SonicRulez posted:After Logan, I'd like to read some good X-23 and Comixology is having a sale. What's good? Marjorie Liu's run from 2011. Uhhh that's it.
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SonicRulez posted:After Logan, I'd like to read some good X-23 and Comixology is having a sale. What's good? If you haven't watched XMen: Evolution, you should. The first season and about half the second season suck balls, but then the show does a complete 180. I believe X-23 is introduced in season 3. She appeared first in the comics in some mini series that sucked balls. X-23 Innocence Lost and X-23: Target X tells the origin story of X-23 from the comics, but by far her best series is X-23 by Marjorie Liu. Series ran for 21 issues. X-23 was also featured in the X-Force/wolverine fest re-launch and I honestly thought it was good except for the yiffing. Besides that, almost all of X-23 on a team is bland or bad. Bendis' use of X-23 is really bad.
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Mar 3, 2017 19:04
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All new wolverine is really good
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Mar 3, 2017 19:39
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Yeah, in addition to what's been mentioned All New Wolverine is pretty good, and I personally like the most recent (i.e. non-Bendis) All New X-Men.
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Mar 3, 2017 21:19
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If you're just looking to start with the character, though, Liu's run really is the best place to begin. And it also means you get to experience sexy pseudo-big brother Gambit, which is also good and positive.
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Mar 3, 2017 21:49
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Unfortunately Daken is also involved.
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Mar 3, 2017 21:52
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Lurdiak posted:Unfortunately Daken is also involved. Yeah but if you just buzz through the actual Dark Wolverine issues in the Collision trade the X-23 side leans hard enough on 'Daken is a creep and a loser' to be okay.
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Mar 3, 2017 22:05
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RandallODim posted:Yeah but if you just buzz through the actual Dark Wolverine issues in the Collision trade the X-23 side leans hard enough on 'Daken is a creep and a loser' to be okay. Which is good because Daniel Way really wants Daken to be the most loving badass character ever. I really don't know how Way continues to get work as I don't think he's ever written anything decent.
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Mar 3, 2017 22:13
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Jason Aaron is forever my hero for drowning Daken in a puddle.
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Mar 3, 2017 22:21
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Lurdiak posted:Jason Aaron is forever my hero for drowning Daken in a puddle. Unless there have been multiple puddle drownings (which, really, there should be) that was Remender but yeah, Uncanny X-Force is definitely the best usage of Daken for emphasizing just how pathetic he actually is. notthegoatseguy posted:Which is good because Daniel Way really wants Daken to be the most loving badass character ever. I really don't know how Way continues to get work as I don't think he's ever written anything decent. It's especially bad in those few issues because it's all about him worming his way into Madripoor's underground with his stupid pheromones, which is deeply uncomfortable even without the issues themselves trying to play up Daken as cool instead of slimy.
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Mar 3, 2017 22:59
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^^^ I'm totally for LGBT representation in media, but Daken's bisexuality just came off as loving creepy and abusive.Lurdiak posted:Jason Aaron is forever my hero for drowning Daken in a puddle. Wasn't that Remender and not Aaron in Uncanny X-Force? Also did anything ever come from Daken being risen from the dead in Uncanny Avengers? I don't read monthlies anymore but am just curious.
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Mar 3, 2017 23:12
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God drat it, I always get those two mixed up. God drat it!
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Mar 3, 2017 23:13
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notthegoatseguy posted:^^^ I'm totally for LGBT representation in media, but Daken's bisexuality just came off as loving creepy and abusive.
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Mar 3, 2017 23:15
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CapnAndy posted:Ehhh, that's not really fair. Daken came off as creepy and abusive because he was creepy and abusive. The bisexuality just meant he was creepy and abusive to both genders. Considering the stereotypes bisexual people have to deal with, Daken is pretty much the least helpful kind of "representation" I could imagine, short of those two gay guys who tried to rape the Hulk at the YMCA.
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Mar 3, 2017 23:24
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notthegoatseguy posted:^^^ I'm totally for LGBT representation in media, but Daken's bisexuality just came off as loving creepy and abusive. I don't think any of the resurrected horseman have done much after that run (actually maybe Grim Reaper showed up to die again?) which is kinda nuts because they also brought back the loving Sentry with a death seed in him.
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Mar 3, 2017 23:27
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Regarding Way, the first couple volumes of his Deadpool run, especially the fight against Bullseye/Hawkee, is actually pretty good. It veers off the rails pretty badly after that, though.
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Mar 4, 2017 00:48
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Way has been on my "ugh, Avoid this writer" list since the Venom series where they just straight up did 'The Thing' for the Tsunami imprint marvel did way way back. I tried his Wolverine Origins because everyone was championing at the time but could not gel with it.
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Mar 4, 2017 17:07
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What was the Tsunami imprint? I have the trades for Venom (highlight Venom frenching Thing) but don't think thats printed under it
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Mar 4, 2017 17:42
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The first X-Force revival (the Yost run that included Necrosha) has some pretty excellent Laura moments.
