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BB-8 is an under-rated Hollywood Handbook joke.
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Feb 9, 2017 23:46
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On this week's one Sean says something like "I'm going to stop down on this". Which I wouldn't have noticed if I hadn't read this thread beforehand. I really don't think it's a technical term and I really do think you're being insane.
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Feb 9, 2017 23:46
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Oh man, this Dave Thomas episode. Still have a handful more earlier eps to catch up on.
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Feb 10, 2017 00:58
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feedmyleg posted:Oh man, this Dave Thomas episode. I always picture the Wendy's founder when I see that name and boy does it make me loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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Feb 10, 2017 01:07
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the dave thomas episode comes like 30 episodes in to the run of hollywood handbook and it's amazing that he dives in harder to the concept more than any other guest on the show
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Feb 10, 2017 02:45
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The Dave thomas episode owns. Sometimes i think Julie Klausner plays along a little too hard on hollywood handbook but she was extremely good on this weeks episode
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Feb 10, 2017 02:47
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Is Pistol Shrimps Radio no longer on Earwolf? On my iTunes there's no eps on the feed and I think there isn't many on the earwolf website. I know it hasn't updated in awhile but just curious if it's no longer on earwolf.
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Feb 10, 2017 03:31
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The Ape of Naples posted:Is Pistol Shrimps Radio no longer on Earwolf? On my iTunes there's no eps on the feed and I think there isn't many on the earwolf website. I know it hasn't updated in awhile but just curious if it's no longer on earwolf. I think it's just the off-season.
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Feb 10, 2017 03:37
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kdrudy posted:I think it's just the off-season. I know. In retrospect it seems like Earwolf it does go back 6 months which is in line with Howl. I guess I just wasn't sure because in my iTunes there's no episodes in the feed and that seemed weird.
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Feb 10, 2017 03:53
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The Ape of Naples posted:I know. In retrospect it seems like Earwolf it does go back 6 months which is in line with Howl. I guess I just wasn't sure because in my iTunes there's no episodes in the feed and that seemed weird. Might just be iTunes? I checked my feed in Overcast and it's there (it's also on Howl)
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Feb 10, 2017 04:48
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Julie Klausner is a fantastic HH guest and really leaned into it this week. Anyone who can crack the boys up is A+ in my book. Katie Couric also had a great podcast on gender this week, in other Earwolf news 
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Feb 10, 2017 06:40
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Sean letting Wiger skip him and talk about dessert for ten minutes before "...Niiiick?" "Yes?" "I never said my entrée..." was so good
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Feb 12, 2017 05:32
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I found two examples of the mysterious "stop down" phrase: Most recent Julie Klausner ep at 1:01.09 PFT, Again at 41:50 I doubt that they are saying pot it down like we previously thought might be the case.
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Feb 13, 2017 22:55
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Yeah I just recently listened to the Klausner ep and heard it. Maybe they are making camera references, to be extra hollywoody? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stopping_down
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Feb 13, 2017 23:37
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Scharpling was asking Hayes to "pot him down" when Sean was audibly confused about cooking a egg that is also a dragon, and Scharpling knows alot of old radio lingo 
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Feb 14, 2017 20:56
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I don't know if I can still rightfully claim to have good, highbrow taste in comedy after laughing so hard at the How To Shower intro segment of today's HH.
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Feb 15, 2017 01:31
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No, it was amazing. You can only shampoo your hair once and you better have a gun. I'm learning a lot about the ins and outs of Hollywood.
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Feb 15, 2017 02:21
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Tacier posted:I don't know if I can still rightfully claim to have good, highbrow taste in comedy after laughing so hard at the How To Shower intro segment of today's HH. When they both bus up laughing at saying "shoot it" about the shampoo. Also some great owns on Wiger's use of twitter. I've really enjoyed all these meta-podcast universe episodes lately. Mitch tried really hard and I think ended up doing pretty great.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:08
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How do funny guys write such lovely movies like Fist Fight and Ride Along? I know that Susser and Van and Jason Mantzoukas are legitimately funny and not some hack screenwriters from Scooby Doo or whatever so why are their movies so bad? I'm just going to blame it all on studio notes
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Feb 17, 2017 16:12
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I've never seen Ride Along and I love Mantzoukas but It's possible that he's funny at improv and not at screenwriting. I'm sure there are some master violinists who couldn't write a good symphony. Also, he's one of at least 4 writers on that movie. Who knows what got used and what didn't. That said goo for him. I enjoy him and hope he makes a ton of money. Even if it's from writing bad movies. Edit: I'm not going to fix my typo.
