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I'd never seen Pod People before, so when I watched it the other day, at first I thought maybe I picked the wrong episode and thought it was Pod People, or that Netflix had mislabeled the episode or something, seeing as the movie has no pods, let alone pod people. But then I remembered that's not at all unusual for the caliber of movies on MST3K.
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raditts posted:I'd never seen Pod People before, so when I watched it the other day, at first I thought maybe I picked the wrong episode and thought it was Pod People, or that Netflix had mislabeled the episode or something, seeing as the movie has no pods, let alone pod people. But then I remembered that's not at all unusual for the caliber of movies on MST3K. That movie's got a decidedly weird history: it was supposed to be an "alien monster kills a bunch of people" film, but E.T came out before it saw distribution and the top brass ordered the producers to add in the Trumpy B-story to try and cash in on that. It's why the whole thing feels so incredibly offputting and schizophrenic.
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raditts posted:I'd never seen Pod People before, so when I watched it the other day, at first I thought maybe I picked the wrong episode and thought it was Pod People, or that Netflix had mislabeled the episode or something, seeing as the movie has no pods, let alone pod people. But then I remembered that's not at all unusual for the caliber of movies on MST3K. Also, most movies that were given the Film Ventures International treatment got a new title along with the new credits. Sometimes the new title had as little to do with the movie as the new credits did. The wiki has more detail than you'd ever want: http://mst3k.wikia.com/wiki/Film_Ventures_International
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raditts posted:I'd never seen Pod People before, so when I watched it the other day, at first I thought maybe I picked the wrong episode and thought it was Pod People, or that Netflix had mislabeled the episode or something, seeing as the movie has no pods, let alone pod people. But then I remembered that's not at all unusual for the caliber of movies on MST3K. "You know, the dead didn't talk in this movie!"
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all-Rush mixtape posted:"You know, the dead didn't talk in this movie!" "Why, this terror isn't creeping at all, it's moving along quite nicely!"
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I think The Thing That Couldn't Die, and The Undead, are the two funniest ones I've watched so far, and I only started with season 8 because it was "newer" This is really really good. How do you guys compare joel to mike, like what's the appeal to each era?
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It's a different dynamic between the host and the bots. Joel's kind of a father figure to the bots, Mike's more of a bro. The tone is a bit less sarcastic and more whimsical with Joel than it is with Mike, though that's very generally speaking and it's not super clear cut. I have a slight preference for the Joel era, though there are great episodes in every season. The main problem with Season 8-9 is a lack of variety, as the Sci-Fi Channel required that they only riff sci-fi films. This also prevented them from doing a lot of shorts, which were one of the most fun parts of the earlier seasons. The biggest jump in quality was between Season 1 and 2, so I'd recommend going back to Season 2 and working your way forward. Or skip around, going with whatever films sound most interesting to you. The biker films and "troubled youth" films are some of my favorites, and I'd recommend Wild Rebels or I Accuse My Parents as a good episode to jump into the Joel era with. Or if you want to stick with sci-fi/horror, try The Unearthly. It's a fun movie, and one of the few episodes where you get two shorts. Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Apr 2, 2017 |
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Turtlicious posted:How do you guys compare joel to mike, like what's the appeal to each era? Early Joel Era actually spends a lot of time explaining how he eats and breathes and other science facts, especially season one. Since he built the bots himself he plays a very fatherly role with them, making them do their chores, giving them baths, reading them stories, and occasionally tinkering with them. He was definitely the more hopeful host, always trying to look on the bright side of his situation. He was also responsible for the Gizmonics Institute and thus the Invention Exchange. He made a show for adults using a children's show format. Mike is still in charge of the bots, but he doesn't have the ultimate authority over them that Joel did and it shows. He's closer to their equal and they challenge him more. He has a little bit more of a cynical edge and spends more of his time trying to escape than Joel did. While the team kept most of the show's format at first, it moved away from the "kids show for adults" over time, dropping the invention exchange and letters sections and moving to more stories in the wraparound segments.
