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Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Loopoo posted:

What should I play as a beginner to ensure I'm not overwhelmed with so much information? And the thing is I was really confused, so I had no idea the southern counties were also at war with me because of Aella. There was lots of infighting between the southern counties so I figured I was safe, then 6000-strong armies started pouring out and wrecking me.
Ælla is æla, punk his troops and you'll be fine. Just make sure to get revocation law up first. :v:

The classic newbie start is Ireland but tbh, I was always fond of Old Gods Haraldur Hárfagri uniting Norway. Then you target Great Britain at your leisure and conquer Ireland with a single chain war and 2 stacks of tribal troops. (Just remember to declare the wars in three goes at once and pause between ending the wars and starting new ones)

Oh and have enough money to form Ireland, because those liberation revolts are a bitch and a half, haha.


Hæsteinn over in Nantes is also neat; go for Brittanny and Cornwall, then prepare an invasion against the Karlings.

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Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

yo everyone: my friend, forums poster littleorv, is too much of a little bitch to ask this question so i'm doing it for him. what are the good EU4 DLCs?

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

VostokProgram posted:

yo everyone: my friend, forums poster littleorv, is too much of a little bitch to ask this question so i'm doing it for him. what are the good EU4 DLCs?

i'll loving kill you

Erg
Oct 31, 2010

VostokProgram posted:

yo everyone: my friend, forums poster littleorv, is too much of a little bitch to ask this question so i'm doing it for him. what are the good EU4 DLCs?

fart

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

But also yes. Help me out.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Common Sense should be bought simply because one of its features is sort of integral to how the game works now (it's kind of bullshit that it wasn't a free patch feature). This is on top of new protestant and buddhist religion mechanics, new theocracy features, new half-baked parliament system, and a mish-mash of other random stuff.

The Cossack's estate system gives you more ways to counteract autonomy and seems pretty clutch to that whole system. The diplomatic features are also really useful, as you can't really tell an AI war leader what you want in a war without them. The horde stuff they added is whatever, better than vanilla but not essential.

This new expansion's Ages system adds a lot to the game, too, on top of a lot of nice quality of life features. The Asia changes seem neat but they're a little broken right now.

For everything else, it all depends on who you're interested in playing as. Ottomans, Prussians, Copts, and Fetishists have some stuff in Rights of Man (on top of a neat but inessential ruler trait system, and the ability to disinherit poo poo heirs), Central and South americans have depth added to them in El Dorado, Republics have a lot of features added in Res Publica, colonizers have a lot of stuff added for them in Conquest of Paradise (and north american tribes have new mechanics in that as well).

Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Apr 7, 2017

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

The EU4 thread is here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3725024

The OP has not been updated in a while but the posters in the thread are chill and helpful, and people ask about the good DLCs all the time and a few people have some good canned responses. Also I think all of the older DLC are on sale on Paradox's website.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Paradox guys are discussing beer buying on the twitch stream since they can't go home apparently due to lockdown. Dudes rule.

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Apr 7, 2017

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

Thanks people

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Was gonna ask if they and they folks was safe actually

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Was gonna ask if they and they folks was safe actually

And was the dog that was killed one of HoI4's error dogs

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Enjoy posted:

And was the dog that was killed one of HoI4's error dogs

All Errordogs are present and accounted for.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
If you guys are stuck down there then why not pass the time by continuing to polish Stellaris and/or HOI4?

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Psychotic Weasel posted:

If you guys are stuck down there then why not pass the time by continuing to polish Stellaris and/or HOI4?

this is a very silly request.

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!
:lol:

Since you're trapped in your office by a terrorist attack that killed some people a few blocks over anyway, I have some feature requests you can implement in EUIV...

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Why doesn't Paradox use this terror attack as an opportunity to force their employees into working overtime??? I don't get it!

Thank god they're Swedish, because if Paradox was an American tech company that's actually what would have happened.

I hope everyone at Paradox is okay and that no one there was affected by that.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
personally i am still upset hoi4 did not have national dogs as promised, loving liars

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Fintilgin posted:

:lol:

Since you're trapped in your office by a terrorist attack that killed some people a few blocks over anyway, I have some feature requests you can implement in EUIV...

This, but unironically.

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off
chanting at an ever-rising volume

add! ck2+ crusades! to! vanilla!

ADD! CK2+! CRUSADES! TO! VANILLA!

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

PleasingFungus posted:

chanting at an ever-rising volume

add! ck2+ crusades! to! vanilla!

ADD! CK2+! CRUSADES! TO! VANILLA!

what's the dif?

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Paradox has said they don't like adding mod features unless they think they can do it better. But there are plenty of ways they could make crusades better than they currently are. I hope they revisit that aspect of the game before they wrap things up for good.

Did they say if they were getting to the end of the CK2 life cycle?

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Yeah, I think there's only one or two more DLCs planned.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

Did they say if they were getting to the end of the CK2 life cycle?

Yeah, they hit it some time around Charlemagne.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Arrhythmia posted:

what's the dif?

