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Party Plane Jones posted:Mormons being the ones to bankroll a generation ship is probably the most accurate prediction of any future ideas for the Church. They're just a convenience plotwise (I don't even think there are any named Mormons in the books) for a group with that kind of cash. That's really what struck me to be perfectly honest. That and the fact that if there is anyone proselytizing in the asteroid belt, it would be the LDS church.
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Solkanar512 posted:That's really what struck me to be perfectly honest. That and the fact that if there is anyone proselytizing in the asteroid belt, it would be the LDS church. Utah 2
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The entire existence of the Mormon church is pretty much "We don't like you, go away" and they say "Ok, we'll go off to this wasteland."
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Yeah, they said on the podcast that going back to the RPG they wanted a "generation ship" as part of the story, and at the same time they noticed just how many buildings the Mormons had bought up in Salt Lake City. So Mormons worked both for the idea and for the wealth needed.
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VagueRant posted:Yeah, they said on the podcast that going back to the RPG they wanted a "generation ship" as part of the story, and at the same time they noticed just how many buildings the Mormons had bought up in Salt Lake City. So Mormons worked both for the idea and for the wealth needed. What podcast is this, now?
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The Churn. They talk to the two guys who wrote the books every (?) ep and the actors playing Naomi, Holden and Amos have each been on too. http://www.blastr.com/tags/churn It's all positivity because it's official to the point of being promotional (though not quite as sickeningly gushing and backpatty as Vince Gilligan's podcasts!), and it's not super in-depth (Holden's abs am i right hahahaha) but there's some interesting tidbits especially from the writers, and given the relative drought of discussion about the show online, I'm enjoying it. They also pointed out neat foreshadowing like the Protomolecule-Julie eerily reflecting things from Miller's brain at the end, like he apparently told Naomi at the start of season 2 that he dreamt of Julie saying "you belong with me"... VagueRant fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Feb 24, 2017 18:05
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Sweet, it's on iTunes I'll have to check it out.
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I like that the asteroid is named after exotic desire and basically what has happened to it is analogous to human reproduction. Proto molecule is the sperm and the space station is the egg
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Feb 24, 2017 18:14
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Is Miller the first person to bang an asteroid?
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Cojawfee posted:Is Miller the first person to bang an asteroid? Do Atari game cartridges count? Because then no.
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:I like that the asteroid is named after exotic desire and basically what has happened to it is analogous to human reproduction. Proto molecule is the sperm and the space station is the egg Nope you got it wrong. Eros is the sperm, Venus is the egg
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Feb 24, 2017 18:42
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So was that music the kid was listening to produced by Eros?
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gohmak posted:Nope you got it wrong. Eros is the sperm, Venus is the egg No, Eros is the place where the DNA of two lifeforms mixed. Venus would be the environment it grows in or whatever
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:No, Eros is the place where the DNA of two lifeforms mixed. Venus would be the environment it grows in or whatever Dude the imagery is there for you to see.
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:No, Eros is the place where the DNA of two lifeforms mixed. Venus would be the environment it grows in or whatever gohmak posted:Dude the imagery is there for you to see. Neither analogy is perfect. Both aren't bad. Eros had a kind of womb-like gestation going on, with a male entering with a bomb to connect with a female. Venus did get splooged on.
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Armilla posted:Ready to enjoy the new episode like the irredeemable nerd that I am: 
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gfarrell80 posted:Neither analogy is perfect. Both aren't bad. Eros had a kind of womb-like gestation going on, with a male entering with a bomb to connect with a female. Venus did get splooged on. Technically the metaphor for sex and fertalization occured when Julie came in contact with the proto-molecule. Mitosis is under way long before Miller arrives with the bomb. What he really does is guides the egg to the Goddess of love and beauty instead of Earth for implantation. The imagery of the crash is still a sperm meeting an egg. gohmak fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Goons, the least qualified people on the planet, argue the minutiae of fertilization ITT.
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Space Crabs posted:Goons, the least qualified people on the planet, argue the minutiae of fertilization ITT. Y'don't undastan' nuteen'. Me crush rear end to dust!
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Space Crabs posted:Goons, the least qualified people on the planet, argue the minutiae of fertilization ITT. If you have enough sex, you’ll learn the minutiae naturally? 
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gohmak posted:Y'don't undastan' nuteen'. Me crush rear end to dust! This still should be the new thread title.
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Platystemon posted:If you have enough sex, you’ll learn the minutiae naturally?  gohmak posted:Y'don't undastan' nuteen'. Me crush rear end to dust! Greatest moment in television history.