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Tricky Ed posted:Early Joel Era actually spends a lot of time explaining how he eats and breathes and other science facts, especially season one. Since he built the bots himself he plays a very fatherly role with them, making them do their chores, giving them baths, reading them stories, and occasionally tinkering with them. He was definitely the more hopeful host, always trying to look on the bright side of his situation. He was also responsible for the Gizmonics Institute and thus the Invention Exchange. He made a show for adults using a children's show format. This is probably the best description of the two eras I've ever read. Nice.
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I really hope they bring back the invention exchange, honestly. It was one of the best parts of Joel era MST3k. Letters would be nice too, but I think those are way less likely.
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:I really hope they bring back the invention exchange, honestly. It was one of the best parts of Joel era MST3k. Letters would be nice too, but I think those are way less likely. I think the letters could come back. They kept doing them all the way up to the SciFi years. I suppose thematically it wouldn't have worked since they were in the future and all that. I don't know when the next season is supposed to take place but I'm assuming it's at least at a time when there's people on earth.
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The Ape of Naples posted:I think the letters could come back. They kept doing them all the way up to the SciFi years. I suppose thematically it wouldn't have worked since they were in the future and all that. I don't know when the next season is supposed to take place but I'm assuming it's at least at a time when there's people on earth. Well, when they're talking about it being in the future, it's not too distant. Literally each episode takes place "next Sunday, AD." That bit got all kind of messed around with the Sci-Fi era, but it doesn't pay to spend too much time dwelling on that.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:"Why, this terror isn't creeping at all, it's moving along quite nicely!" "It's not the future, and there's no war, but you know me, I don't like to complain."
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Turtlicious posted:How do you guys compare joel to mike, like what's the appeal to each era?
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One huge difference is that Mike's era tends to get a lot meaner towards the movies, a lot more vitrol and hate, more often. With the Joel era, things were a lot more relaxed and easy going. Crow in the Sci Fi era is written as angry or annoyed all the time, compared to the more lackadaisy Crow of Joel's era. The thing is though, this is deceptive. Mike and the Bots would be annoyed at movies all the time but there was rarely a moment a real anger or frustration. When Joel and the bots got angry at a movie, they got ANGRY. And it results in some of the best moments of his era. Holding back on it until it deserves to come out is beautiful. The ending of Gamera is one of those wonderful great moments where Joel just gets fed up with everything and everyone and even takes it out on the Bots, something Mike never could do.
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Caphi posted:"It's not the future, and there's no war, but you know me, I don't like to complain." *two attractive, scantily clad women tussle over a torn shirt* "The HORRORS of SPIDER ISLAND!!"
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Burkion posted:Crow in the Sci Fi era is written as angry or annoyed all the time, compared to the more lackadaisy Crow of Joel's era. This is kinda explained in the first Sci-Fi episode where Crow said he wasn't expecting Mike and the other Bots to return. He seemed to be fine living alone for 500 years.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:*two attractive, scantily clad women tussle over a torn shirt* *nothing happens for an hour* "TERROR FROM THE YEAR 5000!"
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"So....Manos." "The Hands of Fate."
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Riding with Death: "I sure hope he remembers to pick up death!" Not the title, but them mocking Agent for HARM's bombastic score as nothing interesting happens always gets me. "He maintains an appliance... BA DA BA DAAAAAA!"
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:I was just listening to some industrial/electronic music from one of my favorite artists at work, and it's something I've already listened to and am a big fan of, but I didn't realize until today that this one has a bunch of samples from Teenagers From Outer Space in it. The Emergency Broadcast Network remix of U2's "Numb" has A bit from The Sinister Urge in the beginning and the middle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8xcS4HKgNA "I'm learning a LOT about porn!"
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The relationship between Mike, Joel, and the bots is also very different. The bots respected Joel, but with Mike tons of riffs at his expense and they're all hilarious. I like Joel, but the savage riffs of the Mike era are way funnier to me. And let's face it, most of those movies deserve the hate.
