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Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

Krazyface posted:

What the gently caress is the vortex, by the way? Also where is it?

Think of it like a big siphon which sucks out a load of magic. It's based in the High Elf island and it basically exists because long before Humans even existed, the Lizardmen and the High Elves needed to save the world from daemons, and the vortex was needed to reduce the amount of magic kicking around and banish the daemon army.

If the Vortex is destabilised, the world would be lousy with excess magic and daemons would be able to just invade again.

Oh, it also keeps the High Elf island afloat.

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Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Krazyface posted:

What the gently caress is the vortex, by the way? Also where is it?

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

:perfect:

pnutz
Jan 5, 2015

can we have an image reference for this thread on the front page or something? stuff like this and "that's a paddlin' grudgin'" gets lost and I can't bring it up elsewhere :(

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Kitchner posted:

Think of it like a big siphon which sucks out a load of magic. It's based in the High Elf island and it basically exists because long before Humans even existed, the Lizardmen and the High Elves needed to save the world from daemons, and the vortex was needed to reduce the amount of magic kicking around and banish the daemon army.

If the Vortex is destabilised, the world would be lousy with excess magic and daemons would be able to just invade again.

Oh, it also keeps the High Elf island afloat.

Humans existed at the time but they were all paleolithic cavemen. The beastmen came about when the warp gates exploded and let the demons in. Warp energies mixed up humans and animals and turned them into manimals.

Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

Krazyface posted:

What the gently caress is the vortex, by the way? Also where is it?

As mentioned it sucks up excess magical energy that would otherwise corrupt everything and let demons pop up all over. IIRC holding the demons off long enough for the wizards to cast the spell to create the vortex was why Aenarion took up the sword of Khaine. He had a pretty lovely choice, take the evil uber sword and use it to defeat chaos at the cost of cursing his descendants forever etc, or lose the battle, let the wizards get killed without casting the spell, and let the whole world turn into the chaos wastes.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


the whole thing sucks

Grand Prize Winner fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Apr 8, 2017

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa

Kitchner posted:

sucks out a load

ha ha

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Kitchner posted:

Think of it like a big siphon which sucks out a load of magic. It's based in the High Elf island and it basically exists because long before Humans even existed, the Lizardmen and the High Elves needed to save the world from daemons, and the vortex was needed to reduce the amount of magic kicking around and banish the daemon army.

If the Vortex is destabilised, the world would be lousy with excess magic and daemons would be able to just invade again.

Oh, it also keeps the High Elf island afloat.

For obvious reasons most wizards who know it exists would really, really love it if they could cut off a slice of that delicious delicious raw magic power currently being wasted on being shoved into oblivion, even the ones who know the vortex's purpose and fragility. It's gotta go somewhere... why not me?

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
I don't know if it's a mod I've got or if the trait system is just dumb... but how does murdering chaos and executing captives of Chaos get my Arch-Lector the "Likes Chaos" trait? That sounds like... the opposite

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Onmi posted:

I don't know if it's a mod I've got or if the trait system is just dumb... but how does murdering chaos and executing captives of Chaos get my Arch-Lector the "Likes Chaos" trait? That sounds like... the opposite

I suspect something got screwed up in the recent patch because I've had 'likes dwarfs' show up for greenskins who execute dwarfs constantly, and 'like vampires' for... you get the idea. But I've only really noticed this - at least to this extent - recently.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

John Charity Spring posted:

I suspect something got screwed up in the recent patch because I've had 'likes dwarfs' show up for greenskins who execute dwarfs constantly, and 'like vampires' for... you get the idea. But I've only really noticed this - at least to this extent - recently.

I also think it's kind of a dick move to give Unjust when executing Greenskins, Vampire Counts and Chaos.

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

Onmi posted:

I don't know if it's a mod I've got or if the trait system is just dumb... but how does murdering chaos and executing captives of Chaos get my Arch-Lector the "Likes Chaos" trait? That sounds like... the opposite

I've just viewed it as by constantly fighting against them he's grown to understand them and possibly even develop a grudging respect for them.

Like some officer fresh from the academy or whatever would hate the undead but as he fights them and learns about them he's like "Hey, who isn't tempted by the idea of immortality, am I right?"