In vanilla the target title of the crusade goes to the realm with the highest participation. In CK2+ it goes to an unlanded relative of the ruler of that realm. The titles lower in the hierarchy go to relatives of realms with less participation. All the crusaders change their culture to "Outremer". This helps stop the middle east becoming a big blob of Frankish/German culture ruled from Paris

Kuiperdolin
Sep 5, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Problem is that then players would not want to participate or just kill the guy to inherit which would amount to the same as currently.

Anyway ck2 is too feature-bloated for me now and eu4 is treading dangerously close.

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


The fact that you can win the crusade as, say, the duke of Aquitaine, and now Aquitaine is no longer a French vassal but part of the KoJ, or that you can do it as a German duke and now KoJ is part of the HRE and the empire will run to defend it every time and will expand more in the middle east through it, is loving stupid. I had a game with the latter, and then a successful jihad for jerusalem, leading to random tiny dukedoms in the ME being fealty to the emperor just as any other HRE vassal.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Kuiperdolin posted:

Problem is that then players would not want to participate or just kill the guy to inherit which would amount to the same as currently.

Anyway ck2 is too feature-bloated for me now and eu4 is treading dangerously close.

It worked fine in CK2+

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

Paradox has said they don't like adding mod features unless they think they can do it better. But there are plenty of ways they could make crusades better than they currently are. I hope they revisit that aspect of the game before they wrap things up for good.

Did they say if they were getting to the end of the CK2 life cycle?

Oh yeah they don't like adding mod features, but they have no problems shutting down entire almost finished games and gutting them for features :rolleyes:

YF-23 posted:

The fact that you can win the crusade as, say, the duke of Aquitaine, and now Aquitaine is no longer a French vassal but part of the KoJ, or that you can do it as a German duke and now KoJ is part of the HRE and the empire will run to defend it every time and will expand more in the middle east through it, is loving stupid. I had a game with the latter, and then a successful jihad for jerusalem, leading to random tiny dukedoms in the ME being fealty to the emperor just as any other HRE vassal.

In years of CK2 I don't think I've ever seen Jerusalem amount to anything but a hot mess that either gets jihaded back immediately or just sits there doing nothing. Maybe it happened so many patches back that I can't remember.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Kuiperdolin posted:

Problem is that then players would not want to participate or just kill the guy to inherit which would amount to the same as currently.

Anyway ck2 is too feature-bloated for me now and eu4 is treading dangerously close.

You do have the option of keeping it yourself, still, in CK2+ crusades. Most of the time though I'd really rather have an allied kingdom down there than hold it myself.

Jerusalem in CK2+ can actually survive long-term, sometimes.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Jerusalem survives plenty of times when they actually get it in my games, because of the Holy Order Spam.

Though I'm still pretty baffled how the hell some of them fail. Like, how the heck did the King of Abyssinia beat the Great Jewish Holy War against it when the Jews were leading the core remnant of the Arabian Empire?

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

The Christan Holy Order Spam kills the game for me every time.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe
You know what would be fun in Victoria? If you could create formable nations/cultural unions not of your own culture as puppets/spherelings if you have all their territory in your sphere or under your direct control. Taking a bunch of disparate countries and going "You are Yugoslavia now. Have fun" would be very much in the spirit of the setting and give you something to shoot for after forming your own union. The Pop Demand Mod adds the ability to do that for a few nations via decisions but it would be neat if it applied to any tag.

I know you can technically just conquer all the territory and then release them as a satellite, but that requires actually personally controlling all the territory, rather than just sphering, and you can't release cultural unions unless they get formed first and then get wiped out.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



The Cheshire Cat posted:

Taking a bunch of disparate countries and going "You are Yugoslavia now. Have fun" would be very much in the spirit of the setting and give you something to shoot for after forming your own union.

That's how we got Belgium!

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Phlegmish posted:

That's how we got Belgium!
Chocolate & Waffles: Create 10 Countries in Europe where the second largest culture makes up at least 40% of the total population.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Popping in to let everybody know that the socialist America in Kaiserreich LP is still going on and we have entered an intermission where there will be ~*~audience participation~*~ and we will playing Japan so any newcomers to the SA Paradox thread or people who thought I died because it took four weeks between updates are cordially invited to come check it out and be a part of the Great :japan: Vs Planet Earth adventure.

csm141 fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Apr 30, 2017

feller
Jul 5, 2006


You had me until audience participation

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Has anyone tried the Victoria Improvement Project mod for Revolutions? Is there a link to the most recent version? i've been looking to try it but I've been unable to find a working link.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Press conference at PDXCON on at the moment

- EU4: Third Rome announced - 1st "immersion" pack for EU4 focused on Russia.
- Jon Shafer joining Paradox to work on 'unannounced' game.
- Paradox publishing a Battletech game.
- Paradox publishing a Mars city building game by the Tropico devs

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

V for Vegas posted:

- Jon Shafer joining Paradox to work on 'unannounced' game.

This is very strange, since he seemingly still runs Conifer Games, a Michigan-based studio he founded to make At the Gates. He posted an update on the 7th with a detailed roadmap for AtG, which also stated that he will be doing something with some other people soon, which I guess was a reference to this. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonshafer/jon-shafers-at-the-gates/posts/1879147

Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 08:53 on May 12, 2017

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Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Did they say when he's joining? Might be a real long term thing for a game that won't see the light of day until towards the end of the decade.

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