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Arcsquad12 posted:Gas clouds affect humanoids right? So the one Flaming Rose fight in the cavern could be won by chugging a Golden Oriole and then kiting them around the gas field, correct? Not sure about that, but I do know those gas clouds are flammable.
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Uhhh so I started playing Blood and Wine before finishing the main story (I'm at the point where I was supposed to meet Avallach at a boat somewhere after getting Gelles or whatever to "help" me ) but apparently I wasn't supposed to, based on what I'm reading in here? Should I go back to the main story? I thought by virtue of being a DLC it was just something you did before you finished the game.
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Centzon Totochtin posted:Uhhh so I started playing Blood and Wine before finishing the main story (I'm at the point where I was supposed to meet Avallach at a boat somewhere after getting Gelles or whatever to "help" me ) but apparently I wasn't supposed to, based on what I'm reading in here? Should I go back to the main story? I thought by virtue of being a DLC it was just something you did before you finished the game. You can play it before the end of the main game but the very end-end of the DLC won't trigger till you've completed the main game I'm pretty sure. I always play B&W (and Heart of Stone) after the main game anyway. B&W feels very much like an epilogue to the Witcher series and it doesn't make much sense to me anywhere during the main campaign for Geralt to head off to Toussaint and spend a few weeks dealing with a mystery there.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:25
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HiredGun posted:Is anyone playing this on a Steam Link? If so, how does it run and what are your specs? I was, 1070, i5 and a steamlink wired up. Pretty good, not much frame loss or anything, only problem was the steam controller not behaving too well with my GOG copy of Witcher 3. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Feb 22, 2017 04:40
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I was, 1070, i5 and a steamlink wired up. Pretty good, not much frame loss or anything, only problem was the steam controller not behaving too well with my GOG copy of Witcher 3. Did you bother trying it on WiFi or is there just no point?
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Feb 22, 2017 04:54
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I didn't try, sorry.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:56
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Shouldn't the steam link perform as well with W3 as any other game and similarly, stream W3 as well as any other computer? I don't know think latency or quality should be any worse than other computers, tbh. I've played a good portion of W3 streaming it to my MacBook over air and it felt the same as playing it natively to me. Do you have to use the steam controller with a steam link? I know valve has done quite a bit of work in getting steam to recognize the ds4, xbox and other controllers so you can map their buttons to the mouse and keyboard like the steam controller. I wouldn't be surprised if that extended to the link. (fake edit: yeah theres no issue with ds4 and xbox's at the least)
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Feb 22, 2017 05:32
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Drifter posted:
It's not and anyone who thinks this should go watch whatever adolescent misery porn they think is art. The Dad Geralt route works fine for every character and tells a story and just because portions of it are happy developments doesn't make it bad.
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Feb 22, 2017 05:39
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I certainly see Ciri as Empress the right way to go. Her father has basically conqured most of the known world, and we all know that it's been a huge shitshow for ages, and a united Continent under Nilfgaard with Ciri running it would become much better and lead to a more modern society. I don't think Ciri would permit slavery to still exist, she'd put a stop of the witch hunts against mages and non-humans, and work to make society more equitable and bring in a real code of laws and not just rule by force., It may not be what she wants to do, but it's what she needs to do. Her journey enables her to become a ruler unlike any other, someone who has been in the mud and the poo poo, been everywhere, seen everything. There's a lot of historical examples of a single ruler who is enlightened and progressive to completely transform a nation from feudal warlords to modern power. Look at Peter the Great, though I think Ciri would kill way less people in her modernization.
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twistedmentat posted:I certainly see Ciri as Empress the right way to go. Her father has basically conqured most of the known world, and we all know that it's been a huge shitshow for ages, and a united Continent under Nilfgaard with Ciri running it would become much better and lead to a more modern society. I don't think Ciri would permit slavery to still exist, she'd put a stop of the witch hunts against mages and non-humans, and work to make society more equitable and bring in a real code of laws and not just rule by force., It may not be what she wants to do, but it's what she needs to do. Her journey enables her to become a ruler unlike any other, someone who has been in the mud and the poo poo, been everywhere, seen everything. There's also poo poo like Emperor Julian where he wants to do that and is murdered by his own men.
