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Well ok, other than me who is SCUM? Make them hammer me.
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Max posted::Mafia Dad Post: Having played a bomb before, claiming bomb was the wrong move if you really are one. Can you elaborate? Because I disagree but your logic is probably sound, knowing you. CCKeane posted:I'm rereading but you were wrong here and a further reading of AA shows him explicitly saying Lynch before. This is a bad post and I get a real tunneling vibe from it. Anomalous Amalgam posted:In defense of my life for an actual better use of it, consider the following: WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM
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Mar 9, 2017 18:37
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Pinterest Mom posted:Like, bomb makes it more likely that scum is going to not NK you, both because they know they can look elsewhere for power roles and because you always present the possibility of two townies dying in one day if suspicion does ever fall on you and they play the day right. Claiming bomb is worse than not claiming bomb until you have to, because if you happen to be NKed before claiming, then you've helped town dodge a bullet. Okay yeah that makes sense
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Mar 9, 2017 18:38
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Assume that I am SCUM. Vote me... BUT establish a player whom you also think is SCUM and make them take the hammer vote. I'd recommend BK, Max, DB or Tobbs.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:39
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I'll put myself up for tribute to hammer you if that's where it's going today.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:03
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Of course, we could have a kindly vigilante solve this problem for us.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:21
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CCKeane posted:Of course, we could have a kindly vigilante solve this problem for us. it's not a problem, I mean you get proof of me being town, and you can use my ability as a contribution instead of negative. It's still a gamble, but at least this way, town collectively has some say in how it all goes down.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:29
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I'm having trouble getting over how FF2 Keane is this game. Does anyone have an example of him not-shitposting and being town?
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Mar 9, 2017 19:35
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:I'm having trouble getting over how FF2 Keane is this game. Come at me, then.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:38
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"Keane only plays seriously when he's scum" is wrong, super frustrating, and dumb as poo poo.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:39
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I'm waiting, Tobbs, because meta cases are pretty nonsense, and I have plenty of posts here for you to review. So I'm scum or I'm not and I'm waiting for your call.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:44
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I think AA is not scum and I want to vote someone pushing him so Keane, BK, or Max or alternatively JFisk who is definitely scum.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:53
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BK or Max moreso than Keane, I think.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:53
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I'm not feeling BK.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:54
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Same.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:54
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If we aren't voting me, I think BK is a good place for a vote.
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Mar 9, 2017 19:54
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Mar 9, 2017 19:54
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I'm actually OK with BK now too that I skimmed the last few pages and I'm kinda neutral on Max too. So I guess my initial post was garbage except the vote for the TremTa idea. ##unvote ##vote TremTa
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Mar 9, 2017 19:58
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What's the thinking for Taste?
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Mar 9, 2017 19:58
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:it's not a problem, I mean you get proof of me being town, and you can use my ability as a contribution instead of negative. It's still a gamble, but at least this way, town collectively has some say in how it all goes down. I don't really follow this line of thinking. With you out in the open like this, the best case scenario is... a scum refuses to drop the hammer and everyone decides to switch to them? That feels less likely to me than just winding up with multiple dead town.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:03
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He's always scum and no one ever votes him leaving the realm meta and grudges FROM MY RECOLLECTION (not post analysis from phone ) he's posted just once dismissively about jokephase another idea I'd like to float is that this is the famed Tobbs scum game
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Mar 9, 2017 20:04
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##vote AA I really need to get better about actually dropping my vote when I've got convictions.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:07
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got some chores tonight posted:He's always scum and no one ever votes him leaving the realm meta and grudges FROM MY RECOLLECTION (not post analysis from phone ) he's posted just once dismissively about jokephase another idea I'd like to float is that this is the famed Tobbs scum game That's pretty much what he always does no matter what, but I'm sure he'll come in and call you an idiot for voting him just the same. Something about Grandi gnawing at me.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:10
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The Lord of Hats posted:##vote AA Keane did this earlier. You are a bad player. Bad player. Keane at least had some real reasoning. ##unvote ##vote The Lord of Hats
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Mar 9, 2017 20:16
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Max posted:That's pretty much what he always does no matter what, but I'm sure he'll come in and call you an idiot for voting him just the same. Yeah that's kinda the calculus I'm working on If TremTa is scum he's going to call me a retard for the rest of the game If TremTa is town, he's probably going to do the same thing So mise vote 4 him
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Mar 9, 2017 20:24
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I'm protecting my ego
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Mar 9, 2017 20:25
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I want to vote Tobbs because of this post, it really really doesn't sit well with me. He's, like, weirdly setting himself up on both sides of the argument and giving himself options to go either way.Tobbs Gnawed posted:Lynchbomb is a super great claim for scum. ##vote tobbs
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Mar 9, 2017 20:41
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##vote AA Some mod meta, I know in times past Ecco has not provided fake claims. Rather, it has been "Give me some information and I will write you a fake role PM." Reading over AA's posts, it feels exactly like that to me. The way AA just dodges, giving little scrap answers, and then finally goes "Ok so here is stuff about my role" seems like that's what happened to me. Even throwing away the mod meta bit, role claiming and then refusing to answer some imo straightforward questions about the role doesn't strike me as pro-town. The argument AA is making is that "Telling everyone I am a lynchbomb is pro town, but I am not going to talk about the rest of my role PM." It's reasonable that people are going to have questions about a claim, especially one that is kind of out of left field on D1. It's not reasonable to laugh those away if you are already willing to tell folks your role. Plus I have a hard time believing "lunchingbomb" was a phone autocorrect (my phone wants to take lynchingbomb into lynching bomb). I'll admit that is probably coloring my view some.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:47
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CCKeane posted:I'd like to see CLs follow up here. My follow up: Joke phase is over, it is time to true sleuth
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Mar 9, 2017 20:48
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Murmur Twin posted:To build on that - AA's posting seems this game looks pretty relaxed, whereas Keane's case feels suspicious to me because he seems too sure of his read for D1. MMT its statements like this that always make me think you are scum. Someone seems too sure of their read on D1? The last game we were in literally had a scum get caught from D1 reads! And what's wrong with people being confident? But, that said, I checked and you resisted that push for similar reasons so this is consistent.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:58
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:That aside, Keane could be scum. Tobbs why Keane? I see this post Tobbs Gnawed posted:I'm having trouble getting over how FF2 Keane is this game. Is that the whole basis of it or is there more?
