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2house2fly posted:Because people will stick to per-encounters due to hoarding tendencies, but health dwindling necessitating the need to rest anyway encourages you to toss out those per-rests either to prevent health loss or because you're going to need to rest soon anyway so why hold back. I'm not sure this is how it plays out for players. Logically, yes. But I bet in practice most players' hoarding tendencies are completely separate, and what ends up happening is that a rest feels like a complete waste because you don't actually need to replenish any abilities or spells, you just need to regain health. However, lets argue that players take the hint and start burning up per rest abilities. Now they can burn to fast, ending up with few abilities and plenty of health leftover. All you've done is created this pointless teeter-totter effect in trying to balance resting through two completely different mechanics. What do you gain using this teeter-totter? A slower game and possible backtracking if you're the player that burns supplies to fast. I've only had that situation happen a few times, but it's annoying and absolutely kills the fun of the game when it happens. It's why I'll likely not do Endless Paths at all on my new playthrough. One and done was good enough, and I'll just head straight into WM when level appropriate. Having dual mechanics determine when you rest seems needlessly complex. Resting should be a simple calculus: Does my party need to get its spells and abilities back? Press restore ability button. Mind you, I"d rather they move away completely from resting, personally. That's not in the spirit of the old IE games, so I understand why its included, but as a mechanic in general, resting should be replaced entirely.
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CottonWolf posted:Ydwin's female. Yes, you are right. I got confused with these dudes. To many yng ywd words... 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I'm really surprised they aren't letting us name our ship ourselves. You will be able to rename the ship. The Defiant is just its default name.
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User0015 posted:I'm not sure this is how it plays out for players. Logically, yes. But I bet in practice most players' hoarding tendencies are completely separate, and what ends up happening is that a rest feels like a complete waste because you don't actually need to replenish any abilities or spells, you just need to regain health. However, lets argue that players take the hint and start burning up per rest abilities. Now they can burn to fast, ending up with few abilities and plenty of health leftover. All you've done is created this pointless teeter-totter effect in trying to balance resting through two completely different mechanics. What do you gain using this teeter-totter? A slower game and possible backtracking if you're the player that burns supplies to fast. I've only had that situation happen a few times, but it's annoying and absolutely kills the fun of the game when it happens. It's why I'll likely not do Endless Paths at all on my new playthrough. One and done was good enough, and I'll just head straight into WM when level appropriate. I was so happy when they got rid of the time/combat based fatigue mechanic.
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Feb 22, 2017 20:33
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rope kid posted:You will be able to rename the ship. The Defiant is just its default name. But that's bad luck!
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Feb 22, 2017 20:34
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I'm gonna call it Titanic Mk II. It shall be unsinkable.
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Feb 22, 2017 20:36
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Hmmm well I'd love more companions so I'll cross my fingers, but 5mil doesn't seem very likely. Oh well. At least the rest of the update is good news, ship is gonna be awesome.
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mitochondritom posted:Yes, you are right. I got confused with these dudes. To many yng ywd words... On that note: Ydwin ≠ Ydwen, right? We're not talking about Saint Ydwen, right? Because that'd be a really strange choice for a companion, not the least because she's dead and all.
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Dick Burglar posted:On that note: Ydwin ≠ Ydwen, right? We're not talking about Saint Ydwen, right? Because that'd be a really strange choice for a companion, not the least because she's dead and all. Ydwin- A strange pale elf cipher from "a lot of different places". Fascinated by animancy, Ydwin spends her free time examining fresh and not-so-fresh corpses. Though she has a charming and pleasant demeanor, new acquaintances are often shocked at her intimate familiarity with death and her dispassionate affect in the face of even the most grisly scenes.
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Feb 22, 2017 20:46
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ydwin is a weirdo pale elf interested in corpses, basically an anime character
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Feb 22, 2017 20:48
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I was thinking more horror movie fan.
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Ydwin's final form is Also, rope kid, that's not an explicit denial  Edit: also, I'm considering upping my pledge from the $29 version to the $45 version, mainly because I'm terrible and want the PnP starter guide. Sell me on how that's gonna be totally rad and how I'll get to roll dice as my favorite Pillars classes in my favorite Pillars locales. Dick Burglar fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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I was like huh we already have a Pale Elf companion but apparently Aloth is a Wood Elf Who Happens To Be Pale.
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Dick Burglar posted:Also, rope kid, that's not an explicit denial Not the only one who thought that then.  Also the 45 tier has a pet. Avalerion fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Feb 22, 2017 21:00
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bongwizzard posted:I have relationships/sex in real life Quit braggin
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Dick Burglar posted:
$45 gets you an exclusive pet, which is the more important detail.
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User0015 posted:Having dual mechanics determine when you rest seems needlessly complex. Resting should be a simple calculus: Does my party need to get its spells and abilities back? Press restore ability button. How is two things complex?
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Feb 22, 2017 21:10
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OH also everyone add 20 bucks to your pledge for all the DLC imo.
