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Maggie Fletcher posted:Well to be fair, I stuck the food in her hiding place and walked away, but she ate while I was still in the room. Progress! shoot some lazors at the cat for 
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Bud K ninja sword posted:shoot some lazors at the cat for Ordering one today, will report back. She's an older cat but not so old she can't play!
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I have a cat that I was kinda fostering. He used to live with my neighbour, but then he decided to move here and I was keeping him here with me until a friend of mine would adopt him, because I got 3 other cats already. He has been here for 1 year, more or less Well he was ok, but then he got sick this week and I took him to an hospital and he was diagnosed with FIV and then later with FIP. The veterinarian says he could live with FIV, but if he really has FIP (he says we cant know for sure), he is going to die and there is nothing we can do The other cats are all healthy, but he vet says FIP is very contagious and so I should keep him away from the others. I talked to my friend and she is going to stay with him when he gets out of the hospital, but what else can we do? Just wait him die? Any advice? Should I get a second opinion? Is FIP painful for the cat? I just dont know what to do edit: he is a really sweet cat Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 18:18
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Elias_Maluco posted:I have a cat that I was kinda fostering. He used to live with my neighbour, but then he decided to move here and I was keeping him here with me until a friend of mine would adopt him, because I got 3 other cats already. He has been here for 1 year, more or less That really sucks. Your vet is telling you the right things though. If the test comes back positive I'm afraid you'll be in something of a bleak situation. Can't hurt to get a second opinion on the diagnosis though.
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Mar 23, 2017 18:24
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Elias_Maluco posted:I have a cat that I was kinda fostering. He used to live with my neighbour, but then he decided to move here and I was keeping him here with me until a friend of mine would adopt him, because I got 3 other cats already. He has been here for 1 year, more or less hey friend, this is not really a question of ethics its a question of practicality and risk management. As much as it most likely come off like the most callous dick itt, you need to get all your animals tested at this point if one of them was going full symptomatic and they regularly interact. Then start figuring out your options. better a rehomed to a FIV specialised shelter or another no pet household than potentially infecting the rest of your kittehs.
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Thank you for the answersBud K ninja sword posted:hey friend, this is not really a question of ethics its a question of practicality and risk management. As much as it most likely come off like the most callous dick itt, you need to get all your animals tested at this point if one of them was going full symptomatic and they regularly interact. Then start figuring out your options. better a rehomed to a FIV specialised shelter or another no pet household than potentially infecting the rest of your kittehs. He dont interact much with the others (they never got to be friends, which I always lamented), so I think there is a good chance nobody else is sick. But I am going to test them anyway Im still kinda shocked, he was completely normal a week ago
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Mar 23, 2017 18:33
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Elias_Maluco posted:Thank you for the answers yeah this type of thing is never easy even if everything works out magically, sorry friend 
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Mar 23, 2017 18:38
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I'd like to introduce my rescue catte : Harvey Milk He was born in the bins behind my house I lived in about three years ago. It was a kind of a crappy yard, all concrete, and there was a stack of garbage at the back, away from the door. His momcat was a stray in the neighborhood, who was related to the original cat that lived in the house before us. I guess she came back there to have her kittens because she knew it was quiet and not many humans would be around there. So she gave birth to two kittens and I just left them because we had lots of strays/ semi strays in the area and I figured someone else would end up feeding them, or they could take care of themselves or whatever. So, she had two kittens, I think it was probably her first litter? One of which Was Harvey and the other was unnamed (though he has a black spot over one eye so I kind of wanted to call him Locutus.) When they got big enough or strong enough I thought they'd leave, which the mom and Locutus did, but they left Harvey behind. The mom kept coming back and looking down at him from the wall above but he couldn't reach her, and she patently was not going to come down and get him. So after a day of listening to him crying for mom I went out with some chicken and a fast friendship was born. He bonded really strongly with me, and I guess I'm mom now. This was him a couple days after he got taken in from the garden.   He liked being a parrot when he was small.   And Snoozing, obviously.  And now he's grown into a handsome, glossy intellectual,  who likes to spend long afternoons of contemplation with his rat.  Just kidding, he's an idiot. 
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Mar 23, 2017 19:11
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Is that belly as plush as it looks? 
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Mar 23, 2017 19:42
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Other good reasons to support animal rescues/shelters: http://www.humanerescuealliance.org/blog/posts/talleyrand-takes-first-steps This is my local rescue, and so far I've adopted two cattes from them. This one finally went up for adoption, but I think she'll have a little bit of a difficult time being placed, given that she'll need treatment and care for the rest of her (hopefully) long life. If I had all the money, I would certainly consider it (although I don't think I can or should convince my wife to spring for a third catte, especially one with special needs that we can't spend most of the day with).
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Mar 23, 2017 21:59
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Oh my god look at this cat What is this expression? it's like "Bitch, please' 'Oh no you didn't' 'Yeah, sure, right, I tooooooootally believe you' I don't know how to describe it, but it's amazing
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Mar 24, 2017 06:59
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Sorry (except not) for the constant updates, but this feels like a big milestone! I wanted to see how she'd react to catnip, so I put a little in my hand and sprinkled it near her on the floor in her hiding spot. Then I kept a little in my hand and extended it to her. She let me get about 6 inches away before she started growling, but she didn't hiss! This was such big progress that I had a dream about her last night that she actually came out and hung out on the bed while I was in there, and in my dream my first thought was "I can't wait to tell the thread!"