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Mar 9, 2017 21:02
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chaoslord posted:My follow up: Then truth sleuth harder, but who is SCUM other than me?
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Mar 9, 2017 21:04
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chaoslord posted:Tobbs why Keane? I see this post That's basically all of it. As I said in FF2, Keane's scum meta and mine are basically identical. He is my scum spirit animal.
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Mar 9, 2017 21:11
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Pinterest Mom posted:I want to vote Tobbs because of this post, it really really doesn't sit well with me. He's, like, weirdly setting himself up on both sides of the argument and giving himself options to go either way. I think AA has been playing a really really bad game and saying only things that are wrong, but that doesn't mean he's scum. I should just give in and admit that I am a meta monster. I'm not feeling Max for scum this game. That fishiness that surrounds him is absent. This is so painfully obviously chores' town game that I wouldn't vote him even if he claimed Cop, got counterclaimed, and we lynched the counterclaimer who claimed cop. I've been wrong on meta calls before (loving TMM) but I was hoping someone had played with Keane when he was town and not a useless shitposter. I have played many games with Keane, and this and FF2 (where he was scum) are the only ones that I've seen this posting style.
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Mar 9, 2017 21:16
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:In defense of my life for an actual better use of it, consider the following: Anomalous Amalgam posted:Make someone you think is SCUM hammer me. Anomalous Amalgam posted:No, I'm a lunch bomb. Town can use me as a vig. I don't like this. Town using your bomb as a "weapon" against a scummy target a la dayvig is a pretty ridiculous concept if you really think about it. The only player in this game that I think is dumb enough to test it is me. Try to convince a scum to hammer you? What incentive would they have? Would a scum risk it when a no-lynch -> NK works just as well and without potentially losing a scumbro? I think not. I'm pretty sure the only logic here from your perspective AA is that it would be foolish for town to push a lynch on you given the risk involved, it doesn't actually help anyone like your "democratic dayvig" idea suggests. Now the real question is why would you position yourself in a manner to avoid being lynched so early?
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Mar 9, 2017 21:16
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:I think AA has been playing a really really bad game and saying only things that are wrong, but that doesn't mean he's scum.
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Mar 9, 2017 21:17
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Going to that length to back up chores is odd imo. Why not just say "this is so town chores, trust me" or something to that effect instead of saying "I'd still not vote chores, even if he claimed cop, was counterclaimed, we lynched the counter claimer and they flipped cop", like.... that senario doesn't paint you or chores in a town light 
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Mar 9, 2017 21:30
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Fairly certain this is town Tobbs.
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Mar 9, 2017 21:34
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Then truth sleuth harder, but who is SCUM other than me? If I were going to vote someone not you, Dick B would be my choice. Here is a sequence of posts I don't get. Keane asks for your role name. Dick Bastardly posted:drat fine question. There is absolutely no reason not to answer this if you're already willing to claim anyway.  based on a comment DB madeDick Bastardly posted:Keane is that a serious question because DONT PLAY WITH MY EMOTIONS MAN Dick Bastardly posted:Keane, your questions feel slightly too absurd to be genuine imo. So... wait. Asking you for your role name was "drat fine". Then, DB pointed out something weird about what you said, so Keane asked for a clarification. Somehow, Keane asking for that clarification caught DB off guard. And then Keane trying to clarify what you were saying (including just repeating that "drat fine" question) is too absurd? How does it go from a great question to an absurd one? I think DB caught his contradiction because he tries to play it off jokingly in a post two minutes later, quoting himself and saying Dick Bastardly posted:There I go again TAKING THINGS TOO SERIOUSLY. Just Lynch me and get it over with already.
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chaoslord posted:If I were going to vote someone not you, Dick B would be my choice. Here is a sequence of posts I don't get. This is a good catch, and I like it quite a bit.
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