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I know it's a plot point, but I love how the Minbari warrior caste hates Sheridan for being dishonorable about seeding nukes on asteroids, when the Black Star was gunning for them specifically because they were sending out a distress signal saying they were harmless. You reap what you sow, assholes. (my favorite moment in the entire series is when he does it again to the Vorlons and the Shadows. 'They're pissed" indeed. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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I was in Japan and they still have Zima there, so I tried one. It was as disappointing as I expected. This is my Babylon 5 story I hope you enjoyed it.
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MisterBibs posted:I know it's a plot point, but I love how the Minbari warrior caste hates Sheridan for being dishonorable about seeding nukes on asteroids, when the Black Star was gunning for them specifically because they were sending out a distress signal saying they were harmless. Minbari are extremely hypocritical in general, the Warriors doubly so. Like, they almost committed xenocide! It's only because of a last-minute lucky break humanity survived. I just finished "A voice in the wilderness". Nearing the end of Season 1. I'll miss bald Delenn and Sinclair, but I'll be happy to see Sheridan again and more mister Morden.
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Hahaha, I never expected the Giant from Twin Peaks to show up in Babylon 5! The Episode is Soul Mates for the curious. Sheridan feels like a natural fit very fast, and it's funny seeing the dude picked by the bad president to control Babylon 5 turning out to be as impossible to control and principled as the previous guy.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Hahaha, I never expected the Giant from Twin Peaks to show up in Babylon 5! The Episode is Soul Mates for the curious. It's pretty funny when you think about it. Sheridan had this big war hero reputation for sticking it to the aliens so it's a perfect choice for a quick replacement and for Clarke to show how "Earth First" he is.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:53
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:We just had to buy a new season 2 because of some scratched discs, but they're only like $18 on Amazon. I bet if B5 was selling big the execs at WB would just say "well hell, they're already selling great, why bother spending any money on it??"
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pentyne posted:It's pretty funny when you think about it. Sheridan had this big war hero reputation for sticking it to the aliens so it's a perfect choice for a quick replacement and for Clarke to show how "Earth First" he is. Yeah, and Sheridan even has a much more cowboy attitude than Sinclair. It's just that he'S fundamentally a good guy and not a racist, so Clarke's plan is bungled completely at the start, it's amazing.
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Feb 17, 2017 11:35
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MonsieurChoc posted:Yeah, and Sheridan even has a much more cowboy attitude than Sinclair. It's just that he'S fundamentally a good guy and not a racist, so Clarke's plan is bungled completely at the start, it's amazing. Actually it's a major plot point. Sheridan's profile reads like hardline Earth-first without actually being so, which was perfect for the Earth Alliance faction investigating Santiago's assassination to nudge him into the position.
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Feb 17, 2017 11:55
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And the Minbari hated him for what he did in the Earth-Minbari war, kinda funny how that choice turned out.
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Angry Lobster posted:And the Minbari hated him for what he did in the Earth-Minbari war, kinda funny how that choice turned out. That's what Minbari War Syndrome does to you.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Actually it's a major plot point. Sheridan's profile reads like hardline Earth-first without actually being so, which was perfect for the Earth Alliance faction investigating Santiago's assassination to nudge him into the position. Yeah, I get that. Bester even says that he was told the new guy would play ball and he's disappointed he's not. Also, first appearance of Zack in the background!
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Watching "The Coming of Shadows" now. You can pinpoint the exact moment Londo realizes he's made a huge mistake and his soul dies inside.
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Man, Minbari hypocrisy is still as infuriating as I remember. They hate Sheridan for... fighting back? They replace Delenn with loving Neiroon, despite being ready to name her leader just a weeks prior, it's amazing. Also, never trust someone who says he never lies.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Also, never trust someone who says he never lies. 
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MonsieurChoc posted:Man, Minbari hypocrisy is still as infuriating as I remember. They hate Sheridan for... fighting back? They replace Delenn with loving Neiroon, despite being ready to name her leader just a weeks prior, it's amazing. There is a method to their "hypocrisy". 1) They hate Sheridan for luring a battleship into a trap instead of facing it head-on. They donīt hate him for fighting, but for winning with a "dirty trick". 2) They had to replace the position, thats how the Council works, and thereīs always a number two for these cases. In this case, the Warrior Caste simply used some muscle to get Neiroon in instead.
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Mr.Misfit posted:There is a method to their "hypocrisy". It's still hypocrisy though. When you have an overwhelming technical advantage, you don't get to talk about fair fights.
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MonsieurChoc posted:It's still hypocrisy though. When you have an overwhelming technical advantage, you don't get to talk about fair fights. Why isn't there a Minbari History Month?
