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# ? Feb 19, 2017 02:42 |
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I'd suggest reading something fun before you get into the esoteric poo poo. Good Omens and American Gods are indeed fun books. I also really like Larry McMurtry's westerns, Lonesome Dove and its sequels. If you can find something that gets you turning pages, then you can get into something later that makes you think. That's my two cents. But Ready Player One is pretty awful.
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# ? Feb 19, 2017 23:19 |
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You have to spend several months grinding your reading level on 'fun' books about quirky mythological creatures in a contemporary world before you read books where you do some 'thinking'
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 00:58 |
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Hooplah posted:I haven't read that one but you're probably right. It good! I think most or all of them were articles in Scientific American. A few of them are very obviously Cold Warry, but that's, you know, understandable from a man who was terrified or nuclear annihilation happening in his lifetime. It also makes a serviceable doorstop or bludgeoning weapon. There are a LOT of individual essays.
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 01:47 |
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Chamberk posted:esoteric poo poo why is everything outside genre fiction esoteric poo poo OP you may have run off but if you did not maybe something playful/wistful like short stories by Marquez (the handsomest drowned man in the world, a very old man with enormous wings), Kafka (description of a struggle, the hunger artist), or the novel Kangaroo Notebook by Kobo Abe
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 00:57 |
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gently caress it, since we're all just freestylin': If you want a cool PROJECT type book, you could try Infinite Jest. It's one of those "hardcore modern lit" books, but bear with me: It's actually not that crazy. Think of it as basically Royal Tenenbaums mixed with an Irvine Welsh story mixed with vague Hamlet references. Among a bunch of other stuff like wheelchair-bound assassins. It's a cool book. I'm really selling it short. My point is this: Since you haven't given us literally anything to work with, we're all going to swing wildly. So. You can take Infinite Jest as more of a project than a straight-up read, treating it like a big puzzle and piecing it together using the SHOCKING amount of resources available for 1st time IJ readers. (Check out Infinite Summer and some of the online wikis to read along with. ) Or you can just read Ready Player One: "The Hey Memba Old Video Games? You Sure Are a Smart!" extravaganza.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 04:38 |
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If you don't want to get into erdogic lit because it is too esoteric, try the classics. A lot of them aren't far removed from genre fiction. It's just that they are like fanboys of other poo poo. Read Tolstoy's comparisons of "Homer" vs "Shakespeare" but replace them with "Star Trek" and "Star Wars". Tolstoy is goon supreme, so start there. But he's maybe a little too sincere for the modern ironic detached type, so go with "Dead Souls" by Gogol instead. Or if you want it to play with modern media in a failed but dick-waving way try the Red Wheel series by Solzhenitsyn. August 1914 is a great book and also fanfic supreme, including parts where he gives up halfway through and just writes stage direction for the animu in his mind. Shbobdb fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Feb 23, 2017 |
# ? Feb 22, 2017 04:44 |
weab00 posted:There was once a time when I would gobble up a book a week. I read voraciously and would spend my afternoons darting my eyes across pages, sometimes on the edge of my seat, and other times weeping. After buying a Macbook Air, though, I started to read less and less. It got to the point where I read maybe a book or so every two months. Now when I try to read, my mind begins to wonder after just one page, and when I do try to bring myself back, everything is just so bland to me. The internet has ruined my ability to pay attention to a book. Books are simply dull to me now It sounds to me like you need to make reading easy, specifically easier than playing around on your MacBook Air. Buy a kindle and download a bunch of random free books and keep it in your pocket and read whenever you have a spare moment. No matter what you do, there's likely a lot of time in your day where you don't have time to internet or don't have internet access. Fill that time with a kindle. If you don't want to get a kindle, get a kindle app for your smartphone. I'd point to the Books of the Month for the past few years as good general recommendations, many of them free on kindle or other ebook formats. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 04:51 |
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Shbobdb posted:But he's maybe a little too sincere for the modern ironic detached type, so go with "Lost Souls" by Gogol instead. That's not the name of the book.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 08:59 |
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pepperoni and keys posted:That's not the name of the book. Thanks, it's been corrected.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 08:40 |
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chernobyl kinsman posted:experimental literature. 'ergodic lit' is an a) an unnecessary neologism, because it improves in little to no way upon the extant term 'experimental lit' and b) very poorly chosen, because ergodicity and ergodic theory are already established terms with meanings long predating the word's (very different) application to lit I'm not quite sure how I like the term ergodic lit but plain "experimental" doesn't really pass muster here. I mean literature described as ergodic is experimental but specifically in a way that the actual act of reading requires non-trivial effort. And anyway, the term fills a niche and if it catches on it doesn't really matter if it has different established meanings in different spheres. I agree it's far from perfect though since there seems to be no other common features in "ergodic" lit than funky typography/layout. So maybe it'll never really catch on because it is not really necessary to have a specific term for such books. And I have gone full circle and am currently devouring my own tail.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 23:14 |
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Jerome Agricola posted:I mean literature described as ergodic is experimental but specifically in a way that the actual act of reading requires non-trivial effort. that applies to a lot of literature that you wouldn't call ergodic as well though
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 00:57 |
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Jerome Agricola posted:I agree it's far from perfect though since there seems to be no other common features in "ergodic" lit than funky typography/layout. So maybe it'll never really catch on because it is not really necessary to have a specific term for such books. Typographic novels? Layoutrature?
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 01:59 |
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Infinite Jest: ergodic or not?
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 04:20 |
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The badness of it certainly requires a non trivial effort to get through.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 04:35 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It sounds to me like you need to make reading easy, specifically easier than playing around on your MacBook Air. yeah actually your probably used to reading stuff on a screen as opposed to on paper which is kinda different. like your reading poo poo right now no problem right? the lighting, feel, and even the headspace your in is a bit different right down to how you process the information. ebooks might be worth a shot you can download ones onto your mac instead of buying something else hell even your phone is going to have an app for it try that see if it helps.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 05:59 |
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# ? Apr 18, 2024 03:13 |
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I definitely read a lot more now that I have an ereader that fits in my back pocket rather than when I was lugging around big stupid books from the library all the time
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 18:44 |