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Yeah, they looked real neat on TV. The thing that bugs me about video reviews like that is probably that they feel a bit unfair. Like no poo poo, the keyboard's pretty awful and tiny. It looks about as awful as those little pocket organizer things, which was about on par with every other terrible pocket-thing with a keyboard at the time. Plus, you know, kid fingers. Like, I'm not crazy, those were marketed as kid's toys, right?
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Yeah, they were marketed and priced as kid's toys. I doubt they cost more than $200. The only good mobile keyboard back then was a Palm Handspring Treo.
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Zenostein posted:Yeah, they looked real neat on TV. That's pretty much his bit though, Ashens loves to tear into old electronics and bootleg kids toys. He has positive things to say sometimes, but he's a comedy reviewer.
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Kwyndig posted:That's pretty much his bit though, Ashens loves to tear into old electronics and bootleg kids toys. He has positive things to say sometimes, but he's a comedy reviewer. Yeah when Ashens reviews something I might want to make a nostalgia purchase of, I take his review as "this is the worst case scenario".
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Humphreys posted:These looks pretty neat: Imagine being the guys who made these and then seeing smartphones take off. Ouch.
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Kwyndig posted:That's pretty much his bit though, Ashens loves to tear into old electronics and bootleg kids toys. He has positive things to say sometimes, but he's a comedy reviewer. His older tech reviews used to be fairly informative but then he got bigger views by reviewing absolute
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I wanted a Cybiko SO loving BADLY. I pawed at the loving magazine and newspaper ads. That is, and was, my childhood dream toy.
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Intoluene posted:His older tech reviews used to be fairly informative but then he got bigger views by reviewing absolute Though then again the very first videos he did were of the absolutely poo poo POPstations, and the most recent has been him saying mostly nice things about the Atari Lynx.
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I know we have PDA chat every few pages, but posting that Ashens video made me find his video about the Casio Cassiopeia. Which reminded me of the E-125 I used to own 15-20 years ago when I was heavily into PPC's and Palm Pilots. This is one of its press images. Look how convenient it is! You don't even need to use the tray on the airplane to use it!!! 
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:I wanted a Cybiko SO loving BADLY. I pawed at the loving magazine and newspaper ads. That is, and was, my childhood dream toy. A buddy of mine wanted one so badly he actually sold a bunch of his other gadgets, collectibles, etc. in order to be able to afford it. He took an offer of $30 for his meticulously-curated childhood LEGO collection. An 18-gallon tub full to the brim, and not a single MEGA BLOK to be seen. He bought the drat thing, showed it to us at work one time, then quietly stopped talking about it.
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I was picturing him as a 13 year old until you said 'at work'.
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I had two Cybikos. You needed two to do the cool interactive features. I had a friend who had one of the color versions later, but it was the only one I ever saw. None of the features as a device were particularly interesting, but it kept my interest for some time as a kid because you could connect it to your computer to load new games and applications from the Cybiko website. The process was kind of a pain in the rear end, but they did a good job releasing new miniature games with a much higher frequency than I would expect from a free service. I believe you could also create your own applications in some way? My memory on that is fuzzy since I obviously wasn't capable of doing so as a kid. I also put a bunch of midis and grayscale pictures on mine, most of the fun of which was figuring out how to convert and load them. It felt a lot like a precursor to giving kids raspberry pi's to teach them computer science.
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JayKay posted:I know we have PDA chat every few pages, but posting that Ashens video made me find his video about the Casio Cassiopeia. Which reminded me of the E-125 I used to own 15-20 years ago when I was heavily into PPC's and Palm Pilots. Serious leg room. Assholes
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Air travel almost belongs in this thread, everything about planes are terrible. The only reason airlines still exist in their present form is international travel depends upon them for any reasonable timeframe and governments keep propping up domestic carriers. If people were willing to switch to rail and they developed a better/faster ocean liner (or were willing to go back to airships) we could ditch planes except for military uses.
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I think pretty much everyone agrees that air travel sucks rear end, but until we invent personal teleportation or sub-orbital passenger rocketflight it's the only way to travel large distances in a reasonable amount of time. Travelling economy class by rail sucks for pretty much the same reasons economy class flying does, with the added suckiness that one train getting delayed usually means all trains on the same line get delayed too. If you have the budget for it, fly business class on long haul connections. Getting a seat that converts to a bed and not having to butt elbows with other people for 10+ hours removes a large part of what makes air travel suck.