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Mar 24, 2017 16:14
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this thread is just about as adorable as the cute one 
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Mar 24, 2017 16:22
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Tiny Deer posted:Is that belly as plush as it looks? Its actually MORE plush but he's not a fan of belly rubs. Well, he's warming up to them more as he gets older and more chill. BetterToRuleInHell posted:Oh my god look at this cat He's definitely got tonnes of personality.  Bonus dapper pics I found while looking for this one  
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Mar 24, 2017 16:28
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Southpaugh posted:Its actually MORE plush but he's not a fan of belly rubs. Well, he's warming up to them more as he gets older and more chill. "Oh... did you think this was your drawer?"
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Mar 24, 2017 16:33
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Maggie Fletcher posted:Sorry (except not) for the constant updates, I love these stories and am fascinated by the advancement of your hiding cat 
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Mar 24, 2017 16:37
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Maggie Fletcher posted:Sorry (except not) for the constant updates I am genuinely excited for the day we will finally get to see this good cat.
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Mar 24, 2017 21:00
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Good cattes need hugs all around.
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Mar 24, 2017 21:34
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Alder posted:Good cattes need hugs all around. 2 of the cats this would be ok but the other one would take pieces of my face off, and while i think a rugged manly facescar might do my head some good i am scared.
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Radio! posted:I am genuinely excited for the day we will finally get to see this good cat. Be patient--it's pretty tough. I thought we were making progress when I could peek at her and not see fear in her eyes, and she would care more about the food in my hand than the big scary person holding it, which is still probably progress. But yesterday I stuck my hand in there to retrieve a food bowl without looking and I guess I got too close (and I was waggling my fingers around; probably too aggressive), and pulled back some bloody fingers. This morning I was more careful when feeding her and she still growled a little, but I talked to her a little bit and she seemed to calm down. It's gonna be slow going, and I am a little worried that she's essentially not seen the light of day in a month, but I don't think it's getting worse. Today a thought popped into my head--how in the world am I ever going to trim her nails if I can't get near her? I'm terrified of having a vet emergency or even having to get her to the vet for routine care. If that happens, I'm going to have to call in one of the volunteers at the shelter who work with ferals--I don't think I'm qualified. All that being said, she sure is a Good Catte and I hope you get to see her soon.
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Maggie Fletcher posted:Be patient--it's pretty tough. I thought we were making progress when I could peek at her and not see fear in her eyes, and she would care more about the food in my hand than the big scary person holding it, which is still probably progress. But yesterday I stuck my hand in there to retrieve a food bowl without looking and I guess I got too close (and I was waggling my fingers around; probably too aggressive), and pulled back some bloody fingers. did you get bit or scratched? if you were bit keep an eye on things, cat bites can be nasty.
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The only mammal mouth more likely than a cat's to cause an infection is a human's. make sure you're keeping that bite clean. Also she probably comes out when you're at work.
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Jack Gladney posted:The only mammal mouth more likely than a cat's to cause an infection is a human's. do you worry about human bites often?
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Just some emergency-room trivia that has stuck with me (it wasn't a human bite). Cat bites can be serious business is what I mean to say.
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Jack Gladney posted:Just some emergency-room trivia that has stuck with me (it wasn't a human bite). Cat bites can be serious business is what I mean to say. i was just kinda like please  wasnt intended as a jab or anything this is a cool place
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Maggie Fletcher posted:Be patient--it's pretty tough. I thought we were making progress when I could peek at her and not see fear in her eyes, and she would care more about the food in my hand than the big scary person holding it, which is still probably progress. That's definitely progress. Can you do a slow blink at her and get her to respond eventually? With a somewhat similar monster, I observed that she seemed to improve faster when I took away her hiding places and made her deal with being visible. Don't know if that's recommended, though.
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Maggie Fletcher posted:Today a thought popped into my head--how in the world am I ever going to trim her nails if I can't get near her? I'm terrified of having a vet emergency or even having to get her to the vet for routine care. If that happens, I'm going to have to call in one of the volunteers at the shelter who work with ferals--I don't think I'm qualified. tbh if she's not like, destroying your house you probably don't even need to worry about nail trims. A;so here's a dude in the yospos cat thread whose cat is also too murderous to get to the vet, so he has a vet come to his house to do routine care instead. Maybe you could look into something like that? Obviously it wouldn't help in an emergency, but for routine stuff it could work. Good Catte, Good Human
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Gorgar posted:That's definitely progress. Can you do a slow blink at her and get her to respond eventually? the first part is a good thing to try, never had any good experience with the second one, you just (for me anyway) got a pissed off cat in a corner ready to kill the poo poo out of whatever approached.