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I'm a bad person but Joel's voice is just so sleepy it's hard for me not to prefer Mike's energy.
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I always looked at it like Joel was the Bots' father and he plays to that type with his "Oh you guys" moments. Mike is more their older brother and a lot of his jokes come from riffing and playing off them. PrinceRandom posted:I'm a bad person but Joel's voice is just so sleepy it's hard for me not to prefer Mike's energy. Same. I prefer Mike but Joel finally grew on me over the last few years. I think the point about seeing Joel as a host for an adults version of a children's show is spot on. To be fair, I think Mike got better movies to riff on (though the worst host segments in trade off)
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Joel's riffing style works better with the melodramas and 50's b-movies
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Im an edgy memelord and thought mike was better. Joel was never a good target for humor and the whole "aw shucks" things can get grating fast. Honestly thought the show had more comic potential if it were set in hell.
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Despera posted:Honestly thought the show had more comic potential if it were set in hell. Mystery Purgatory Theater 666! :power metal riff:
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I grew up on the Sci-Fi episodes, so I tend to prefer Mike's episodes. Joel has Pod People and Mitchell, though, and the riffs in those two are loving amazing. I like season one a lot, too, because I like seeing the show figure itself out.
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I know they're probably not going to do it, but I really enjoyed the traveling around they did in the Sci-Fi years, visiting the Planet of the Apes, The Observers, etc.
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Davros1 posted:I know they're probably not going to do it, but I really enjoyed the traveling around they did in the Sci-Fi years, visiting the Planet of the Apes, The Observers, etc. I loved the first Sci-Fi ep when, after five minutes or so of ape talk, Bobo tells Mike about this week's movie.
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The Joel years were just as sarcastic and the riffs they made called more attention to the actual production of a film instead of whining about how bad it sucked (though they did do their share of whining). Despite this, I do like the Mike seasons. The best episodes with Mike still had Trace as Crow, imo. Later Sci-fi episodes had that distasteful edgelordish quality that I need to be in the mood to handle. nishi koichi fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Apr 3, 2017 |
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Crazy Ferret posted:Mystery Purgatory Theater 666! :power metal riff: Incognito Cinema Warriors XP.
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Really looking forward to the premier. For the new season, I'm most curious to see of unique the new writing team feels. Even though members came and left during the original run of the show, it was a gradual thing and never really felt too different over a chronological viewing as a result. I wonder if the fresh team will try to mimic the feel of the riffing where the show left off, or if it's going to be a jump. Turtlicious posted:How do you guys compare joel to mike 
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For those that saw the early sneak peek they did for Patreon backers, do they bother explaining why the bots are back on the SOL instead of living in Mike's apartment like they were at the end of the series (just saying yes or no will do)?
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Larryb posted:For those that saw the early sneak peek they did for Patreon backers, do they bother explaining why the bots are back on the SOL instead of living in Mike's apartment like they were at the end of the series (just saying yes or no will do)? That sounds an awful lot like "science facts" to me, pardner
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raditts posted:That sounds an awful lot like "science facts" to me, pardner Yeah that's what I figured (though in the past they have generally given at least a one line excuse for stuff like that), no big deal just curious if it got brought up at all.
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Marin Karin posted:Not the title, but them mocking Agent for HARM's bombastic score as nothing interesting happens always gets me. It wasn't just mocking the "Agent for HARM" theme; they were actually riffing on the James Bond theme, which is understandable given that this supposed spy movie from the 1960s (during the height of Bond movie popularity) was full of boring mundane things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye8KvYKn9-0 "Joining his niece for lunch. BA-DUP DAH DAH DADADAAAAAA!" 
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Larryb posted:Yeah that's what I figured (though in the past they have generally given at least a one line excuse for stuff like that), no big deal just curious if it got brought up at all. Keep in mind that nobody has seen anything but the first episode though. It's always possible they explain it some time later.
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Alehkhs posted:Really looking forward to the premier. "Lesbians... OF THE FUTURE!"
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