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Collateral Damage posted:If you have the budget for it, fly business class on long haul connections. Getting a seat that converts to a bed and not having to butt elbows with other people for 10+ hours removes a large part of what makes air travel suck. This is true, however, if you have the budget to do it once, you better have the budget to do it every single time, or it will absolutely ruin long-haul flights for you to go back to economy knowing what you're missing out on. I'm speaking from experience here. On topic, a while back someone posted about the 70s-era Canon 8-T calculator that could do math in hours/minutes/seconds in addition to regular base-10 math. I picked up one online and when I pulled it out of the case it had a "NORTHWEST ORIENT PILOT" sticker on the back. I thought that was kind of cool.
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JayKay posted:I know we have PDA chat every few pages, but posting that Ashens video made me find his video about the Casio Cassiopeia. Which reminded me of the E-125 I used to own 15-20 years ago when I was heavily into PPC's and Palm Pilots. The woman has the uncool thing. Use this, don't be a woman!
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JayKay posted:I know we have PDA chat every few pages, but posting that Ashens video made me find his video about the Casio Cassiopeia. Which reminded me of the E-125 I used to own 15-20 years ago when I was heavily into PPC's and Palm Pilots. I'd say they have a combined 30 minutes of battery life, tops.
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monolithburger posted:I'd say they have a combined 30 minutes of battery life, tops. Yeah, but his is probably powered by AA batteries. I love those old laptops where they hadn't yet figured out where to put the keyboard. Palm rests? gently caress you, here's crippling carpal tunnel.
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Elsa posted:The woman has the uncool thing. Use this, don't be a woman! She's probably playing Doom.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:She's probably playing
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I feel like the newspaper is more obsolete than any of the technology in that picture.
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JayKay posted:I know we have PDA chat every few pages, but posting that Ashens video made me find his video about the Casio Cassiopeia. Which reminded me of the E-125 I used to own 15-20 years ago when I was heavily into PPC's and Palm Pilots. I miss my Palm Pilot.  I mean, I have a tablet and all, but Palms were just so amazing for the size and portability.
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[Kwyndig posted:Air travel almost belongs in this thread, everything about planes are terrible. The only reason airlines still exist in their present form is international travel depends upon them for any reasonable timeframe and governments keep propping up domestic carriers. The US is so loving big that trains really aren't practical when you have to do stuff on opposites sides of the country in a reasonable amount of time.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:[ It would be great if we could get high speed rail, but every attempt gets stymied. All we've got is stuff like Amtrak and some of the plans for TGV-esque trains in the United States won't even finish phase one until most goons here have adult children.
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Trebek posted:I feel like the newspaper is more obsolete than any of the technology in that picture. Airplanes are the only place I read newspapers, and that's because they are free on the way into the plane. I'll do anything to divert my attention from the cramped lovely position I'm stuck in for a few minutes at a time.
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The longest flight I've ever done is 6.5hrs but I had no issues flying economy. I couldn't imagine doubling my fare or more just to be slightly more comfortable for a few hours 
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Samizdata posted:I miss my Palm Pilot.  although I think for me what I miss is being able to write instead of type. If I could use graffiti on a modern smart phone, that would be aces
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chitoryu12 posted:All we've got is stuff like Amtrak and some of the plans for TGV-esque trains in the United States won't even finish phase one until most goons here have adult children. I would say it might be a possibility once most goons' adult children have adult children. We can't even maintain our existing roads and bridges without deficit hawks having an aneurysm, babies being born right now might live to see it but I'd be shocked if any of us will.
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Iron Crowned posted:
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Geoj posted:I would say it might be a possibility once most goons' adult children have adult children. We can't even maintain our existing roads and bridges without deficit hawks having an aneurysm, babies being born right now might live to see it but I'd be shocked if any of us will. Seriously. The WaPo has a tool, based on a previous government census of bridge maintenance, here. Look up your community and be afraid. Be very afraid.