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Mar 4, 2017 19:33
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Sinners Sandwich posted:What was the Tsunami imprint? I have the trades for Venom (highlight Venom frenching Thing) but don't think thats printed under it It was a short lived thing where they were trying to attract the manga crowd. They stripped it off of everything that had it in reprints muscles like this! fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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Mar 4, 2017 20:34
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muscles like this! posted:It was a short lived thing where they were trying to attract the manga crowd. Hey, at least it wasn't the Marvel Mangaverse
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Mar 4, 2017 22:00
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I dont know what I hate more about Mangaverse, owning every issue, knowing most of it by heart or New Mangaverse's existence. You will never be more pissed at putting time into a lovely series and a relauch opening up with a two page spread of the loving Hand killing almost every character in the setting, the image of a mother holding her 9 year old dead Marvel Boy or teenage Mary Jane getting poison sucked out of her by Black Cat via french kissing. The series did feature Avengers sentai, Adam Warrens Fantastic Four Evangelion parody and T'challa's sister becoming Doctor Doom and decapitating Captain America with a sword. I think thats worth the investment.
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Mar 5, 2017 01:25
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I liked livewires
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Mar 5, 2017 04:26
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I got Ms. Marvel vol 5. from the library. When it opens and a little later on there's some kind of blue "Loki Golems". Can someone fill me in on what they're about?
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Mar 5, 2017 06:52
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I think Runaways was part of the Tsunami imprint. Also wasn't that Phoenix series with the seriously seriously pervy covers part of the marvel mangaverse?
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Mar 5, 2017 07:39
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notthegoatseguy posted:If you haven't watched XMen: Evolution, you should. The first season and about half the second season suck balls, but then the show does a complete 180. I believe X-23 is introduced in season 3.
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Mar 5, 2017 08:08
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Beachcomber posted:I got Ms. Marvel vol 5. from the library. When it opens and a little later on there's some kind of blue "Loki Golems".  [Ms Marvel #12]  [Ms Marvel #16]
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Mar 5, 2017 09:06
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Sinners Sandwich posted:What was the Tsunami imprint? I have the trades for Venom (highlight Venom frenching Thing) but don't think thats printed under it It was a line to get the teens into marvel via the animoos! Including titles like: *Venom by way *Sentinel (iron giant but with everyone's favourite purple genocide robot) *Namor ('s teenage romance adventure) *Human torch (gets a job) *Runaways I think that terrible emma frost mini was a part of it too.
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Mar 5, 2017 09:45
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Ghostlight posted:Loki showed up to the high school dance, dosed everyone with truth serum until it backfired, then agreed to magically ward the school against danger. A couple of issues later looters show up during the final convergence before Secret Wars and they trigger the golems appearing. This is so much better than anything I had imagined. Welp, time to open the ol' wallet.
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Mar 5, 2017 10:33
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Beachcomber posted:This is so much better than anything I had imagined. That Ms. Marvel issue is definitely one of the best done in one stories of recent years.
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Mar 5, 2017 12:57
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Agent_grey posted:It was a line to get the teens into marvel via the animoos! Including titles like: Worked for me. Also I was under the impression the Emma Frost book was good? Never read it. Also Brian K Vagon's Mystique??
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Mar 5, 2017 12:58
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All-New Wolverine is good. So is Wolverine by Claremont and Miller, Wolverine: First Class (all-ages fun with Kitty Pryde), as well as Astonishing Spider-Man and Wolverine. X-23 by Marjorie Liu is good, the first volume is on sale. Lily Catts fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Mar 5, 2017 |
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Mar 5, 2017 13:29
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Soonmot posted:I liked livewires Livewires was great but it wasn't Mangaverse, just Adam Warren's usual style. Sinners Sandwich posted:Worked for me. Never read the former, but Vaughan's Mystique was pretty good spy-thriller stuff.
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Mar 5, 2017 14:45
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Worked for me. Worked for me too, I admit I never read the Emma frost series was just aware it got a lot of flack. Was that because of the covers? I wanna say they were by Land or Horn. It was a Greg either way. I was kinda gutted that Jason from Sentinel died in Avengers Arena but im fairly sure I'm the only one. Agent_grey fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Mar 5, 2017 |
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Mar 5, 2017 15:31
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Agent_grey posted:I was kinda gutted that Jason from Sentinel died in Avengers Arena but im fairly sure I'm the only one. No, I was too. Kid was the star of probably the best AvX tie-in then got unceremoniously whacked.
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Mar 5, 2017 15:59
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His name is Juston and I do not consider that death canon.
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Mar 5, 2017 19:41
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Huh, so it was. I guess I cant have been that choked up then. I did like the concept of a boy and his robot though, I thought Tom Skylark was going to be connected to him somehow but I got that one wrong too.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:37
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I thought Manga Spider-Man was pretty neat. Not like a-list comic, but good enough. And yeah, the Emma Frost series was a pretty decent teen drama kind of thing that was massively hurt by Greg Horn porn covers.
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Mar 6, 2017 14:56
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Endless Mike posted:And yeah, the Emma Frost series was a pretty decent teen drama kind of thing that was massively hurt by Greg Horn porn covers. redbackground fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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Mar 6, 2017 15:08
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Yeah, I was confused when I read A) that that series was 'bad' and B) that it was a mini. It and the Mystique book ran for like 25-30 issues each. As did the Elektra book that Rucka and Bendis worked on for Marvel Knights. The early aughts were a good time for Marvel's 'bad girls'.
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