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Slim Killington
Nov 16, 2007

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR

quote:

BIOWARE 'EVALUATING OPTIONS' FOR MASS EFFECT: ANDROMEDA CHARACTER CREATOR AND ANIMATIONS

"No promises."

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RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE
i don't believe that Bioware can do anything about the animations even if they tried but if by some miracle they do, they better keep the old animations as an option

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.




Welp, I got all the crew together. When can I start fuckin' them.


BexGu posted:

Oh they just rant out of time/hosed up making it work.

Supposedly a fix is coming, maybe, someday?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/22/bioware-evaluating-options-for-mass-effect-andromeda-character-creator-and-animations

I guess five years was too short a time.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Look at that Fuckin FACE

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
The animations don't really bother me, they're pretty funny most of the time even if they pull you out of the story.

The only question I have is how did it happen? They've made 3 of these games already.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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widespread posted:



Welp, I got all the crew together. When can I start fuckin' them.

unfortunately the only fuckable characters in me1 are the boring ones, wait until ME2 so you can start loving the good characters

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
*people in a room pitching mass effect andromeda ideas*

mass effect but its just a jpg of goatse

drink Dr Pepper actually
Oct 11, 2012

Zikan posted:

they limited the character designer so their procedural tech to generate a dad ryder that looks like you could work

It doesn't really work, though. I picked the number 9 femryder as a base, made her lighter to be more hispanic, and then made my brother one of the asian defaults (I forgot to actually customize him.) Our dad ended up being a black guy with kinda bugged-out eyes that looked like neither of us (but DID look like he was related to the number 9 base for dude ryder.)

Actually, from what I've seen of other people's dadryders, there's just a different dad mesh for each of the presets. The skin tone and eyes might change color, but I am pretty sure the head mesh doesn't.

drink Dr Pepper actually fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Mar 22, 2017

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Popete posted:

The animations don't really bother me, they're pretty funny most of the time even if they pull you out of the story.

The only question I have is how did it happen? They've made 3 of these games already.

A lot of them were probably mostly auto-generated, particularly no-name NPC's which are by far the most egregious examples.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Popete posted:

The animations don't really bother me, they're pretty funny most of the time even if they pull you out of the story.

The only question I have is how did it happen? They've made 3 of these games already.

different 'they', really

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

Zikan posted:

they limited the character designer so their procedural tech to generate a dad ryder that looks like you could work
Hadn't considered that, but still. Oh well, once I get the full version I'll tinker around and see if I can't produce a reasonable facsimile of either my female Shepard or my female Inquisitor.

BexGu posted:

Oh they just rant out of time/hosed up making it work.

Supposedly a fix is coming, maybe, someday?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/22/bioware-evaluating-options-for-mass-effect-andromeda-character-creator-and-animations
BioWare for ME3 you put in a whole ton of effort to bring us the Extended Cut free of charge and I will be mad as heck if this time round you can't even go through the motions of giving us a character creator that is at least on par with those of the previous games.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Sombrerotron posted:

BioWare for ME3 you put in a whole ton of effort to bring us the Extended Cut free of charge

They did this because of the angry mobs with torches and pitchforks throwing bricks through their windows

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Fojar38 posted:

unfortunately the only fuckable characters in me1 are the boring ones, wait until ME2 so you can start loving the good characters

That sounds as gay as my eventual FemShep/Liara fanfics

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Charles Get-Out posted:

She is a little insane and throws a tantrum about how you've figured out all of the biggest mysteries of the Protheans she has spent her life working on.

Dont forget you killed her mom

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
With great sadness: the lack of Elcor in this game is bringing me down.

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

Fojar38 posted:

They did this because of the angry mobs with torches and pitchforks throwing bricks through their windows
Yes which is why I hope there'll a lot angry mobbing about ME:A's character creator as well. Creating better animations would be very welcome too of course, but I'm not holding my breath for that because that must be a massive undertaking.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

widespread posted:

That sounds as gay as my eventual FemShep/Liara fanfics

If you want to smash digital pussies with Liara go ahead in ME1, she's really the only major lesbian romance in the original trilogy.

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE

Sombrerotron posted:

Yes which is why I hope there'll a lot angry mobbing about ME:A's character creator as well. Creating better animations would be very welcome too of course, but I'm not holding my breath for that because that must be a massive undertaking.

character creators are cool but not cool enough to wish being stalked and harassed by mentally ill manchildren upon someone

which is what was happening with ME3

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


You can't romance Liara and recruit her late at the same time, but please, make the right decision.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
On PS4 I have yet to see any weird animation errors and I am sitting pretty close to a very large TV because this game owns

Off to play some more!

Slim Killington
Nov 16, 2007

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR

drink Dr Pepper actually posted:

It doesn't really work, though. I picked the number 9 femryder as a base, made her lighter to be more hispanic, and then made my brother one of the asian defaults (I forgot to actually customize him.) Our dad ended up being a black guy with kinda bugged-out eyes that looked like neither of us (but DID look like he was related to the number 9 base for dude ryder.)

Actually, from what I've seen of other people's dadryders, there's just a different dad mesh for each of the presets. The skin tone and eyes might change color, but I am pretty sure the head mesh doesn't.

Not even the skin, but otherwise it's exactly as you described it. The DadRyder generation only really gives a poo poo about which preset you pick. I made a preset 9 and turned her as Caucasian as possible and my dad was still the preset 9 dad.

