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Ok I obviously suck at this game. I dunno, reading over CL it felt like he was cheerleading wrong cases and I felt like that's what I'd be doing if I were scum this game? I'm out for a little while so how about other people make some cases because I'm thoroughly rattled at this point.
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It's almost like, there is another case out there (Grandi)
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Mar 14, 2017 14:39
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With 15 players and this many town killing roles, I'm going to assume a 4 person scum team. We know for certain now that Taste really was double murdered on N1, so I'm not willing to entertain the idea that we lunch MMT. Quid is thoroughly useless, as is Hats, with Pmom taking up the rear of that category. That leaves us Stick, Keane, BK and Grandi who have actually engaged in this game. I am not a fan of how Stick and BK tried to set up what I asked of MMT yesterday as some super duper scum maneuver to get her to clear me. Grandi . . . I still think is scummy. I didn't like his reversal the other day since a lot of how he was working through his thoughts looked super manufactured. It seemed self-conscious and bad. Would vote Grandi for sure, would like to see what BK and stick have to say for themselves right now. I'm not willing to drat Keane on Meta and I like how he's been playing so far, so I'm not really willing to go down that road just yet, though I am aware that Tobbs is usually right on the money with his scum calls. Lots of people yesterday said "Wow, I like what Max had to say about Grandi" but did nothing, so it would be really wonderful if people could look there.
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Mar 14, 2017 14:51
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I don't want to trash AA too much, for they really hosed up Day 1 in terms of reads and made it supremely easy to vote for them. Looking at BK, he spends a lot of time joking around with the AA situation before voting but it's hard to read it because AA just made themselves such a huge target, it was difficult not to.BottleKnight posted:Yeah, agreed. Would vote Max, but might as well keep my vote on Tobbs. Call this OMGUS if you want but he somehow went from: BottleKnight posted:I'm not going to make any calls about Max's motivation because he's really sticking his neck out here in a way I wouldn't expect scum to do to protect a fellow scum, but at the same time it just doesn't add up to normal Max play for me. It's bizarre. To apparently being willing to vote for me the moment it looked like others had an issue with what I asked. Would probably vote BK today, but he's not at the top of my list.
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Mar 14, 2017 15:01
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I am loath to admit this, but reading back on Pmom, I think he's town.
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Mar 14, 2017 15:04
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That being said, at this moment Quid, Hats and Pmom have less posts than Ecco and we are on day 3. In fact, Quid and Hats have half as many posts as Ecco, which is really shameful. I don't have much to read from Quid and Hats, since they haven't done much of anything, but they sucketh.
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Mar 14, 2017 15:09
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I'm gonna eat breakfast but someone please come in and post something.
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Mar 14, 2017 15:11
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Max, you are wrong about me.
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Mar 14, 2017 15:38
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MMT, can you withhold the kill?
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"Hey wait a minute, over here!" One of the miners had made their way into chaoslord's office - a makeshift corner of the mine with his desk and personal things and a sign that says "4MAN" (the pun even works in Lizard tongue). This inquisitive miner was rummaging through chaoslord's things as a sentimental exercise (or maybe an act of minor looting), and had found something strange. On the wall behind the office there was a small recession, and knocking on it caused a small echo inside the stone, as if most of the wall was fake. The other miners found a way to tear it down with their picks and hammers, not noticing there was a small crank nearby which would have accomplished the same purpose. Inside this hidden chamber was a lot of gold. Coins and ingots and nuggets and chests. Way more than chaoslord ever deserved in his wages. He was stealing from the mine the whole time! No fair! We liked him! And yet it is true. chaoslord was, in actuality, a bad dude.  chaoslord, Mifta, Foreman (scum-aligned godfather), died night 2. The day continues!
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Mar 14, 2017 15:51
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Grandicap posted:Max, you are wrong about me. Prove it.
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Mar 14, 2017 15:54
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EccoRaven posted:"Hey wait a minute, over here!" loving thank god.
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Mar 14, 2017 15:54
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chaoslord posted:I like your case on the whole but I don't think the replacing out is such a big deal. Rarity does like playing scum so I have a hard time seeing her giving that up but if life is busy life is busy. Replacements are usually null tells unless it's like, meinberg. Point against Stick.
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Mar 14, 2017 15:56
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chaoslord posted:Tobbs I am interested in this post. Stickup makes a pretty good meta case on both you and MMT. You love meta and acknowledge that you believe stickup is correct. In your next post you declare MMT to be town. Why do you believe her to be town? Another instance of him agreeing with Stick chaoslord posted:Want to take a moment to And another
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Mar 14, 2017 15:59
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Max posted:Prove it. How? I mean, I could flip, that would prove it, but also be counterproductive.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:01
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Grandicap posted:How? I mean, I could flip, that would prove it, but also be counterproductive. Make an argument, scumhunt, do something.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:03
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Like we just found out CL was scum, are you looking back to see what was up with him?