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
they better release skaven details tomorrow or the horned rat will punish them for disregarding his most holy of days, world rat day

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

Tiler Kiwi posted:

they better release skaven details tomorrow or the horned rat will punish them for disregarding his most holy of days, world rat day

Surely the details should be released on the 13th

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

Onmi posted:

I don't know if it's a mod I've got or if the trait system is just dumb... but how does murdering chaos and executing captives of Chaos get my Arch-Lector the "Likes Chaos" trait? That sounds like... the opposite

After the battle he had a conversation with a chaos cultist that gave him sympathy for them. This gives him doubts as to the worthiness of his cause. Pathos is a bitch.

Alternatively, the trait system is just bunk. Get that mod that fixes it and makes traits appear due to logical interactions in combat and on the strategy map instead of random chance.

Also get that mod that adds AI assistance back in. Holy poo poo that's the only way Beastmen, Greenskins, and any massive two to three+ army fights on each side are playable. The ability to just select an entire army and tell them to do their own thing is invaluable.


On another note, what's the Old Friend DLC going to be? Krell? Or another hero? Skaven seems a bit much, even if they are the last big race mentioned in random events that haven't been put in yet.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Apr 3, 2017

Gejnor
Mar 14, 2005

Fun Shoe

Archonex posted:

After the battle he had a conversation with a chaos cultist that gave him sympathy for them. This gives him doubts as to the worthiness of his cause. Pathos is a bitch.

Alternatively, the trait system is just bunk. Get that mod that fixes it and makes traits appear due to logical interactions in combat and on the strategy map instead of random chance.

Also get that mod that adds AI assistance back in. Holy poo poo that's the only way Beastmen, Greenskins, and any massive two to three+ army fights on each side are playable. The ability to just select an entire army and tell them to do their own thing is invaluable.


On another note, what's the Old Friend DLC going to be? Krell? Or another hero? Skaven seems a bit much, even if they are the last big race mentioned in random events that haven't been put in yet.

You made a lot of edits!! I was just going to add in that ive been looking for the mod that does just that with the traits and i cannot seem to find it anymore :(

I would guess Old Friend is the FLC part of a DLC that contains a ton of Legendary Heroes. So stuff like Gotrek Gurnisson etc and i think like many others that Krell is the free part of it.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

Gejnor posted:

You made a lot of edits!! I was just going to add in that ive been looking for the mod that does just that with the traits and i cannot seem to find it anymore :(

I would guess Old Friend is the FLC part of a DLC that contains a ton of Legendary Heroes. So stuff like Gotrek Gurnisson etc and i think like many others that Krell is the free part of it.

Yeah, I figured it was better than double posting with a second question. :v:

Gotrek Gurnisson would be badass. Though i'd hope we get the whole lot of the characters featured in that series if so. IE: Felix Jaeger, Max Schreiber, Ulrika Straghov (Her family's fort is even a settlement in the game!), Kat, that crazy engineer that made a zeppelin, etc, etc. Gotrek was just the centerpiece.

A ____slayer novel themed DLC as the last DLC would be pretty loving awesome. Taking the most popular Warhammer Fantasy book series and making the characters be playable would be a great capstone to the primary old world content.


Edit: Looks like the mod was deleted. It hadn't been updated in awhile, though the mod maker said he'd update it once all the DLC was out. The original name was "Better Trait Triggers". Maybe check to see if there's a similar mod on the workshop with that name?

Archonex fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Apr 3, 2017

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


Adding Gotrek & Felix as a hero unit would be pointless, since to be true to the source material they would just kill everything the moment they got into contact with it.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
what else would thanquols long campaign objectives be unless it involved killing those two?

Blinks77
Feb 15, 2012

Tiler Kiwi posted:

what else would thanquols long campaign objectives be unless it involved killing those two?

It's actually an optional objective, with massive rewards.... but completely impossible if you pick Thanquol.

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene
Did they ever announce what the "old friend" was?

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

its me bitch

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

it's me austin

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Maybe it'll be Ghazghkull getting warped in to this universe/time by some weerd magiks. Why not?