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MonsieurChoc posted:It's still hypocrisy though. When you have an overwhelming technical advantage, you don't get to talk about fair fights. That's actually not true, as the Humans challenged the Minbari to combat so it's their own fault they got slaughtered by Minbari standards. The humans really pissed them off with the double-insult of attacking when they were displaying a gesture of respect (flying with gunports open), and offing their most respected leader in the first volley.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:That's actually not true, as the Humans challenged the Minbari to combat so it's their own fault they got slaughtered by Minbari standards. The humans really pissed them off with the double-insult of attacking when they were displaying a gesture of respect (flying with gunports open), and offing their most respected leader in the first volley. Getting angry at "tricks" when your ships are basically immune to them otherwise is being really bitter about the other guy daring to fight back. Now onto the next episode, the one with the TV Show framing device, and I see the dockworker from season one is still there! Woo.
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God, I wish dock worker strikes in real life got resolved as cleanly as in this show.
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Man, that Sheridan speech at the end of the episode is loving great. The bit about looking at our ancestors and then at our inheritors got to me.
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Angry Lobster posted:God, I wish dock worker strikes in real life got resolved as cleanly as in this show. The people in charge in real life give less of a poo poo than Sinclair does
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Angry Lobster posted:God, I wish dock worker strikes in real life got resolved as cleanly as in this show. I love the way that one gets resolved; You want me to read the riot act? You absolutely certain you want me to read the riot act and deal with this situation however I deem fit? Alright then... 
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I love the way that one gets resolved; You want me to read the riot act? Such a big, beautiful gently caress You to authoritarianism. As I recall, that's the episode JMS' wife wrote. It's certainly a standout, standalone episode for S1.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:That's actually not true, as the Humans challenged the Minbari to combat so it's their own fault they got slaughtered by Minbari standards. The humans really pissed them off with the double-insult of attacking when they were displaying a gesture of respect (flying with gunports open), and offing their most respected leader in the first volley. MonsieurChoc posted:Getting angry at "tricks" when your ships are basically immune to them otherwise is being really bitter about the other guy daring to fight back. Its been awhile since I watched In the Beginning, but wasn't the ship Sheriden blew up also using the same trick he ended up doing? I'm fairly certain I remember there was a smaller Minbari ship that pretended to be in trouble to lure earth ships out in the open, and then that great big battle cruiser jumped in to kill them all. And Sheridens ship only survived thanks to
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One thing I dug about B5 is that at some point during the Earth/Minbari war, even the rear end in a top hat warrior caste was beginning to think this poo poo wasn't so fun because they were wrecking poo poo way too easily.
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So I've recently started a rewatch of the series because, due to the recent political climate, it is nice to see a brush with fascism that I know will eventually have a happy ending.
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hangedman1984 posted:So I've recently started a rewatch of the series because, due to the recent political climate, it is nice to see a brush with fascism that I know will eventually have a happy ending. Better hope there's a fleet of ships ready to deal with the Scorched Earth suicide then. 
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I'm not sure if the ending is all that happy. Certainly hopeful though. And then from the look of Earth, the series is pretty pessimistic about the way we're headed in general.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I'm not sure if the ending is all that happy. Certainly hopeful though. Any story that posits humanity making it off Earth in significant numbers is far more optimistic than is warranted.
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Baka-nin posted:Its been awhile since I watched In the Beginning, but wasn't the ship Sheriden blew up also using the same trick he ended up doing? I'm fairly certain I remember there was a smaller Minbari ship that pretended to be in trouble to lure earth ships out in the open, and then that great big battle cruiser jumped in to kill them all. I can't remember if it was B5, maybe In The Beginning, or if I'm conflating it with like the Clone Wars or something, but I seem to recall the Minbari shooting down escape pods too.
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:I can't remember if it was B5, maybe In The Beginning, or if I'm conflating it with like the Clone Wars or something, but I seem to recall the Minbari shooting down escape pods too. I don't think anything like that is directly stated. However, the Minbari were absolutely waging a war of total extermination, so, shooting down lifepods was probably matter of course.
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Milky Moor posted:I don't think anything like that is directly stated. However, the Minbari were absolutely waging a war of total extermination, so, shooting down lifepods was probably matter of course. I wouldn't be surprised by it either. Delenn even said that they, as a race, "went mad" during the war.
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This thread has got me really wanting to rewatch B5, but out here in Hong Kong we can't get it on Amazon Prime. Any Asia Goons know of a way to watch it in this region?
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The only legal way would be to buy DVDs. I guess you could try futzing with VPNs too but I've heard they detect that now and block it. Maybe that's just Netflix?
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:I can't remember if it was B5, maybe In The Beginning, or if I'm conflating it with like the Clone Wars or something, but I seem to recall the Minbari shooting down escape pods too. I think they may have been an off handed mention of the Centauri doing that during their Narn conflict.
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Beefeater1980 posted:This thread has got me really wanting to rewatch B5, but out here in Hong Kong we can't get it on Amazon Prime. Any Asia Goons know of a way to watch it in this region? You might check iTunes, it has the whole series in the US but I dunno about other regions.
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