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Given the cost of ammo it seems like the kind of thing you only do if you really want a machine gun and have gently caress you money.
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The "dealer sample" is a bit of fucky-fucky. They're cheaper, since they can only transfer between dealers and not private collectors, but you have to also have proof of interest in purchase/testing by a law-enforcement agency. A while back, it came out that some pissant little town (in CA, I want to say, but don't remember for sure) was putting out interest letters solely for the benefit of their dealer pal getting fun toys. Another dealer, more recently, got an interest letter and sat on it for a while before acquiring the sample. Problem is, the agency in question rescinded the letter before the transfer was finalized, so the gun is now in limbo - paid for, but can't legally be transferred to the dealer. (It appears he used the letter after being informed that it was no longer valid, so he's hosed legally as well, possibly.) Have a (really gunfappery) video of a dude shooting a handheld 7.62 minigun. Skip to 1:11 to watch him slide backwards from the recoil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5FgePpGFWA
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I thought I saw talk recently of removing the LE request requirements for "post samples" as part of some proposed ATF rule changes with the new administration. At that point it might be feasible to be a SOT from your home?  I mean, I've bought two guns from kitchen table FFLs so it's not that far fetched: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/february-17-2017-correspondence-indicates-license-can-be-issued-persons-whose-intent Flying_Crab fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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Mike-o posted:And then you also have to live in a state that allows full auto. 922(r). It's 100% bullshit garbage that won't go away due to... Proud Christian Mom posted:We're never going to dump the MG ban either because the NRA aside from from being composed of racist shitheads is also full of people with huge investments in MG parts. Also, pearl clutching over blue lives matter. The NRA and crusty old members that get wound up over guns that hold more than two bullets and have plastic furniture.
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Man, gently caress the NRA. Are there any pro-gun organizations that aren't filled with racist maniacs? The TFR/GiP of lobbying groups if you will.
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We've consistently lobbied for a cleansing nuclear death for years now. I don't think we're a big constituency. At all. And most of us have more than one DSM-V diagnosis. Other than pederasts and Anime lovers you won't find a shittier group of fucks to wipe your rear end with than GiP. And when you wipe poo poo you smear it, and god sees that and he's gonna strike you down. I'm on a weed and oxycontin fueled late night mission to find my goddamn Kindle so I can watch the latest episode of The Expanse. So hooked. It's the SciFi equivalent of heroin. I'm hooked. So pumped to find out Why EROs is moving itself and I guess the end resolution to Millers storyline. It's not even funny! I'll be back in like 50 minutes to let you pecker heads know if the episode was dope or not. ✌️ peace bitches ✌️
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my kinda ape posted:Man, gently caress the NRA. Are there any pro-gun organizations that aren't filled with racist maniacs? The TFR/GiP of lobbying groups if you will. There's a few that are openly pro-LGBT and have minority members, but I don't think there's any pro-gun organization as big as the NRA.
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my kinda ape posted:Man, gently caress the NRA. Are there any pro-gun organizations that aren't filled with racist maniacs? The TFR/GiP of lobbying groups if you will. https://www.saf.org/ But let's be honest, your "gun rights" are not at risk. As far as civil rights violations in this country go, the risk that one day you might have to get a background check before a private firearms sale is waaaay down on the list.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:We've consistently lobbied for a cleansing nuclear death for years now. I don't think we're a big constituency. At all. And most of us have more than one DSM-V diagnosis. Other than pederasts and Anime lovers you won't find a shittier group of fucks to wipe your rear end with than GiP. And when you wipe poo poo you smear it, and god sees that and he's gonna strike you down. Super dope my man. Also the scenes where Earth fires off half her nuclear arsenal with railguns is beautiful. This whole drat episode is gorgeous actually.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:https://www.saf.org/ The problem isn't that the nation will suddenly ban guns. It's that cities and states will chip away at gun rights over time. It's a long game. Cities like NYC, Chicago, DC, and Las Vegas are examples. Nevada and New York took opposite stances on this, by the way. The Nevada legislature smacked down Vegas by reiterating that cities can't trump state law, but local law enforcement still harasses people with permits openly; it's the only city I know of where concealed carry is legal but firearms instructors and writers actively recommend you don't alert law enforcement (usually they recommend you do, or leave it up to you). NY passed the Safe Act, which nibbles at the issue by doing things like: basing classification of a weapon on visual cues (it looks scary so it must be restricted...pistols can be considered assault weapons, for example), all assault weapons must be registered with the state, new magazines over 7 rounds are illegal (old 8+ rd mags are legal but can only be used to carry 7), purchasing ammunition requires a background check and you have to purchase it through an FFL, mental health checks are mandatory and if there's anything negative there you are banned from purchases for five years and any guns you own are seized by the state (due process be damned), and if you hold a CCW permit you specifically have to request that your personal information (name, address, etc) NOT be made publicly available...that was in response to this site but for some reason it's not automatic. It's also worth noting that 52 of NY's 62 counties do not support the Safe Act. Eight of the ten supporting counties are in the NYC metro and Long Island. Not particularly representative, but it doesn't need to be. Is it a gun ban? Obviously not. But is it of genuine concern? Absolutely. Some of these provisions have been employed elsewhere. Colorado has taken some anti-gun steps in recent years; they no longer recognize non-resident permits from any state and do not offer a CO non-resident permit...not a big deal, but a minor hassle which means a lot of people will pay the extra $$$ to hold permits from multiple states. They banned a lot of standard capacity magazines in a law so poorly written that Magpul, one of the largest manufacturers of magazines in the country, was technically in violation of the law simply by conducting their business (kudos to them for moving out of CO and bringing employees that wanted to go with them). We all know about California. You've got people like Bloomberg, Hillary, and Pelosi who are openly against guns...and they're all influential democrats so that inherently aligns gun owners against democrats to some degree. And Bloomberg sprinkles cash anywhere he thinks he can influence gun laws...Colorado is a prime example. So you've got people from those isolated anti-gun areas influencing state and local laws elsewhere, actively trying to chip away until it becomes commonplace. At that point they've already won, but there's a tipping point where it becomes acceptable on a national level because X states and major municipalities already have similar laws, so obviously the people have spoken, right? Either that or Bloomberg dropped enough money into the right pockets. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's literally what's been happening. Edit: Gunship video, since that's actually the thread we're in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUHCsN5nCq4 Godholio fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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While I completely agree with you, let's bring this to the gunchat thread that I'm horrible thread maker of because I'm behind by like 300 posts.
