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When they were carrying Rudy on a stretcher, was he dead or just seriously injured? Either way, he'd be out of commission for the finale, but if it was made clear, I missed it.
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Tomko posted:When they were carrying Rudy on a stretcher, was he dead or just seriously injured? Either way, he'd be out of commission for the finale, but if it was made clear, I missed it. I'm pretty sure they were taking him out to the woods to bury, so I'm thinking he dead.
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I think the real issue is that while power duels look cool on comic pages or in anime where real world rules don't apply, in live action it's really hard to keep them from looking stupid. It's really hard to go full DBZ with live action without getting into Matrix Revolutions territory.
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Comics Farouk was Shadow King's host body for hundreds of years iirc. So after that much time they might refer to him/it by that name anyway.
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sticklefifer posted:I think the real issue is that while power duels look cool on comic pages or in anime where real world rules don't apply, in live action it's really hard to keep them from looking stupid. It's really hard to go full DBZ with live action without getting into Matrix Revolutions territory. That's why most people in the thread who have specified what they want said they wanted some sort of cat and mouse memory thing. It wouldn't be a straight up powers battle although it's still be difficult to do in a coherent but not lame way.
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I'm wondering what icecube's power actually was. Besides making crazy tech and diving into the astral plane?
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Grognan posted:I'm wondering what icecube's power actually was. Besides making crazy tech and diving into the astral plane? Dog-kicking. I've seen the tape.
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Grognan posted:I'm wondering what icecube's power actually was. Besides making crazy tech and diving into the astral plane? Telepathy, he read David's mind and sensed the Shadow King. I think he's also telekinetic, hence the bolero sequence. He's not on the Shadow King or David's scale obviously. His twist to his powers seems to be mental constructs like his diving suit and music but that might be more astral plane related than power related.
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Grognan posted:I'm wondering what icecube's power actually was. Besides making crazy tech and diving into the astral plane? This is totally the first thing that came to mind 
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sticklefifer posted:I think the real issue is that while power duels look cool on comic pages or in anime where real world rules don't apply, in live action it's really hard to keep them from looking stupid. It's really hard to go full DBZ with live action without getting into Matrix Revolutions territory. It's something I personally dislike a lot. Ever since the lovely 3rd X-Men movie, where it really summed it up. X2: Iceman and Pyro used crazy cool powers, doing all kinds of neat things with them. For some idea of how X2 felt to me, the scene where the all powerful Magneto wipes out a whole squad just by pulling pins.. that felt awesome. X3: Despite being near freezing water and flaming buildings, Iceman and Pyro shoot orange and blue beams at each other while making poop faces The whole "shooting beams/energy/whatever" or in this case "colliding energy" is dumb, lazy and unimaginative, all things I don't normally associate with Legion. Yes, I did eye roll a bit at it.
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sticklefifer posted:I think the real issue is that while power duels look cool on comic pages or in anime where real world rules don't apply, in live action it's really hard to keep them from looking stupid. It's really hard to go full DBZ with live action without getting into Matrix Revolutions territory. We actually got really good depiction of mental combat earlier. It was the scene where David was taunting Lenny, who couldn't speak and it ended up David strangling himself. Power-running was much worse than that.
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Is there a word for shapes made of men like that? Like the Agent Smith monster. Or the best action scene of all time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yysbbPStfWw
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Nevvy Z posted:Is there a word for shapes made of men like that? I nominate Human Topiary.
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Nevvy Z posted:Is there a word for shapes made of men like that? Legion. e: 
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jng2058 posted:I'm pretty sure they were taking him out to the woods to bury, so I'm thinking he dead. Nah, they were walking back after David's teleport and kept reassuring him while they were carrying him. I mean it's possible it was a rest in peace thing but it's probably more likely he was written off and we'll never see him again. 
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jng2058 posted:Comics Shadow King is (probably) this, a body jumping parasite for whom Farouk was only the most recent save one victim. Legion TV Shadow King? Your guess is as good as mine. Things are so far away from the comics that you can't really use them to predict a drat thing about anything. (This is a good thing, by the way.) For the TV show we just don't know enough at this stage to guess. Shadow King being something other than Farouk's alias is a retcon in the comics anyway. Even a less imaginative adaption might ignore it the same way X3 ignored all the "Jean was technically never the Phoenix" retcons.
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Shadow King better make Oliver sing the whole next season.
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Longbaugh01 posted:That's not necessarily what we meant. I for one said "crazy and visually creative." I wanted Noah Hawley's version of an Astral Plane battle as the climactic set-piece. I thought that's where it was going with Oliver leaving the room. I thought he was gettting the diving suit thinking to finish SK off in the astral plane. Only to lose and be possessed. So I was right about the outcome but thought the setup would be "better".
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Invalid Validation posted:Shadow King better make Oliver sing the whole next season. I can't imagine why they wouldn't make as much use of his brilliance as possible. I'm really hoping we get to see Pete Wisdom in this show someday. He's in a great issue of Legion and the character could fit well into this world. He's something like a mutant James Bond. I think. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Apr 2, 2017 |
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Holy gently caress, I just realized that Cary is Mr. Noodle.