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

pnutz posted:

can we have an image reference for this thread on the front page or something? stuff like this and "that's a paddlin' grudgin'" gets lost and I can't bring it up elsewhere :(

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Are we absolutely sure it's still to come, and it wasn't misunderstood and the friend was Isabella?

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

CA specifically said that Isabella was not the "old friend", so as yet we have no idea what the gently caress is going on there.

I'd like Krell but w/e.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
I hope its Empire because everyone else is rocking way more starts and unique things than them at this point.

Vamps have literally double the number of LLs they do.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

Zore posted:

I hope its Empire because everyone else is rocking way more starts and unique things than them at this point.

Vamps have literally double the number of LLs they do.

That's fair though as the vampires do not have Karl or the imperial gunline :syoon:

Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013

Zore posted:

I hope its Empire because everyone else is rocking way more starts and unique things than them at this point.

Vamps have literally double the number of LLs they do.

I'm not so sure about that, Manfredd, Ghorst, Kemmler, Vlad and Issabella are 5, the Empire has 3, Franz, Gelt and Volkmar, and if you include the Red Duke for Vamps, you should include Boris Todbringer (even if he is way lamer than the red duke) for Empire.

Although, hmmm, if you have no DLC, than yes, VC have 4 (across 2 factions) to the Empires 2, so that is double. Was this your line of thinking, or did I miss something?

Regardless, yeah, the Empire needs more poo poo.

Ammanas posted:

That's fair though as the vampires do not have Karl or the imperial gunline :syoon:

No, instead they have Vlad and Isabella.

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Stephen9001 posted:

I'm not so sure about that, Manfredd, Ghorst, Kemmler, Vlad and Issabella are 5, the Empire has 3, Franz, Gelt and Volkmar, and if you include the Red Duke for Vamps, you should include Boris Todbringer (even if he is way lamer than the red duke) for Empire.

Although, hmmm, if you have no DLC, than yes, VC have 4 (across 2 factions) to the Empires 2, so that is double. Was this your line of thinking, or did I miss something?

Regardless, yeah, the Empire needs more poo poo.

Yeah, I was going with the no DLC since Vlad and Isabella were FreeLC.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"
Which one of them rides a big fuckoff deathbird and smashes everyone's skull with a hammer again?

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

It'd be kind of weird going to a new game with the Red Duke and Toddbringet still not playable in the campaign tbh.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

I don't know why Franz holds a weapon when he's on deathclaw, under no circumstances does he actually do anything with his own weapon.

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

jokes posted:

I don't know why Franz holds a weapon when he's on deathclaw, under no circumstances does he actually do anything with his own weapon.

:aaa:

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

jokes posted:

I don't know why Franz holds a weapon when he's on deathclaw, under no circumstances does he actually do anything with his own weapon.

Holding a tiny rear end hammer is real dumb when fighting mounted tbh.

If he had a big lance or spear he could stab people and contribute and not rely totally on poor Deathclaw.

Free Cheese
Sep 16, 2005
Come on, it's free
Buglord

Grand Prize Winner posted:

OK, started doing that drunkhammer LP I talked about a while ago. Click it if you want to see a guy getting buzzed while dwarfin' out. I think next time I'll have a few before I start, because I was nowhere near drunk enough to be entertaining for the first 50 minutes or so. Maybe for the whole fuckin' thing, I don't know poo poo about LPs or youtubes or whatever.

E: the video was too long for youtube, I'll re-upload as soon as I figure out how to cut a video into two parts.

e2: guess it worked, here ya go. Be sure to tell me how much the whole thing sucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNsyOUHNBbk

I request a bretonnia lp where you chug every time you charge with cav

Turn your mic up a bit

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Zore posted:

I hope its Empire because everyone else is rocking way more starts and unique things than them at this point.

Vamps have literally double the number of LLs they do.

Vamps are the LL faction though, literally nobody else in the VC roster has a personality.

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wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


jokes posted:

I don't know why Franz holds a weapon when he's on deathclaw, under no circumstances does he actually do anything with his own weapon.

It's Ghal Maraz, you just wave it in the general direction and it does the rest.

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