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Feb 17, 2017 16:43
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Creative control is a tricky and rare thing in Hollywood, and the people with the least creative control are screenwriters with very, very few exceptions. Things like Fist Fight and Ride Along aren't passion projects for their writers, they're contract gigs where you're executing someone else's idea on someone else's terms, with a lot of factors that are totally out of your control. A studio didn't call up Mantzoukas and say "Here's $200,000, write us the funniest film you can about whatever you want!" with Ride Along. They likely said something much more akin to "We are making a movie with Kevin Hart and Ice Cube. It needs to be family friendly film that appeals to urban audiences. Here is the director's vision and several pages of notes we've prepared by committee over the course of initial creative development, we'd like you to translate it into a screenplay. But also here are Kevin Hart and Ice Cube's demands for their characters. Also they will have their assistants constantly rewrite your work to be in the voices of their personas. Make sure you get Kevin Hart's catch phrase in there several times, but not more than Ice Cube's catch prase. We will pay you $50,000 for your first draft, and if we want to keep you on the project we will pay you for each subsequent draft as long as you adhere to our notes. And also several other writers will come in and change large portions of your screenplay before and during filming, but not legally enough so that they get SGA credit." That's just kinda how it goes. By all accounts it sounds like Katie Dippold wasn't happy that most of her jokes were removed from the Ghostbusters screenplay in favor of action and spectacle, and outside of internet teeth-gnashing people seemed to dig that film. But hey, work is work. And at some point you'll hopefully be able to work with a director who trusts your vision and crafts the screenplay with you while letting your voice through. Screenwriters aren't authors often so much as they are cat wranglers. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Feb 17, 2017 16:56
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It's really hard to make a good movie for a number of reasons. Also I think ride along did pretty well.
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Feb 17, 2017 17:39
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In the hollywood process, the writer has so little control in the final product.
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Feb 18, 2017 02:36
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feedmyleg posted:Creative control is a tricky and rare thing in Hollywood, and the people with the least creative control are screenwriters with very, very few exceptions. Things like Fist Fight and Ride Along aren't passion projects for their writers, they're contract gigs where you're executing someone else's idea on someone else's terms, with a lot of factors that are totally out of your control. That's not how Fist Fight got made at all. They wrote it on spec. And the director Richie Keen, a TV director, fought like hell to get it made. He tells the whole story on Industry Standard podcast. He paid $8,000 out of pocket to put together a ripomatic sizzle reel and used a general meeting to essentially sneak attack an executive into saying "I'm THE guy for this." R-Rated comedies by first-time screenwriters/directors are not first thing on a studio's list. As for Ride Along, you can tell from the credits that his agent got him the assignment to do a pass on the script and enough was used that he got credit on the script. Ride Along's credits are: Greg Coolidge ... (screenplay) and Jason Mantzoukas ... (screenplay) and Phil Hay ... (screenplay) & Matt Manfredi ... (screenplay) Greg Coolidge ... (story) That means Greg came up with the idea and sold it. Then he wrote a draft. Then Jason wrote a draft. Then Phil Hay and Matt Manfredi wrote a draft. And besides those 4, there was probably another writer or two who did uncredited script doctor work on it. As for the first guy's question about lovely movies by funny people, a really simple Hollywood rule is: In movies, the director is king. In TV, the writer is king. WerthersWay fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Feb 18, 2017 |
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Feb 18, 2017 03:53
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In a web series the person with 100 dollars is king.
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Feb 18, 2017 23:53
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I'm listening to the With Special Guest... Generations (Scott+PFT) episode for about the twentieth time. It has to be just about my favourite thing those three have ever made.
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Feb 21, 2017 10:38
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Teenage Fansub posted:I'm listening to the With Special Guest... Generations (Scott+PFT) episode for about the twentieth time. It has to be just about my favourite thing those three have ever made. I love that episode. It's insane. Scott doesn't do characters that often but when he does he goes nuts with it.
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Feb 21, 2017 13:11
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I liked how Scott grabbed the teenage girl character out from under Lauren at the beginning. Classic Saucermam
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Feb 21, 2017 14:51
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He operates on a whole nother level of subverting improv that is amazing. His Spontaneanation appearance is similarly great.
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Feb 21, 2017 17:37
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there was a west wing reference on today's hollywood handbook and it made me laugh
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Feb 21, 2017 19:16
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Sean talking about how he was an orphan found on a farm and he was a "farmy brat" was very good.
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Feb 21, 2017 22:06
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A few months ago I tried to tell people I was a farmy brat during a meeting a work and it totally bombed. I don't think anyone was even familiar with the term army brat, and my boss kept saying "you didn't grow up on a farm!"
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Feb 22, 2017 04:14
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You've learned a lesson about trying to bring internet into real life. Don't.
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Feb 22, 2017 06:19
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I'd say you learned a lesson about not being a liar. Why would you even say you were a farmy brat if you weren't one. Do you think that's funny? Because it's not. It's serious.
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Feb 22, 2017 07:11
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the only hollywood handbook bit i've ever brought up in real life was pauly shore calling sean a homo and everyone there totally knew exactly what i was talking about
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Feb 22, 2017 07:26
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that HH episode was the best in a long time, I hope those guests return at some point. didn't really expect two hosts of an astrology podcast would work so well. the highlights had to be hayes' ongoing problems with carrie anne moss and "so his mouth is writing chex that his body can't cash?"
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Feb 22, 2017 08:20
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That's stealing valor from the real farmy brats like Sean.
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Feb 22, 2017 14:40
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If you can find a nicher bootleg comedy podcast merch I'd like to see it
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It seems like howl might be on the way out so maybe wladyslaw can get a nice job in the nerdist laboratory or something
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