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The only thing that niggled at me and it's a minor point and all but relevant - didn't Miller only have like 12 minutes of 02 left after the rip after the ship sprayed metal all over them? And then with the communication delays they display prominently he was well over an hour breathing his own C02.
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Justin Credible posted:The only thing that niggled at me and it's a minor point and all but relevant - didn't Miller only have like 12 minutes of 02 left after the rip after the ship sprayed metal all over them? And then with the communication delays they display prominently he was well over an hour breathing his own C02. Book spoilers that are actually details that won't matter to you: in the books, he spends hours wandering around Eros, refills his oxygen at least once, and then only removes his mask because he's close to finding Julie and simply doesn't have any air left. Obviously the show has him take off his mask for a more dramatic reason.
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I think book Miller took his mask off for the same reason, actually.
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Justin Credible posted:The only thing that niggled at me and it's a minor point and all but relevant - didn't Miller only have like 12 minutes of 02 left after the rip after the ship sprayed metal all over them? And then with the communication delays they display prominently he was well over an hour breathing his own C02. One thing that niggled me was the bomb 60 second noise. If he's in a vac suit and there is a vacuum around, how is he hearing a noise the bomb is making? Did the comm in his suit have a wifi connection to the bomb detonator? Doesn't really matter but it is one of those tiny details they could have nailed somehow without overtly explaining it. It seemed like he was reacting to the bomb, not a noise over his headset.
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There's air in Eros. E: And proximity radio broadcast would make sense for vacuum rated equipment when he was outside.
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gfarrell80 posted:One thing that niggled me was the bomb 60 second noise. If he's in a vac suit and there is a vacuum around, how is he hearing a noise the bomb is making? Did the comm in his suit have a wifi connection to the bomb detonator? If I designed a nuke with a timer, I'd have it broadcast on every possible method I could manage.
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He could probably hear it through conduction via his feet. Seems like a sensible feature to have on your Special Atomic Demolition Munitions.
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"We're already $20 million space bux over budget on this countdown nuke, no way I let you spend another 500 space bux on a radio broadcast of its status." One - Mars Congressional Republic Two - Mars Congressional Republic Three...
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Number Ten Cocks posted:"We're already $20 million space bux over budget on this countdown nuke, no way I let you spend another 500 space bux on a radio broadcast of its status." You all laughed at "The Internet of Bombs" when I pitched it back in the design phase. Well now we've Impregnated Venus!
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gohmak posted:Technically the metaphor for sex and fertalization occured when Julie came in contact with the proto-molecule. Mitosis is under way long before Miller arrives with the bomb. What he really does is guides the egg to the Goddess of love and beauty instead of Earth for implantation. The imagery of the crash is still a sperm meeting an egg. Nah, it can occur at many points. Anytime one thing enters another. When Eros first entered he solar system you could say that is 'sex'. I kinda assumed the initial science team on Eros that got incinerated were also exposed to the proto molecule, so maybe they were the first ones to experience the sex metaphor? No, Miller entering Eros is a perfectly good sex metaphor too. In a way he planted a seed in Julie's revived proto-construct. And even made an emotional connection and had a sense of togetherness. That's the best kind of sex. Let's not get distracted by a simple visual of a rock hitting a planet.
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in universe the tech is big on internet-of-things, apparently the hand terminals have very little processing power, and they instead tap into the local network cloud not sure that's the greatest idea, you wanna keep some redundancy, when the network goes down everything turns into a brick
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gfarrell80 posted:Let's not get distracted by a simple visual of a rock hitting a planet. Yo momma so fat banging her was like the protomolecule its rock off on Venus.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:Yo momma bones so brittle me crush her rear end to dust! Also it's obvious that the launching of the missiles was the metaphor for birth control, the NauVoo was your buddy frank that likes to cockblock you all the time, and Naomi and Holden having sex was a metaphor for capitalism. Crushing rear end to dust is an allegory for imperialism.
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Phobophilia posted:not sure that's the greatest idea, you wanna keep some redundancy, when the network goes down everything turns into a brick This is something that the authorities might see as a feature. It's already typical for governments to shut down the internet during riots/uprisings/revolutions. It does raise the question of how Miller could keep using his terminal after leaving Ceres.
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Kassad posted:It does raise the question of how Miller could keep using his terminal after leaving Ceres. By connecting to each new location's network. His terminal isn't permanently tied to Ceres or anything. What exactly the terminal has access to varies with location and circumstances, though.
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I liked this episode, it was good. This thread is turning into Guantanamo for metaphors though.
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