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Dick Burglar posted:Sell me on how that's gonna be totally rad and how I'll get to roll dice as my favorite Pillars classes in my favorite Pillars locales.
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Chairchucker posted:$45 gets you an exclusive pet, which is the more important detail. Avalerion posted:Not the only one who thought that then. Yeah but you don't get to name it so what's the point Chairchucker posted:OH also everyone add 20 bucks to your pledge for all the DLC imo. rope kid posted:I'm having a lot of fun designing it and most of the inspiration for it comes from Burning Wheel, Ars Magica, Gumshoe, the Stormbringer RPG, and Cadwallon. You may note that none of those games have classes. My first act as mayor is to kill the whole lot of you and burn your town to cinders. Cheers. I'm 100% down for classless systems, but it's kind of weird that you'd take a game that has very discrete classes and make a tabletop version that is classless. Not to say I don't have faith that you can make a good system, I just don't understand what you're going for. Dick Burglar fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Chairchucker posted:OH also everyone add 20 bucks to your pledge for all the DLC imo. I did it. Now we only need another 900k assuming Fig funds match, so only 45k more backers upgrading. Hmm, I think I see a problem with this.
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Dick Burglar posted:Not to say I don't have faith that you can make a good system, I just don't understand what you're going for.
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The ship thing makes me very happy. Partially because no matter how tricky they were to handle in PoE, I always loved the pistols and such. Having proper cannons just makes me even happier. There's nothing better to take down an ornery god  Edit: Oh hey a good reason to add money, added my DLC too. evilmiera fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Feb 22, 2017 21:28
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i wonder if they have another update prepared fig is lit atm
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During PoE1's development I kept hoping they'd ditch the IE-style map for something more reminiscent of Storm of Zehir or Fallout 1 and 2. So glad they did that for PoE2.
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I'm most excited about being able to move from interior to interior without trudging through maps in the city
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2house2fly posted:Quit braggin Hey man, I didn't say either of them were particularly good. I firmly believe in availability of anyone with enough brains post on a forum to find themselves an crappy irl relationship, if only they tried to do.
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So I may have tripled my initial $40 pledge to get the DLC, White March soundtrack, and the painted figurines. I'm good with money management, is what I'm trying to say.
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rope kid posted:A good tabletop game. Touché. Fine, I'll put my faith in you and upgrade my pledge. And I guess pre-buy the DLC because who am I kidding, I'm gonna want to buy it anyway.
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Yeah, Obsidian's track record with DLC after New Vegas and Pillars makes me confident about plopping down an extra 20, even if from what they've said it's unlikely we'll see another full-on expansion.
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Campaign has gained about $40k in the past hour, pity it's an add-on spike and not gonna stay consistent as that'd breezily carry us to $5m by the end.
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rope kid posted:My first act as mayor is to kill the whole lot of you and burn your town to cinders. Cheers. Well, he's got my vote. Random Asshole fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Feb 22, 2017 22:27
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They should put this up on the front of the fig page: The mom shrieking gleefully always freaks me out a little.
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Dick Burglar posted:Touché. I'm sure any number of people, including moderately ambitious DMs reading this right now, could make a 3.5/Pathfinder/5E game set in Eora that would be totally fitting and appropriate. Ditch sorcerers and warlocks, use psionic warriors as a core class. Replace gnomes and halflings with orlans, orcs with aumaua, genasi with godlike. You're more than halfway there. No one needs me or anyone else at Obsidian to design what are effectively house rules.
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Diogenes of Sinope posted:So I may have tripled my initial $40 pledge to get the DLC, White March soundtrack, and the painted figurines. I'm good with money management, is what I'm trying to say. I think a lot of us can relate to this statement.
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rope kid posted:A good tabletop game. Having recently stepped into the 5e thread smelling of fresh newbie amongst veterans of the Edition Wars, all I can say is: Good Luck
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Well, they just reached the sidekick stretch goal.
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rope kid posted:I'm sure any number of people, including moderately ambitious DMs reading this right now, could make a 3.5/Pathfinder/5E game set in Eora that would be totally fitting and appropriate. Ditch sorcerers and warlocks, use psionic warriors as a core class. Replace gnomes and halflings with orlans, orcs with aumaua, genasi with godlike. You're more than halfway there. No one needs me or anyone else at Obsidian to design what are effectively house rules. That's the trick: I liked D&D 4E  I get what you mean though. I'm fine with less codify-everything design schemes. Like I said, I already upped my backing level, so I'm eager to see what you come up with. I remember you saying in the old thread that your ideal RPG would be classless--are you using this as a testbed for some of those ideas?
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User0015 posted:Having recently stepped into the 5e thread smelling of fresh newbie amongst veterans of the Edition Wars, all I can say is: Good Luck Also, I don't really give a poo poo. I've played Basic-4th and had fun campaigns in every system. I still enjoy classless more.
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2house2fly posted:How is two things complex? If you are just going to ignore everything I'm saying and the slightly important word "needlessly", then I guess my reply is as follows: "Are you seriously asking why two things is more complex than one thing?"
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