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Mike-o posted:The full auto civilian registration, the NFA registry, was frozen with the 1986 "firearm owners protection act".....sooooo you can't bring in and/or register any full auto firearm for the civilian market It's even worse than that. It hasn't been legal to import machine guns for sale to the general public since the Gun Control Act of 1968. Any machine gun that was imported between 1968 and 1986 is a dealer sample that can only be transferred between dealers & LE. However, dealers can keep pre-86 dealer samples after they go out of business and give up their license, unlike post-86 machine guns. Many machine guns that you might think were imported were actually imported as semi-autos and then converted to machine guns once in the US to get around the import law.
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i love how literally no one else is shooting, just rambone there goin ape til he gets swatted
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I bet he was feeling super cool until, you know, he got shot.
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Frosted Flake posted:Iraqi Army still hasn't figured out "cover" Maybe if we want 3rd world militaries to be any good we need to stop letting them have Call of Duty games ported over to their region
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Frosted Flake posted:Iraqi Army still hasn't figured out "cover" He ended up better off than this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un0FW367x44
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I get that a lot of these guys aren't trained but wtf?! It's common loving sense that popping out, getting someone's attention by shooting at them, and then regularly stepping out in the same exact spot over and over is basically screaming "kill me I'm a shithead!" as loud as you can
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They only die if god wants them to die, inshallah
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Frosted Flake posted:Iraqi Army still hasn't figured out "cover" like yall wouldnt have totally done that if some adult wasnt there to tell you to get behind cover
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Scratch Monkey posted:I get that a lot of these guys aren't trained but wtf?! It's common loving sense that popping out, getting someone's attention by shooting at them, and then regularly stepping out in the same exact spot over and over is basically screaming "kill me I'm a shithead!" as loud as you can "It's okay, this bulletproof vest will protect you!" *gets shot in the head*
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Scratch Monkey posted:I get that a lot of these guys aren't trained but wtf?! It's common loving sense that popping out, getting someone's attention by shooting at them, and then regularly stepping out in the same exact spot over and over is basically screaming "kill me I'm a shithead!" as loud as you can this is how theyve fought for a very long time though
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What was that book or study about how middle eastern armies are pants on head retarded and why they fight like retards? From my personal anecdotal evidence, middle eastern armies are all about who's tribe you're from or who you bribed to be an officer. Enlisted are literally cannon fodder and officers hoard all knowledge about anything, especially when they get sent to US military schools. That and from what I saw, it literally was "inshallah" about everything. Don't need tactics or cover when it's up to god when you die.
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Mike-o posted:What was that book or study about how middle eastern armies are pants on head retarded and why they fight like retards? From my personal anecdotal evidence, middle eastern armies are all about who's tribe you're from or who you bribed to be an officer. Enlisted are literally cannon fodder and officers hoard all knowledge about anything, especially when they get sent to US military schools. That and from what I saw, it literally was "inshallah" about everything. Don't need tactics or cover when it's up to god when you die. http://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars
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They sent a (not mine) sweeper to front lines against ISIS https://twitter.com/green_lemonnn/status/836550837505769473
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Hot Karl Marx posted:They sent a (not mine) sweeper to front lines against ISIS It's probably for clearing runways. But the mental image of it happily sweeping minefields is pretty funny, too.
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Technically it can sweep at least one mine.
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Well poo poo only 29 more days till mission accomplished
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It's not "why arabs lose wars" though, it's "why tinpot dictatorship armies lose wars". Like the lessons in there can be applied all over the place to armies that could threaten a coup, no dictator is going to let their army get more competent than it is loyal. Hell, look at the direction Turkey is heading in now after all the purges. Putting it down to "Arab's only value tribal ties" or whatever is on the same level as when Westmoreland said North Vietnam won the war because "Orientals don't value human life".
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In the spirit of fairness there are not many armies that would have done better against Israel in 1973 or the US in 1991.
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They actually did pretty well at the operational level in '73, at least initially. Edit: losses on both sides were something like 600 aircraft and 3500 tanks in nineteen days. Imagine what the figures would have been like if the world had gone full Clancy in the Fulda Gap. Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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Smiling Jack posted:Imagine what the figures would have been like if the world had gone full Clancy in the Fulda Gap. Something like 3 billion dead on the first day
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Something like 3 billion dead on the first day No, Clancy skips the NBC stuff
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CENTCOM getting all horned up https://twitter.com/CENTCOM/status/836573860669571072
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