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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:This comes up a lot especially around John Carpenter, where people act like for some reason he's always been this respected filmmaker. He deliberately made films in the mold of the inner-city grindhouse (best example being Big Trouble In Little China) and was treated accordingly. He had to be rehabilitated and reevaluated, just like Verhofen, Hitchcock, Wes Craven, etc. I get a laugh at ANY time a big name horror director is called a visionary or a genius nowadays when at the time, even while I was growing up, they were derided and belittled. Ridley Scott is basically going through the inverse of that phenomenon right now. At least in Nerd circles.
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McCloud posted:I don't get it, anytime you mention that maybe BvS isn't a
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Burkion posted:I get a laugh at ANY time a big name horror director is called a visionary or a genius nowadays when at the time, even while I was growing up, they were derided and belittled. Ridley Scott's business is trash and business is good.
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Mar 25, 2017 15:38
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Alien pre-sequels until he dies.
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Chieves posted:Overall, Snyder does seem really ahead of his time/ underappreciated in his own time. Blade Runner was really polarizing at it's own release as well. I've also seen more and more people coming around to recognize and appreciate Watchmen in retrospective. I have defended Sucker Punch, and will continue to do so.
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Gorn Myson posted:I've yet to watch it, but any movie that has Oscar Isaac and Carla Gugino performing "Love Is The Drug" can't be bad. I liked it, but it required a bit of effort on my behalf. It's pretty much peak Snyder, for good or ill. My point is that they shouldn't be so smug about CineD when they themselves are just as bad.
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I think theyre way worse.
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Chris Pratt basically plays Jack Burton from Big Trouble In Little China in every single movie he makes. That his entire shtick.
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Mecha Gojira posted:Alien pre-sequels until he dies. Basically, I just hope the same thing happens every time he releases another Alien movie.
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I like that the people who like Batman v Superman and Man of Steel take the time to explain why they like it. For most of this thread, people who hate those two films never elaborate "It's bad because it sucks!" then get mad when asked to go into more detail and even madder so when people start pointing out that those things never happened or did so differently.
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Chieves posted:Blade Runner was really polarizing at it's own release as well. That's not really a fair comparison. Blade Runner WAS a worse movie at its release. Or so I've heard. I haven't seen theatrical Blade Runner.
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Jimbot posted:I like that the people who like Batman v Superman and Man of Steel take the time to explain why they like it. For most of this thread, people who hate those two films never elaborate "It's bad because it sucks!" then get mad when asked to go into more detail and even madder so when people start pointing out that those things never happened or did so differently. There have been lengthy discussions about Man of Steel and why people didn't like it or what parts they had issue with. The problem is that a couple of days later someone like you says "Gee, how come no one's ever actually explained why they don't like Man of Steel?" Why bother explaining yourself when it's just going to be ignored?
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:MoS and BvS don't offer the kind of fantasies people are accustomed to in their superhero movies post-Iron Man. For example, the way Pa Kent chooses to die is such an over-the-top gesture of ethical conviction that it infuriates people to no end. It's illogical, not tactically sound, and completely trashes the conventional sense of empowerment superheroes represent. to bring up another cined redemption darling, MoS/BvS is kinda like the star wars prequels in showing that being capable of physically superhuman feats doesn't make you even remotely immune from emotional problems like how to respond to the incoming death of a loved one or being manipulated into trying to kill your father figure becoming a superhero irl wouldn't fix your own flaws as a person, if anything it would just amplify the repercussions of them and that's terrifying
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Gorn Myson posted:I've yet to watch it, but any movie that has Oscar Isaac and Carla Gugino performing "Love Is The Drug" can't be bad. I've been meaning to ask if anyone has seen any good analysis of Sucker Punch? I haven't seen it since around the time it came out, but in rewatching some YouTube clips it's super over the top but I remember there being like three layers of storylines going on at once (IIRC Mental ward -> Brothel -> Mech Fantasy World) and how what happens in one cascades into the others. It feels like it was a huge take down of traditional nerd culture (like the sexy ninja school girl kicking rear end was in reality being raped two levels of reality above and her action fantasy was her mind trying to cope with it) and the target audience who went to see boobs and explosions didn't like seeing their own perversion rubbed in their face. Accurate?