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Mar 14, 2017 16:04
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This isn't some revelatory suggestion I'm making here, you've been around the block enough to know how to play this game.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:05
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I, for one, never agree with players I know to be town when playing scum
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Mar 14, 2017 16:05
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this is a stickup posted:I, for one, never agree with players I know to be town when playing scum Doesn't stop others from playing differently.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:06
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Like the fact is that BK made an argument against you and CL went out of his way to argue against it.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:06
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BK's argument was soft enough that he could easily do it without bringing down suspicion on him. It reads like he's defending you.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:07
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bk's entire argument against me was that I replaced into this game. there rest of his argument was against rarity. entertainment is the only valid reason to push a replacement just for being a replacement
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Mar 14, 2017 16:10
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Max posted:Make an argument, scumhunt, do something. This is an unfair statement. I made arguments yesterday. I am engaging in the game, I'm not going to say I'm driving content, but I am participating. I get you think I'm scum, but this mischaracterization is lovely. I doubt anything I could do would change your mind at this point.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:11
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Grandicap posted:This is an unfair statement. I made arguments yesterday. I am engaging in the game, I'm not going to say I'm driving content, but I am participating. Here, I'll make your argument for you: Max posted:Sort of. I'm still hotter on Grandi and am still getting town vibes from Tobbs at the moment. chaoslord posted:Fair enough. Wouldn't expect it to necessarily vault him to the top of your list so that's ok. If you were on CLord's scum team I think he would have had a different reaction to what I just said there. Instead it looks like I just named two town that he doesn't give a poo poo about. So in fact you may actually be town.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:13
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this is a stickup posted:bk's entire argument against me was that I replaced into this game. there rest of his argument was against rarity. Yes exactly, that's why I think CLord would have felt he could stick his neck out for you. It wasn't a very good argument and is easy to push back against. If you were town it would have been pretty easy for Clord to say nothing at all and see where it goes.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:15
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Clord also does some defending Keane d1.chaoslord posted:Tobbs why Keane? I see this post chaoslord posted:If I were going to vote someone not you, Dick B would be my choice. Here is a sequence of posts I don't get. chaoslord posted:So, to be clear, you think this sequence is not logical for Keane to pursue? He is pushing hard away from it and trying to discredit the DB case.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:15
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based on a comment DB made
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Grandicap posted:Clord also does some defending Keane d1. Yeah, I saw that too. Would vote Stick or Keane today.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:16
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Hmmm, I could see stick on the scumteam with MMT for the reasons I said yesterday, but MMT is pretty much in the clear, having killed a scum. Also, Keane was the town read I had yesterday I didn't want to share. Is this scum team hiding in the lurkers?
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Mar 14, 2017 16:19
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MMT is definitely not on the scum team since it's clear that her kill is separate from the other kill. I can see Quid or Hats being one of the other scum, but I feel like there isn't enough there to take that gamble at the moment.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:29
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Stick's around long enough to make a token defense but not to do any reads based on CLord's flip, interesting.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:46
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I was jailed again.
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Max posted:Would vote Grandi for sure, would like to see what BK and stick have to say for themselves right now. I'm not ashamed of myself, if that's what you're implying I should feel? Max posted:I don't want to trash AA too much, for they really hosed up Day 1 in terms of reads and made it supremely easy to vote for them. Looking at BK, he spends a lot of time joking around with the AA situation before voting but it's hard to read it because AA just made themselves such a huge target, it was difficult not to. It's almost like I didn't want to make a "scum defending scum" read about an unflipped player but then stickup reminded me that you could be making a "scum defending town" read for cred, which still seems pretty likely to me.
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I agree with the CL reads though. Keane hasn't really pinged me otherwise so I wouldn't vote him just for that, though I may need to reread him, but I agree with the stickup read. I was feeling better about stickup and his play but I was really confident about my rarity read and this lines up with that.
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Mar 14, 2017 17:22
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Also, agree with the lurker callout. This game will fall apart if so many people have so little posts. 
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Mar 14, 2017 17:23
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Yeah, BK, ignore that big post I made before CL's flip, I was working with incorrect info there. Based on what was happening, I feel like you are more likely to be town at the moment.
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EccoRaven posted:Come morning the miners found yet more death in their camp. First was that irascible fool chores, who died with his skull broken open with a shovel. He was a humble miner. Chaos was drilled. MMT claimed a pick, didn''t she?
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With 9 alive it takes 5 to execute.
Day 3 deadline: Wednesday, March 15th, ~11PM EDT.
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Murmur Twin posted:I am a Driller (town vigilante) and I did indeed target Fisk last night. I agree with Max/Keane that Fisk was probably double killed - the drilling in the guts was me but I don't think the pickax was. I was leaning towards drilling Max last night but switched to Fisk at the last minute. The exact opposite of what I said is true.
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Max posted:That being said, at this moment Quid, Hats and Pmom have less posts than Ecco and we are on day 3. In fact, Quid and Hats have half as many posts as Ecco, which is really shameful. Yeah, I sucketh, and have no excuse at this point for my sucketh-ing. So, today's mission: get back to more posts than Ecco, and do it with actual substantial posts! Time to go read Mr. Scum Man and see those interactions.
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EccoRaven posted:Come morning the miners found yet more death in their camp. First was that irascible fool chores, who died with his skull broken open with a shovel. He was a humble miner. Myself MMT Max The Lord of Hats Quid Grand BK Stick PMom Here is who is left. Lord of Hats is still pinging me hard, and chaos DID ask why I was feeling Hats over Quid. I don't think Max is scum because I think he'd off lurkers. I also do agree with his grand case, still. I'm comfortable treating MMT as town right now, even though HORRIBLE NIGHTLY MURDERS AHHHHHH I don't have many feelings on anybody else.
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