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Feb 22, 2017 06:00
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Skwirl posted:There's also poo poo like Emperor Julian where he wants to do that and is murdered by his own men. Or the Tsar who was literally on his way to emancipate the serfs when one of them assassinated him and the next Tsar made it a million times worse. Ciri can handle herself. You know Geralt and Yenn and probably Triss would be there.
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Feb 22, 2017 06:04
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If you get the bad dad ending are you still able to go back and do BnW after the game ends? Doesn't seem like that would make much sense.
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Feb 22, 2017 06:26
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Skwirl posted:There's also poo poo like Emperor Julian where he wants to do that and is murdered by his own men. Ciri, a child of the elder blood with magical powers and a Witchers training in swords, has spent most of her adult life hopping between worlds and dimensions with an Elven sage while the Wild Hunt were chasing her. I think she can handle a few Nilfgaardian nobles and their assassins.
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Bicyclops posted:It's not and anyone who thinks this should go watch whatever adolescent misery porn they think is art. The Dad Geralt route works fine for every character and tells a story and just because portions of it are happy developments doesn't make it bad. What? The good Dad Geralt route just means that she doesn't die. I don't even know what you're trying to express by equating anything to YA misery porn (what even is that)?
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Feb 22, 2017 06:35
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I don't think there is anything wrong with the Empress ending, I just dislike people slagging off the Witcheress ending for being too happy.
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Feb 22, 2017 06:49
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My only issue with the witcher ending is that you need to be kind of manipulative and not even let her learn that there's another option to get it.
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Helith posted:Ciri, a child of the elder blood with magical powers and a Witchers training in swords, has spent most of her adult life hopping between worlds and dimensions with an Elven sage while the Wild Hunt were chasing her. Julian fought on the front lines and never lost a battle.
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Feb 22, 2017 07:54
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Arcsquad12 posted:I don't think there is anything wrong with the Empress ending, I just dislike people slagging off the Witcheress ending for being too happy. But people literally call it the "good" ending, for reasons such as "they're happy now," and "it's just a happier ending."
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Feb 22, 2017 07:55
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seeing as how the ending didn't say that ciri got loving murdered by nobles and was in fact an expert statesman while also being a decent person i assume the nobles didn't murder her.
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Avalerion posted:My only issue with the witcher ending is that you need to be kind of manipulative and not even let her learn that there's another option to get it. No you don't. You just need to let Disjkstra murder Roche and friends instead.
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Feb 22, 2017 08:33
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:No you don't. You just need to let Disjkstra murder Roche and friends instead. Yeah, kinda weird how that works out. You wouldn't think they'd be dependent.
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I think, ultimately, the two Ciri endings represent Geralt's choice of what he values more, helping the common man or wanting the best for her daughter. On one hand, he'd, quite justifiedly, turn his back on a world which considered him mutant scum his whole life, and think about just himself and his family for once. On the other, he'd raise above all that, and decide that the greater good is worth sacrificing for. Both are valid for different reasons.
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Feb 22, 2017 09:20
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I don't know how you can listen to Ciri at the elf camp near the end of the game and still think Empress Ciri ending is a good choice.
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Feb 22, 2017 10:04
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But she chooses it herself if conditions allow for it. Going for the witcher ending because you think its better for her to me feels against the theme of letting her grow up and find her own path. Basically... i think its the wrong choice for her personnaly (if better for the world) too byt it should be Ciri's to make. Avalerion fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Feb 22, 2017 10:07
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The Witcher path is presented as her own choice as well. I said it before but I'd like to see a third choice that isn't either of Ciri's dad's ideas. To me Empress Ciri is the same as Witcher Ciri in that regard. Maybe the bad ending is actually it because the final epilogue card afterwards doesn't say that Ciri's dead but that she wasn't heard of again and I like to think that she went universe hopping away from her overbearing dads that have her future already envisioned for her.