Someone on Reddit posted the exact same thing:

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

RottenK posted:

character creators are cool but not cool enough to wish being stalked and harassed by mentally ill manchildren upon someone

which is what was happening with ME3
Don't destroy my dreams~~

EDIT: If Rydad's non-default appearance is simply determined by whichever preset you choose, there's really no excuse for the limitations placed on the character creator. Boo to BioWare! Boo!!

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Slim Killington posted:

Not even the skin, but otherwise it's exactly as you described it. The DadRyder generation only really gives a poo poo about which preset you pick. I made a preset 9 and turned her as Caucasian as possible and my dad was still the preset 9 dad.

Someone on Reddit posted the exact same thing:



Easy explanation: you're mixed race

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Popete posted:

The animations don't really bother me, they're pretty funny most of the time even if they pull you out of the story.

The only question I have is how did it happen? They've made 3 of these games already.

It's a little weird, but when they moved to the new engine they seemed to get ambitious with the animations early on. We saw this in some leaked footage over a year ago; stuff like Peebee's face in the OP was originally much smoother and more complex. What someone with animation experience earlier in the thread mentioned was that this probably made poo poo too complicated to actually ship, and rather than go through and simplify them in an intelligent but time consuming manner, in the name of "optimization" they just pulled the points of articulation out of the skeletons entirely, leaving the animation that was now missing to either be auto-generated or simply filled in on the fly.

It's also possible that the team that is currently handling Mass Effect is simply not the team that handled the trilogy. Several proud Bioware employees are fans who came aboard after Mass Effect 2, and it's been five years since ME3! Any team is going to experience turn over, but the Mass Effect team went through significant leadership burnthrough as well, and even a well meaning and talented team can be squandered by bad or absent leadership.

Slim Killington
Nov 16, 2007

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR

Fojar38 posted:

Easy explanation: you're mixed race

A cutscene showing my MomRyder a little bit into the game says otherwise.

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


exquisite tea posted:

You can't romance Liara and recruit her late at the same time, but please, make the right decision.

You're right. I gotta undo Liara's research myself.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Fojar38 posted:

If you want to smash digital pussies with Liara go ahead in ME1, she's really the only major lesbian romance in the original trilogy.

Romance Liara in 1 and 2, then drop her in 3 and meet the actual human option.

Turbl
Nov 8, 2007


Urthor posted:

When does the radiation clear on Eos? Cleared that all out, but I still can't access the outer areas with lvl 3 radiation

You probably want to do more main missions. Kallo and Suvi were yelling at me to go check out Eos after I did the main mission on Voeld. I didn't but maybe that means it cleared up more.

THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.
when you out exploring and she say she got something she wanna show you in her apartment

http://i.imgur.com/N3QATin.gifv

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


lol

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Regardless of who/if you romance in ME1 it's pretty obvious the writers were expecting you'd pick the blue spacebabe as nothing about Liara's character in ME2 makes any sense if she was just an acquaintance, or worse, if you recruited her last.

Namnesor
Jun 29, 2005

Dante's allowance - $100

YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:

when you out exploring and she say she got something she wanna show you in her apartment

http://i.imgur.com/N3QATin.gifv

When you really gotta take a poo poo but the only working bathroom on the Nexus is at the other end of the station.

Svanja
Sep 19, 2009

Slim Killington posted:

Not even the skin, but otherwise it's exactly as you described it. The DadRyder generation only really gives a poo poo about which preset you pick. I made a preset 9 and turned her as Caucasian as possible and my dad was still the preset 9 dad.

Someone on Reddit posted the exact same thing:



My lily white Ryder is preset 9 as well, with a default brother, and THAT is how my dad looked, as well. I kinda yelped "what!?" when I saw him. I thought for a moment that maybe I had accidentally saved the brother as a custom preset by accident. But nope. My dad is space Laurence Fishburne.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
I've just been dismantling stuff instead of selling it, is that a bad idea? Or will I have more than enough credits from missions and selling salvage?

lalaland
Nov 8, 2012

what emotion is this

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



lalaland posted:

what emotion is this

Stroke

Svanja
Sep 19, 2009

lalaland posted:

what emotion is this

That is her Krogan face, of course! That gif spoiled me on a moment, but now I know to be ready to catch that on video for comedy.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

exquisite tea posted:

Regardless of who/if you romance in ME1 it's pretty obvious the writers were expecting you'd pick the blue spacebabe as nothing about Liara's character in ME2 makes any sense if she was just an acquaintance, or worse, if you recruited her last.

Liara's character still worked for me as a good buddy, went with Jack for the romance. Her doing her thing with Shadow Broker DLC and whatnot fits whether or not you romanced her I'd say. If that's what you mean by pick.

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Mar 23, 2017

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Welp, first gamebreaking bug encountered.

On Voeld, if you attack the Kett Labour Camp and free the prisoners before you're given the quest to do so, you can't really free them -- they just stand in their now-open cages looking sad and you can't advance. Since it's a Priority Mission, that means you can't advance the main plot.

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The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

musicals are garbage

exquisite tea posted:

Regardless of who/if you romance in ME1 it's pretty obvious the writers were expecting you'd pick the blue spacebabe as nothing about Liara's character in ME2 makes any sense if she was just an acquaintance, or worse, if you recruited her last.

Tali was always my space babe.

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