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Phylodox posted:There have been lengthy discussions about Man of Steel and why people didn't like it or what parts they had issue with. The problem is that a couple of days later someone like you says "Gee, how come no one's ever actually explained why they don't like Man of Steel?" Why bother explaining yourself when it's just going to be ignored? The explanations tend to be the most banal stuff imaginable, so one can hardly be blamed when they all blur together. I've read dozens of them and can't remember a single one properly, except for the hilariously wrong ones like how Snyder is a secret Objectivist. Last critic I saw bring it up mentioned how it didn't properly "set up" plot point leading to a sense of detachment and narrative looseness.
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Brother Entropy posted:to bring up another cined redemption darling, MoS/BvS is kinda like the star wars prequels in showing that being capable of physically superhuman feats doesn't make you even remotely immune from emotional problems like how to respond to the incoming death of a loved one or being manipulated into trying to kill your father figure It's easy to dismiss it as "deconstruction" (something comics supposedly got out of their system 20 years ago), but really, if the dominant genre is going to be superhero stuff, why not have some that actually criticize the all-powerful?
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Oh yes https://vimeo.com/210046417?ref=em-share GoldenGun fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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It's here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cxixDgHUYw
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re: the trailer, glad they finally acknowledged that Batman's superpower is being rich.
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Mar 25, 2017 16:21
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I'm hype. Opening day baby
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So good. "Just like a bat. I dig it."
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Sir Potato posted:So good. "Just like a bat. I dig it." I thought it was "You dress like a bat."
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Looks like try hard at garbage once again.
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Phylodox posted:I thought it was "You dress like a bat." Oh, no, looks like I have to watch the trailer a third time to find out. Might be. I don't really hear the "you" so maybe just, "dressed like a bat." Doesn't really change things either way, just a great line.
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Sir Potato posted:Oh, no, looks like I have to watch the trailer a third time to find out. Might be. I don't really hear the "you" so maybe just, "dressed like a bat." Doesn't really change things either way, just a great line. That's probably just the extremely contracted nature of the English language. "Y'dress like a bat. I dig it."
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Is "Like a bat" But seriously, awesome trailer. Momoa is killing it as Aquaman.
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Pretty sure he said "Like a lion", which confirms that this movie features Voltron.
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The moment when Aquaman is riding on top of the Batmobile, and he throws a smile at Batman because he knows he's about to do some goddamn sicknasty poo poo tackling parademons in the air is my everything. Goddamn that was cool.
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Gorn Myson posted:Pretty sure he said "Like a lion", which confirms that this movie features Voltron. This.
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Grem posted:Who is at 1:48? aquaman's wife, mera
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I hope they turn the brightness up, but i know they won't.
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So, did they show Barry visiting someone in prison? Are they doing the whole his dad was framed for his mom's murder thing again?
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Do we know who the black dude in the overcoat with the motherbox is during the start of the trailer is? Gave me Martian Manhunter vibes.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Do we know who the black dude in the overcoat with the motherbox is during the start of the trailer is? Gave me Martian Manhunter vibes. It's Cyborg's dad. Cyborg is made with a mother box.
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Brother Entropy posted:aquaman's wife, mera Ah, didn't catch that the dudes behind her were floating.
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I was expecting Aquaman to be dour as gently caress so him actually being an awesome surfer dude is a pleasant surprise.
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GonSmithe posted:It's Cyborg's dad. Cyborg is made with a mother box. MILES DYSON AT IT AGAIN
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Crunkjuice posted:I hope they turn the brightness up, but i know they won't. Yeah this is the one thing that I don't really like about Snydervision, everything is just these washed out and dark tones of teal, blue and grey. It's kind of tiring to watch. And he doesn't have the benefit of Larry Fong's camera eye this time around so it looks drab. Other than that, hard to say what kind of a mess it'll be, hopefully an interesting one at least.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Do we know who the black dude in the overcoat with the motherbox is during the start of the trailer is? Gave me Martian Manhunter vibes. Just want to point out that not only was Joe Morton cast as Doctor Miles Dyson, he was also cast as The Brother From Another Planet.
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