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Klungar posted:Holy gently caress, I just realized that Cary is Mr. Noodle. Holy gently caress, I just realized that David is Elmo 
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He also voices TARS in Interstellar  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3PfKf0ndik
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He is also the guy who is not Robin Williams or Bobby McFerrin in this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU
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Chadzok posted:Oh and can I just say that the opening with the cooked guy and his gay husband/adopted kid was one of the most awesome things in the whole series. Felt like a nod to the Austin Powers "henchman's family" scenes. That played it as a joke though, more likely to be influenced by the"Best Man Fall" issue of The Invisibles.
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Giving us a great character in E1, removing him for the next 6 episodes, and then reintroducing him and fleshing him out is another thing I don't think I've ever seen on TV but it was totally awesome and Hoooooray for gay villains and their beautiful adopted son! Heartwarming and also lays the groundwork for "ok so maybe they aren't the bad guys... but who is?"
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He was positioned as a government man with a heart from the beginning.
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I don;t like how the last episode didn't resolve whatever happened to the eye character at all. Like why even spend most of the season on this villain if he isnt going to get screen time in the last ep?
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:I don;t like how the last episode didn't resolve whatever happened to the eye character at all. Like why even spend most of the season on this villain if he isnt going to get screen time in the last ep? Because he pretty clearly died in the second to last episode?
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:I don;t like how the last episode didn't resolve whatever happened to the eye character at all. Like why even spend most of the season on this villain if he isnt going to get screen time in the last ep? Because he was folded up and crumpled like a piece of paper and was very obviously dead in ep 7? Did you need them to show what they did with the remains or something?
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R-Type posted:After seeing her rear end saunter in that jumpsuit she wears, I gives a drat about her acting abilities. That's the real star of the show. God drat, dude. Watch porn if you are that desperate. I agree with Syd being horrible. That's the SECOND time she's tried to sabotage the team's plans in some ill thought out attempt to save David. I don't know why Melanie hasn't kicked her out or had her killed. Esp as the second time directly led to her losing Oliver again
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Blazing Ownager posted:I agree, I feel like they ran out of time and ended up with "Glowy balls running at each other" when it should have been more. That said it wasn't a terrible episode, just not up to high high standards. Yup. I liked Melanie's character, but I was hoping she died at that moment to add some drama and tension to the show. Now it's like, are there even any stakes in this show if the big bad isn't willing to kill anyone important?
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DrunkPanda posted:Yup. I liked Melanie's character, but I was hoping she died at that moment to add some drama and tension to the show. Now it's like, are there even any stakes in this show if the big bad isn't willing to kill anyone important? This "someone has to die" mentality drives me crazy. It's like TV has conditioned us to expect and demand character death to establish "stakes". whatever, Hawley don't give a gently caress about what you expect. Fargo season 2 should've made that clear. I didn't make demands on this show, or try to speculate wildly so that what happened later wasn't as cool as my imagination.
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It's not really that people have to die to establish stakes, it's more that when battling a murderous super-being who can wish you to death in 0.2 seconds you kind of expect a mortality rate higher than 0. How many people did SK+David kill when battling Division 3? 60? 100? More? How many people did SK kill when battling Summerland personnel? 2, if you're being generous. He killed The Eye (who's affiliated with D3 rather than Summerland if you want to get technical) and he killed Rudy (after The Eye already mortally wounded him). Yeah in one case he's working with David and in the other he's working against David, but still it felt like some characters had an unreasonable amount of plot armour.
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DrunkPanda posted:God drat, dude. Watch porn if you are that desperate. That whole scene was dumb it was like a conga line of people rushing in to make stupid decisions I'm not sure how dashing in randomly firing the machine gun was supposed to be helping.
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socialsecurity posted:a conga line of people rushing in to make stupid decisions
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socialsecurity posted:That whole scene was dumb it was like a conga line of people rushing in to make stupid decisions I'm not sure how dashing in randomly firing the machine gun was supposed to be helping. not a single one of these people are a trained soldier. They want to fight a war, but they don't have a clue what they're doing.
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DrunkPanda posted:I agree with Syd being horrible. That's the SECOND time she's tried to sabotage the team's plans in some ill thought out attempt to save David. I don't know why Melanie hasn't kicked her out or had her killed. Esp as the second time directly led to her losing Oliver again This is overstating it if the presumption what that David really was going to die if they kept trying to force SK out that way and soon.
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Longbaugh01 posted:This is overstating it if the presumption what that David really was going to die if they kept trying to force SK out that way and soon. Yeah, that what's that whole "have you ever tried to unmake soup?" comment SK made to Syd. He planted the seed that if they tried to force SK out of David both of them would die. Syd was absolutely convinced that David was going to die and no one was listening to her. My take is that was only part of SK's motivations for telling Syd that. The other being he lost control of David and *he* couldn't "unmake the soup" to escape either. I feel the situation was more dire for SK than it was for David. So Syd was SK's Plan B to get the gently caress out of Dodge. I think at that point, SK just wanted out to regroup and get some breathing space to come up with a plan to re-take David and all that power he craves at a later date. Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Apr 3, 2017 |
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From the reaction of like Cary, the physical state that David was in and getting worse, and the fact they were going to apply even more power to the process, it really didn't look like it was going well or going to end well. Edit: vvv I never knew I wanted this until now. Longbaugh01 fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Apr 3, 2017 |
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