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Max posted:Personally, doing the math, I'm not sure we can actually let Quid live past today. If he's town he has the chance to totally gently caress us in actual lylo. We're still probably already there, but I don't want that question hanging over our heads going towards endgame. I'm on board with Quid. Quid Pmom Stick, pick two I think.
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Max posted:. . . I'm not clearing stickup? No, you arent. I thought you "cleared" two people with it, and stickup was the other, but the other was tobbs who already flipped. I don't know where my brain put stickup in the mix. Still I am a little worried that you stopped pushing me with such a light reason. I can't think of a strong scum justification for it either, it just feels incongruous with the game. I guess if you were scum, you could have thought with the ground work that I'd be an easy push in LYLO so decided to keep me around, but that feels weak as poo poo as a reason. But yeah, it still feels not right.
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Max posted:Do you people really not think about how scum might interact with each other when you read their posts? Of course I do. I just found the post in question super throwaway and think you are looking too deeply into it. Max posted:And why didn't you say anything about it when I brought it up the first time. Because it got you off of my rear end which I desperately needed to happen at the time.
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Mar 15, 2017 21:54
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We're looking at something like 3 scum left, right? So not *precisely* lylo, but not too far off of it either. If I had to pick a scumteam out of what we've got left, I think my first two picks would be Quid and PMom, with maybe Stickup in 3rd? Grandicap and BK I have a neutral read on, Max I lean pretty hard towards town, and Keane and MMT are basically confirmed town in my mind right now.
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Mar 15, 2017 21:55
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I'm imagining 3 scum left, so it is potentially mylo, if scum and MMT both hit separate town targets in the night. Still, Quid's game so far has been "Sorry, I'm here and reading" x 5 at this point. If he was town I would hope he'd have just replaced out (if he is town then I, like MMT, will be very angry with him.)
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Mar 15, 2017 21:58
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Grandicap posted:Because it got you off of my rear end which I desperately needed to happen at the time. This does not inspire confidence.
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Max posted:I'm imagining 3 scum left, so it is potentially mylo, if scum and MMT both hit separate town targets in the night. This should read, it would be mylo if we lunch town and then scum and MMT also hit separate town targets at night.
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Mar 15, 2017 21:59
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Max posted:This does not inspire confidence. Nope, but it is honest. I just told you that I don't think your reason for thinking I'm town is as rock solid as you think. That, by definition, is supposed to shake your confidence in the read. I am town, but you keep bringing it up, and everytime it makes me feel off. So instead of letting it keep happen (you have switched from actively pursuing me to actively defending me), I posted what I feel.
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Mar 15, 2017 22:01
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I like to stick to my convictions because at some point you just have to make a call. It's why I went so hard for Tobbs being town yesterday. Also, here is some quality Quid posting in some other thread from yesterday, since we lack so much of it in this thread right now: Quidthulhu posted:The switch has made me get on the Amiibo train, what have I done~
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Mar 15, 2017 22:03
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Also, I don't know if there would be 4 scum in a 15 player game with a repeatable vig (or SK), it might be 3. We should still assume the worst, but having a nightly double kill and 4 scum makes worst case scenario lylo happen too goddamn soon. D3 is 4 dead by kills and 2 dead by lynch, 9 alive, 5 to lynch.
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Mar 15, 2017 22:04
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But I think PMom is a good choice for today. I would vote Quid as well but that feels like a lurker vote and super lovely for the scums if he is.
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Mar 15, 2017 22:06
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Max posted:You are not reading my argument if you think it's based on you replacing in. you didn't even finish reading the sentence you're responding to I guess Max posted:I want to also point at Stick today as a solid lunch option as well. He was far more active Day 2 but now with CL's flip and signs point at stick, he clammed up, aside from offering fairly token defenses for himself and has offered no counter arguments. That reads like caught scum to me that doesn't want to implicate anyone else.
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Mar 15, 2017 22:35
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Max posted:Also, how has your opinion changed on Quid. it hasn't. please read the full interaction. would still vote
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Mar 15, 2017 22:37
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Max posted:Like, Stick, make an argument or scumhunt or something. Players just going "Aw shucks, y'all are dumb" is pretty passive when you have ways of actually doing something here. what? you of all people should be able to appreciate that before I make an argument, I would like to go back and look at day 1+2 with the tobbs and clord flips in mind
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Mar 15, 2017 22:39
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##vote bottleknight
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Mar 15, 2017 22:46
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this is a stickup posted:what? And that hasn't happened at all yet.
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Mar 15, 2017 22:52
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Max posted:And that hasn't happened at all yet. and it won't, until tonight, which I have stated very clearly 
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this is a stickup posted:##vote bottleknight This is the second time stickup has pasted something that I've been thinking before I could say it, which is giving him town points in my book. BottleKnight posted:I think Quid's lurking (like pretty much all lurking) is alignment-neutral and he should just replace out instead of us lunching a low-content player and getting very little content out of it except a flip. BK seems to be going through effort to move the vote off Quid. BottleKnight posted:Also, agree with the lurker callout. This game will fall apart if so many people have so little posts. I could make an argument that I would post something like this if I had an absentee teammate. Just going to put it out there - if Quid is executed today and flips scum I'm probably going to vig BK tonight.  I'd rather get rid of Quid before BK because at least BK has stuff to go back and analyze.