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sneakyfrog posted:did you get bit or scratched? if you were bit keep an eye on things, cat bites can be nasty. Scratched. It hurt but mostly my pride was injured. Gorgar posted:That's definitely progress. Can you do a slow blink at her and get her to respond eventually? Radio! posted:tbh if she's not like, destroying your house you probably don't even need to worry about nail trims. A;so here's a dude in the yospos cat thread whose cat is also too murderous to get to the vet, so he has a vet come to his house to do routine care instead. Maybe you could look into something like that? Obviously it wouldn't help in an emergency, but for routine stuff it could work. A laser pointer is on order--I would've just gone out to buy one if I'd known it'd take so long to be delivered, but it should be here tomorrow. Maybe a few distractions will help.
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Maggie Fletcher posted:I've tried the slow blink and she doesn't respond but it does make her pupils go from "INHERENT DANGER ALERT ALERT" to "normal catte." I'm going to block off the space under the bed so if she wants to hide she has to at least do it under the dresser, which is a little more exposed. It is something I've read that can be useful, but I'm not going to force it on her right away. I get that response sometimes still. Normally my monster is mostly happy these days, but if she's worked up some fear, I can still often get her from huge eyes of "oh gently caress he's finally going to eat me" down to somewhere around normal. I guess she figures if I was going to eat her, I wouldn't screw around blinking at her, and she relaxes. So, you're communicating! That's really good. And your experiences will be different from mine, since mine only scratches as a side effect of trying to escape; she used to growl and hiss but she's only taken a swipe at me once, a few years ago. It's a good idea to have someone look at her claws now and then. Same monster tends to get ingrown claws now and then. We're at the point I can maybe trim a couple claws on a good day, but she'll freak the crap out, and I don't like to do things that make her afraid of me again. It's really nice of you to foster a difficult cat like this. Does she have any high furniture to hang out on? Mine, when feeling brave (normal these days) often likes to watch things from a safe place up high.
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Gorgar posted:I get that response sometimes still. Normally my monster is mostly happy these days, but if she's worked up some fear, I can still often get her from huge eyes of "oh gently caress he's finally going to eat me" down to somewhere around normal. I guess she figures if I was going to eat her, I wouldn't screw around blinking at her, and she relaxes. So, you're communicating! That's really good. And your experiences will be different from mine, since mine only scratches as a side effect of trying to escape; she used to growl and hiss but she's only taken a swipe at me once, a few years ago. Yep, she's got a cat tree that goes up to the ceiling but I've never seen her up there. There's a little cave halfway up that I draped a blanket over one entry, and I saw her in that once, but so far she prefers to hide. It's there when she's ready for it at least.
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Honestly the only answer is to be very patient and mostly leave her alone to sort things out herself. It's very hard to do it because your instinct is to try and help and YOU know you aren't a scary monster and if you could only communicate that to her! But really the best thing to do is to leave her be as much as possible beyond setting up a routine and associating yourself with regular nice things like food and treats. It's also hard knowing that vet care is difficult/impossible. I can't clip Peridot's claws although I'm working on training her to be more comfortable with me handling them very very slowly, but she won't let a vet near her. When I got her back after she ran away a month ago I had to trick her into a carrier and then the vet had to sedate her to be able to examine her at all because she just didn't want to know. I definitely have a higher threshhold of thinking there's something wrong with her before I take her to the vet compared to Pepper, who will let anyone do anything to her and isn't bothered much at all. It's not a great feeling but that's life and you just have to balance as best you can.
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Have you tried giving her a worn shirt or something that smells like you? I can't remember where I read this, but it can help by getting them familiar with your scent and develop a positive association.
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Blackchamber posted:Have you tried giving her a worn shirt or something that smells like you? I can't remember where I read this, but it can help by getting them familiar with your scent and develop a positive association. ive used this with dogs pretty successfully, not sure about the cattes
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I know my cats like to lay on things that smell like me, but that's after they were already bonding with me. Dunno how it would work the other way around.
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I've wondered about that. Maybe it could help? I kept the towel from the shelter she was at and she doesn't seem interested in it. Maybe I'll throw one of my old t-shirts in her hiding spot; if nothing else, it's a soft thing to lay on.
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Mar 29, 2017 16:53
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Hiding spot is good. Probably can't pee on it under the bed or dresser.
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Maggie Fletcher posted:I've wondered about that. Maybe it could help? I kept the towel from the shelter she was at and she doesn't seem interested in it. Maybe I'll throw one of my old t-shirts in her hiding spot; if nothing else, it's a soft thing to lay on. Haha yeah I'm sure the shelter was tons of good memories to associate with the smell on the towel. I took Ginny to get her shots at the humane society that I got her from and just bringing her in the place freaked her out and she didn't calm down until we left.
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Blackchamber posted:Haha yeah I'm sure the shelter was tons of good memories to associate with the smell on the towel. I took Ginny to get her shots at the humane society that I got her from and just bringing her in the place freaked her out and she didn't calm down until we left. yeah please dont use a kennel towel. Just burn that thing or keep it because you are sentimental. Just go work out and get somewhat sweaty and then use that shirt you weirdo. 
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My cat loves my husband's coat so much she probably 'wears' it more than he does. Cattes definitely respond to familiar smells!
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