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robodex posted:The longest flight I've ever done is 6.5hrs but I had no issues flying economy. I couldn't imagine doubling my fare or more just to be slightly more comfortable for a few hours Not worth it really unless it's a long haul international, imo. And even then it depends on the airline and aircraft. Unless someone else is paying. But I recall hearing somewhere that really maybe only a third of first class people are actually paying to be there. The rest are upgrades etc.
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I have a cybiko. The battery is starting to leak. I should probably do something about it!
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Samizdata posted:Seriously. The WaPo has a tool, based on a previous government census of bridge maintenance, here. Look up your community and be afraid. 1.8%. All the rest of your must be living in Somalia as the national average is almost 10%.
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chitoryu12 posted:It would be great if we could get high speed rail, but every attempt gets stymied. All we've got is stuff like Amtrak and some of the plans for TGV-esque trains in the United States won't even finish phase one until most goons here have adult children. Passenger rail really doesn't play well with freight on the same tracks, *especially* high speed passenger rail. The operational characteristics of the two types of train and track are enormously different. High-speed rail requires track to be better-aligned and continuously welded, and freight beats the hell out of the rail lines; track maintenance cost on freight lines is way higher than on passenger rail. So if you try to run freight on rails built for high speed passenger rails the maintenance costs go through the roof. Also, freight schedules have a whole lot of variation, which means scheduling becomes a real problem if you want to run regularly-scheduled passenger services on the same lines. Trying to run high-speed rail on the existing rail system in the US is a non-starter; you'd at *least* need to double up on a lot of track lines. And what's the incentive? Everyone likes bitching about the legroom in coach, but I can get on a plane on Monday morning in PHL and be at work in Mesa Arizona by 10AM (and no, my employer doesn't spring for business-class on domestic flights). Even 200mph trains are slow compared to jets, and if I have limited vacation time to take the kids to Disneyworld I don't want to spend more of that time on transport than I have to. Who's going to use the high speed rail lines unless they're *way* cheaper than plane tickets? And they wouldn't be. Acela prices are frequently more expensive than plane tickets, the only reason businessmen use them is because you don't waste time at the airports going through security. But that's not an equilibrium state, if it were as popular to use them you'd wind up with more security delays. So how does Europe make it work? By barely running any freight via rails. Rail accounts for only 10% of freight-ton miles there, something like 70% of freight there moves by truck (more than double than in the US). There's a lot more movement of goods by ship there for obvious reasons as well. Europe's way more crowded than the US, so it's not easy to find a nearby rail line to put your factory next to. And Europe still hasn't ever standardized on a single rail gage; it's a lot easier to have a trainload of passengers disembark at a terminal and get on another train than it is to get 200 train cars' worth of cargo from one gage to the next. People have the impression that Europe has this magnificent rail network for moving people and things. It doesn't. They've optimized theirs for moving people, we've optimized ours for moving stuff.
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Krispy Kareem posted:1.8%. 23.3%, granted the ones that I spot checked from my home town are like maybe 10 feet long at the most and over a creek that's a few feet deep at best. Most say that they were built in the 40s though.
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evobatman posted:Airplanes are the only place I read newspapers, and that's because they are free on the way into the plane. I'll do anything to divert my attention from the cramped lovely position I'm stuck in for a few minutes at a time. I read newspapers and sip cranberry juice only when flying.
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I always found it shocking how many people order tomato juice on planes. I've never seen someone drink or order just plain tomato juice in any other situation. I had an 18 hour flight once. Well, twice. I think it was about 22 hours in one of the directions. That was probably the least enjoyable travel I've ever experienced.
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Kwyndig posted:Air travel almost belongs in this thread, everything about planes are terrible. The only reason airlines still exist in their present form is international travel depends upon them for any reasonable timeframe and governments keep propping up domestic carriers. Half a day travel time from Adelaide to Melbourne. About an hour at most for a plane. Nearly two days from Adelaide to Brisbane. 2 and a half hours by plane. Flights are about the same price as a train ticket.
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SLOSifl posted:I always found it shocking how many people order tomato juice on planes. I've never seen someone drink or order just plain tomato juice in any other situation. The dry air in airplane cabins dull your sense of sweet and salty so tomato juice tastes super rich and fruity and delicious when it otherwise is terrible. I don't touch tomato juice or V8 normally, but a tomato juice while flying is completely different.
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