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BottleKnight posted:Yeah, agreed. Would vote Max, but might as well keep my vote on Tobbs. BottleKnight posted:I'm not ashamed of myself, if that's what you're implying I should feel? BottleKnight posted:I agree with the CL reads though. Keane hasn't really pinged me otherwise so I wouldn't vote him just for that, though I may need to reread him, but I agree with the stickup read. I was feeling better about stickup and his play but I was really confident about my rarity read and this lines up with that. BottleKnight posted:Also, agree with the lurker callout. This game will fall apart if so many people have so little posts. welp, I was hoping an empty vote would get some sort of response from bk, max, or hats, but I'm home and deadline is in a few hours. these are bk's last four posts, with the latest three being his only posts this game day. the sheer speed he's flipping back and forth with these reads of me, and trusting or not trusting max, is pretty suspect. I feel like he's covering his bases so he can vote either way and back it up. nice little lurker call out, but also no content from bk, and even the callout is not an original thought. looking back to when I replaced in, I lash out and hit bk with omgus. bk doubles down. if I had been killed, after a town flip all bk would need to justify his opinion is to say he based it off rarity. he's brought it up again above, probably for the same reason. I find it curious that max is fine calling me out for not posting in a 24h period, but bk's last post that isn't a token defense or 'I agree' is from 48h ago. I do acknowledge that max at least is trying to push me for a reason, but I'd like to know how max feels about bk suddenly disappearing after a string of agreement to both sides
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Mar 16, 2017 00:56
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BK or Pmom would be acceptable if Quid flips scum (who I am planning on voting.)
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Murmur Twin posted:This is the second time stickup has pasted something that I've been thinking before I could say it, which is giving him town points in my book. PS - I'm only going to be here for another hour and then will probably be out of the house until deadline - I recently just  ed for the first time in a month- I'm on a phone. - Right now Quid is legit my strongest scumread. I genuinely don't think he want to play this bad if he were town, and the most logical reason that scum killed chores was that Quid is scum and chores was going to push that case today if he were around.
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this is a stickup posted:welp, I was hoping an empty vote would get some sort of response from bk, max, or hats, but I'm home and deadline is in a few hours. these are bk's last four posts, with the latest three being his only posts this game day. Naw, I just had you in my jaws at the moment, and you had a stronger connection to CL. Let me look back on BK for a moment.
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Mar 16, 2017 00:58
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Also was shopping for food.
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Oh right, CL argued against BK's "let's kill the replacement" argument. That's why I have him further down on my priority list at the moment. I'd be willing to revisit him tomorrow if MMT hasn't murdered him already.
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Max posted:I don't want to trash AA too much, for they really hosed up Day 1 in terms of reads and made it supremely easy to vote for them. Looking at BK, he spends a lot of time joking around with the AA situation before voting but it's hard to read it because AA just made themselves such a huge target, it was difficult not to. FWIW this is what I had posted about BK prior to the CL flip. He was on my radar.
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I'll be *around* but also making dinner and hanging with my wife. I'll lay a vote down in an hour probably, sans any other amazing revelations.
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Murmur Twin posted:- I recently just oh no  did something happen?? discord.
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I miss you chortles
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EccoRaven posted:oh no (For those wondering, it's looking really likely that I start a new job dealing blackjack in a casino next week. I've been abstained for 4 weeks for a drug test but recently found out they don't care about pot. Yay!)
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this is a stickup posted:kill bottleknight
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Mar 16, 2017 01:21
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##unvote ##vote bottleknight for broken robots and broken quotes
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Mar 16, 2017 01:22
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Why not quid?
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I feel more strongly about bk, but either way is fine I guess. mmt can kill the other tonight.
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##vote Quid Blood.
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Yeah, I feel quid / want to punish him. ##vote quid
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I will vote quid, but I don't feel strongly about it.
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Yeah, I feel better about Quid than I do about a sudden swerve onto BK here. Not that his case hasn't been made, but Stick empty voting him felt kind of out of nowhere. He's since justified it, but it isn't a vote I'm comfortable switching onto.
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 Current Day 3 Votecount Quidthulhu (4): MMT, Hats, Keane, Max bottleknight (1): stickup, -stickup, stickup stickup (0): Hats, -Hats  9 alive 5 to execute. Deadline is tonight at 11PM EDT. That's in about an hour from this post. However, it is floating.
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Max posted:If he was town I imagine it wouldn't take this long to hammer him. oh welp, I was bamboozled by ecco not removing chaoslord from votefinder where it is listed as 6 to execute. I thought he was -2 this whole time ##unvote ##vote quid  kill bottleknight
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