nothin is worse than explaining a joke you just made and that is that sod's entire writing style from cover to cover. When the joke is "LOL JUMP IS THE PITS" that's just the cherry on top. bondster posted:Read U19, yea its loving terrible and not subtle at allllllll Grown Ups Party = G.U.P
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Feb 17, 2017 22:45
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bondster posted:Read U19, yea its loving terrible and not subtle at allllllll Grown Ups Party = G.U.P ConanThe3rd posted:Oh god every time someone brings U19 up they find some new angle to the writing I must have scrolled past this like 5 times, and I just now got the "joke".
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Feb 17, 2017 23:39
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The most interesting way U19 could go is for the protagonist to organize an uprising and take over the school in a coup, setting it up as an independent state. Also  says that he actually has an even higher genetic result than his childhood friend (maybe quadruple-S or S-star or something), based on the fact that he didn't want to look at the result in the first place and he's apparently "special" so he can awaken libido problems.Also also, can we get a name change for this thread? The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > ADTRW > The Miscellaneous Shounen Thread: Shonen Jump Manga Death Watch
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Feb 17, 2017 23:45
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I started MEadaka Box cuz of this stupid thread and now I'm judging you all for the non-zero amount of HEY I LOOK LIKE A LITTLE GIRL BUT GUESS WHAT I'M AN ADULT/HIGH SCHOOLER characters
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Feb 18, 2017 02:42
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Mikl posted:The most interesting way U19 could go is for the protagonist to organize an uprising and take over the school in a coup, setting it up as an independent state. Libido powers won't be measured on the same scale that measures the genetic capacity, allowing him to still seem lovely while having the ability to wreck house. For that "underdog" feel.
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Feb 18, 2017 02:48
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I started MEadaka Box cuz of this stupid thread and now I'm judging you all for the non-zero amount of HEY I LOOK LIKE A LITTLE GIRL BUT GUESS WHAT I'M AN ADULT/HIGH SCHOOLER characters All two of them, as I recall? And also they are both great.
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Feb 18, 2017 03:45
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Whatever it was it's already too many for me, I avoid like 99.99% of anime/manga to avoid reading the series where a forty two year old woman looks like an eight year old or whatever Still, it is kinda fun I guess. I'll just have to deal with the "typical" shounen creepo stuff this time
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Feb 18, 2017 04:02
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Mikl posted:The most interesting way U19 could go is for the protagonist to organize an uprising and take over the school in a coup, setting it up as an independent state. The most interesting way would be to make The Rulling Party right. That without thier guidance mankind is doomed to nothing but the struggle with not even a hole in the ground guaranteed at the end of the day. That those with stands have the power to rule but not the knowledge and experience. Make it a fight between an oppressive but safe Law or a free but blood soaked Chaos. But that would require Nuance and Good Writing, both of which this comic (and Jump, by and large) are sorely lacking and with The Good For You party being aluded to as Nazis within page 8 of the story any chance of them being painted as anything less than cackling villians is nonexistent. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Feb 18, 2017 |
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Feb 18, 2017 18:30
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ConanThe3rd posted:The most interesting way would be to make The Rulling Party right. That without thier guidance mankind is doomed to nothing but the struggle with not even a hole in the ground guaranteed at the end of the day. We already know that they provide jobs/housing to everyone, and our limited view of outside characters (the main character's dad) seems to think it was a good idea. If they could just get rid of the "literal caste system" stuff it would be a pretty good society.
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Feb 18, 2017 18:49
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Kuroyama posted:I must have scrolled past this like 5 times, and I just now got the "joke". I still don't get it. Is it a play on the German Worker's Party? Grand Old Party? I don't know anything that shares that abbreviation.
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Nalin posted:I still don't get it. Is it a play on the German Worker's Party? Grand Old Party? I don't know anything that shares that abbreviation. It's a play on the Grand Old Party, or GOP, an alternate name for the Republican party in American politics. I think it's probably a touch added by the translators. Could anyone confirm?
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Feb 18, 2017 21:25
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Maybe because GU sounds like the word "jiyuu" which means freedom?
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Feb 19, 2017 05:07
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Ytlaya posted:We already know that they provide jobs/housing to everyone, and our limited view of outside characters (the main character's dad) seems to think it was a good idea. If they could just get rid of the "literal caste system" stuff it would be a pretty good society. The problem is that if, to pull from history, it came out that demons were eating children in the U19 setting it wouldn't be a suprise because of the whole Nazi imagry and without a reveal like that to dismiss the society's good then it really just make the protagonist look like an arsewipe. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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Feb 19, 2017 08:18
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Just read U19. It's... Something alright. I haven't really read much straight up shonen (mostly a SOL, josei/shoujo, fantasy, and/or comedy manga reader these days), so now that most of the major Jump series are done, it's really interesting to see what they're trying to fill the void up with and I find it fascinating how these premises try to one up each other in batshit or normalsauce.
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