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Mu Zeta posted:Yeah and it's shortly before the scariest scene in the whole series where Bilbo turns into a monster. That was also out of place. Why is Bilbo more menacing than literally anything else in the rest of the trilogy. It's a cool scene to show kids though. Hint: It's scary and menacing precisely because it's unexpected due to the light tone so far.
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It's actually scary because it's a cheap jump scare. Peter Jackson should go back to fun movies like The Frighteners.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:28
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Mu Zeta posted:Yeah and it's shortly before the scariest scene in the whole series where Bilbo turns into a monster. That was also out of place. Why is Bilbo more menacing than literally anything else in the rest of the trilogy. It's a cool scene to show kids though. I found them less boring than the actual books. But no it wasn't out of place it was what clued Gandolf in to that maybe something isn't quite right in the Shire.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:30
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Yeah that scene straight up makes Gandalf gently caress off for 20 years to figure out if it's the One Ring and if so, who else knows about it. It's really important and kind of kicks off literally the whole series.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:32
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food court bailiff posted:Yeah that scene straight up makes Gandalf gently caress off for 20 years to figure out if it's the One Ring and if so, who else knows about it. It's really important and kind of kicks off literally the whole series. Not to mention that it's in the book.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:36
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Gimli wasn't a joke he killed like a billion million orcs!
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Feb 21, 2017 19:38
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In the first lord of the rings why did Gandalf have to hold the balrog back at the bridge? That big thing wasn't getting across it, as soon as he stepped on it it collapsed. They all should have just kept running. Maybe he could have jumped the chasm or something but he seemed pretty slow in general. Also why weren't there any guard rails on the bridges/stairs down there.
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Feb 21, 2017 20:04
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yeah I eat rear end posted:In the first lord of the rings why did Gandalf have to hold the balrog back at the bridge? That big thing wasn't getting across it, as soon as he stepped on it it collapsed. They all should have just kept running. Maybe he could have jumped the chasm or something but he seemed pretty slow in general. Dwarves don't care about OSHA
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Feb 21, 2017 20:08
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Mu Zeta posted:Yeah and it's shortly before the scariest scene in the whole series where Bilbo turns into a monster. That was also out of place. Why is Bilbo more menacing than literally anything else in the rest of the trilogy. It's a cool scene to show kids though. Doesn't Bilbo go all monster-face much later on, when he meets up with Frodo again in the Elf city? I'm pretty sure when he's with Gandalf at the start of the film he just gets all weirdly possessive over the ring, realises he's being crazy, and Gandalf convinces him to leave it behind.
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Feb 21, 2017 20:18
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jabby posted:Doesn't Bilbo go all monster-face much later on, when he meets up with Frodo again in the Elf city? Yeah it's actually Gandalf that comes off a bit scary in the early scene, what with the "Do not take me for a conjurer of cheap tricks!" and how giant he looks in the little Hobbit hole.
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Feb 21, 2017 20:23
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yeah I eat rear end posted:In the first lord of the rings why did Gandalf have to hold the balrog back at the bridge? That big thing wasn't getting across it, as soon as he stepped on it it collapsed. They all should have just kept running. Maybe he could have jumped the chasm or something but he seemed pretty slow in general. Gandalf wanted the EXP boost
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Feb 21, 2017 20:35
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Bilbo says that the ring shouldn't be given up, as it's become "my precious". Gandalf then makes him leave it behind, as this reminds him of Gollem. The monster face at the elf village is just showing Frodo how bad it is. Also, I figured that the Balrog fell off the breaking bridge because Gandalf weakened it with his spell. The Balrog even snarls as a sort of "that's the best you got?" taunt, and overlooks his poor footing.
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Feb 21, 2017 20:52
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Yeah, it's been a while since I read the books or saw the movie but I'm pretty sure it actually only starts falling after Gandalf smashes his staff down during that iconic "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!" scene.
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Feb 21, 2017 21:47
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I like it when Gandalf says "Swords are of no use here" and then proceeds to fight and kill the Balrog with a sword.
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Feb 21, 2017 23:46
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yeah I eat rear end posted:In the first lord of the rings why did Gandalf have to hold the balrog back at the bridge? That big thing wasn't getting across it, as soon as he stepped on it it collapsed. They all should have just kept running. Maybe he could have jumped the chasm or something but he seemed pretty slow in general.  Because Balrogs have wings!