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Feb 22, 2017 10:20
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She chooses that if she doesn't know there's another option or if that option does not materialize. I admit this involves some metagaming though. If you go in blind and get either ending it works in story as Geralt would not know what his choices will lead to so I'm probably just projecting too much.
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Feb 22, 2017 10:33
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Just because she goes with that option when it's presented doesn't mean she chooses it. She could just as easily feel pressured that it's her new duty. She says straight out that if she had the choice she'd like to move from place to place, not on the run, but just free. There's only one, (possibly two) endings that fit that dream.
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Feb 22, 2017 11:30
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Why doesn't she have the choice? Did they slap a dineritium ankle bracelet on her? What's stopping her from just popping off to another dimension if she wants to?
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Feb 22, 2017 12:46
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Social pressure?
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Feb 22, 2017 12:50
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Social pressure? It gets me to the gym, which frankly is a lot harder than teleporting between worlds.
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Feb 22, 2017 14:26
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My uncle works for the Nilfgardian government and he said she's pretty unhappy being Empress, so
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I agree with Palpek that a third option where she actually got to chose would be nice. I got and didnt like the Witcher ending because it condemns her to a life of dealing with lovely people people who dont actually want her help but have no other choice and she is fending for herself and could easily get backstabbed by peasants or killed by a monster that her witcher-without-witcher-mutations self couldnt handle. I like the concept of the Empress ending but I agree that it doesnt seem like something she wants to be doing. She DOES like helping people and Doing The Right Thing so I dont think being Empress is all bad, but it still doesnt seem great either.
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It's not as if she has to actually make a living through witchering. She can just use her source powers to jump into an alternate dimension's pantry. And she's not a mutant freak. She's also quick to make friends. She'd have a great time on the path.
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2house2fly posted:Why doesn't she have the choice? Did they slap a dineritium ankle bracelet on her? What's stopping her from just popping off to another dimension if she wants to?  .It's much more interesting to theorise about possible consequences of endings from the perspective that they do stick around and what this could mean to the characters. Palpek fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:It's not as if she has to actually make a living through witchering. She can just use her source powers to jump into an alternate dimension's pantry. And she's not a mutant freak. She's also quick to make friends. She'd have a great time on the path. If the games have taught me anything it's that being a Witcher is hilariously lucrative if you're good and also loot the houses of every person you know, steal peasants' belongings, and murder and skin livestock for profit. There aren't even any repercussions, she'll be fine. 
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Haha, yeah. It's fine if I don't bother negotiating for more pay. Thier toussaintois house/estate/vineyard has thousands of crowns worth of items for me to 'appropriate' haha
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Palpek posted:The game presented particular choices that are to be understood as meaningful
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Feb 22, 2017 15:54
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Heh speaking of teleports, one of my favorite momenta is when geralt is following avallach through the portal in the basement of the one house. He groans or something and then proceeds to cover his eyes with his palms while walking theough the portal
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:It gets me to the gym, which frankly is a lot harder than teleporting between worlds. Right. It's called being responsible. It happens when you grow up. Just because you didn't grow up to be what you always wanted to be as a kid doesn't make you a failure. Especially when, in two very different ways, you're one of the most powerful people on the planet. You can shrug that off or live with what life handed you. She saves many worlds by defeating the white frost at the potential cost of her own life. Maybe I'm wrong or missing something but I never got the impression the white frost is going to be destroying her world in Ciri's lifetime. Like, it could be centuries from now and everyone she knows and loves would have been long dead. It's not much of a stretch for her to think it's best to be the empress and change the world for the better because she has the chance.
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I'm really hoping the next game is essentially that supposed 5 minutes or however long where Ciri enters the portal and goes on some insane world skipping journey battling the White Frost in this weird ChronoTrigger-esque adventure. That would be rad as hell.
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