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Feb 21, 2017 23:54
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Tunicate posted:
Well I bet he feels pretty stupid for letting himself fall all that way then instead of flying back out of the hole
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Feb 22, 2017 00:02
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Tolkien got way pissed about balrogs having wings in that animated movie I thought.
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Feb 22, 2017 00:42
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Or was he more pissed about being dead at the time.
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Feb 22, 2017 00:45
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Well I bet he feels pretty stupid for letting himself fall all that way then instead of flying back out of the hole "Fly you fool" is one of those running wizard jokes, lot like calling out "hey idiot" and making fun of anyone who responds.
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Feb 22, 2017 01:12
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Gandalf had to kill it because otherwise he would have joined Sauron's army and wrecked everyone's poo poo. Same reason Gandalf orchestrated all the events of the Hobbit, because he knew the dark lord was coming and he wanted Smaug dead before that happened. According to Reddit.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:35
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But where does Jar Jar fit in?
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flatluigi posted:But where does Jar Jar fit in? I think he's a street performer now.
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Mu Zeta posted:Yeah and it's shortly before the scariest scene in the whole series where Bilbo turns into a monster. That was also out of place. Why is Bilbo more menacing than literally anything else in the rest of the trilogy. It's a cool scene to show kids though. The Witchking of Angmar is menacing as gently caress though
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Feb 22, 2017 05:07
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Len posted:Dwarves don't care about OSHA People always try to equate the races of middle earth with religions and ethnicities but the truth is dwarves were republicans. Their women? All beards.
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Feb 22, 2017 05:26
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synthetik posted:I think he's a street performer now. I love that this is 100% true. Jar Jar's fate was to be a homeless street clown everyone hates.
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Feb 22, 2017 05:32
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flatluigi posted:But where does Jar Jar fit in? I read a click bait article about a fan theory that proved he orchestrated the fall of the rise of the sith and fall of the Jedi so presumably whatever you do after that.
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Feb 22, 2017 06:02
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Even odds that he's the true form of Master Snoke.
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flatluigi posted:But where does Jar Jar fit in? He's the key to all of this, cause he's a funnier character than we've ever had before.
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syscall girl posted:People always try to equate the races of middle earth with religions and ethnicities but the truth is dwarves were republicans. 
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Mu Zeta posted:It's actually scary because it's a cheap jump scare. Peter Jackson should go back to fun movies like The Frighteners. I wish he would go back to making movies like Bad Taste and Dead Alive.
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Tunicate posted:
Quite possibly  but this is a point of some contention 
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syscall girl posted:People always try to equate the races of middle earth with religions and ethnicities but the truth is dwarves were republicans. 
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Away all Goats posted:I like it when Gandalf says "Swords are of no use here" and then proceeds to fight and kill the Balrog with a sword. No he used a hammer. 
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My irrationally irritating moment is that after Gandalf says,"I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the mountainside", neither Aragorn, Legolas or Gimli whisper,"Holy poo poo that's badass...." I always loved that line 
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To them that's just another day on the farm.
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Away all Goats posted:I like it when Gandalf says "Swords are of no use here" and then proceeds to fight and kill the Balrog with a sword. "Legendaries or GTFO".
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Away all Goats posted:I like it when Gandalf says "Swords are of no use here" and then proceeds to fight and kill the Balrog with a sword. After the sword had been hit by lightning. I don't think Aragirn could have pulled that off.
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Jerusalem posted:My irrationally irritating moment is that after Gandalf says,"I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the mountainside", neither Aragorn, Legolas or Gimli whisper,"Holy poo poo that's badass...." I always heard it as "smelt" so the line seemed less badass and more gross because it's probably been a while since that balrog took a shower plus he's rotting now.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:In the first lord of the rings why did Gandalf have to hold the balrog back at the bridge? That big thing wasn't getting across it, as soon as he stepped on it it collapsed. They all should have just kept running. Maybe he could have jumped the chasm or something but he seemed pretty slow in general. Gandalf was a Maiar which is basically an angel made by Eru. One of Gandalf's main goals is too wipe all traces of Melkor's creations off the face of Middle Earth. He didn't have to seek the Balrog out, but once we was face to face with it he really had no choice but to destroy it.
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Away all Goats posted:I like it when Gandalf says "Swords are of no use here" and then proceeds to fight and kill the Balrog with a sword. But he didn't do it there.
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