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katkillad2
Aug 30, 2004

Awake and unreal, off to nowhere

Dogen posted:

On the KS8000 if you are using HDR and game mode I find you have to turn up the brightness in the game itself in addition to having the backlight turned up

I checked this in ME:A, it had an HDR brightness option that said, "The left side should match the right" and my left side was grey compared to the white right side... So yea I guess I'll have to check every HDR game from now on.

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Chasiubao
Apr 2, 2010


katkillad2 posted:

I checked this in ME:A, it had an HDR brightness option that said, "The left side should match the right" and my left side was grey compared to the white right side... So yea I guess I'll have to check every HDR game from now on.

I did this too. Didn't help much. Also any character under white lighting looks hideous :saddowns:

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

katkillad2 posted:

I checked this in ME:A, it had an HDR brightness option that said, "The left side should match the right" and my left side was grey compared to the white right side... So yea I guess I'll have to check every HDR game from now on.

Yeah I first noticed it playing RE7. It's an HDR+game mode thing. Same deal with Naughty Dog games that have had HDR patched in, Horizon, etc.

manwithoutskin
Mar 24, 2006
can you see the line where the water ends
Anyone have any experience buying Samsung REFURBS?

I'm in the market for a budget HDR Display and I'm between waiting for the 2017 Vizio M series or HiSense models, OR buying a REFURB 55" KS8000 for $700

Anyone have any opinions? Limited warranty would be 90 days. I also might be able to add a 3yr warranty for $90.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Squaretrade said no when I asked them about refurbs but it was a while ago so policy may have changed.

What I wouldn't do is gently caress with HiSense

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
I had a bad enough problem with a NEW Samsung direct from manufacturer that I would NEVER mess with a refurb. These things aren't super "built to last."

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
Hello TV goons. I need TV buying advice!

My mom's TV just blew up (well, it died on her) so she's in the market for a new TV and sent me to find one for her. She uses her TV primarily for Netflix, watching BluRays, and playing Playstation 4 games.

She prefers ordering from Best Buy because she wants the TV to be delivered for her as she doesn't want to actually have to travel to a store to pick it up (she lives in a fairly rural area with long travel distances).

Her previous TV was a 50 inch from about 2010, so I'm looking into 55 inch 4k TVs for her as 55 inch is about the max she could fit in the space in her TV room.

The price point would preferably be somewhere below $1100, but the lower the better.

I don't know anything about any TV lingo, but these are the TVs that seemed to match that criteria:

Samsung - 55" Class - (54.6" Diag.) - LED - 2160p - Smart - 4K Ultra HD TV - with High Dynamic Range - Silver
Model: UN55KS8000FXZA Price: $999
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...p?skuId=5034800

Sony - 55" Class (54.6" Diag.) - LED - 2160p - Smart - 4K Ultra HD TV with High Dynamic Range - Black
Model: XBR-55X700D Price $799
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-55-class-54-6-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-with-high-dynamic-range-black/4804403.p?skuId=4804403

Sony - 55" Class (54.6" Diag.) - 2160p - Smart - 4K Ultra HD TV with High Dynamic Range - Black
Model: XBR-55X850D Price: $1099
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-55-class-54-6-diag--2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-with-high-dynamic-range-black/4801600.p?skuId=4801600

Samsung - 55" Class (54.6" Diag.) - LED - 2160p - Smart - 4K Ultra HD TV with High Dynamic Range - Black
Model: UN55KU7000FXZA Price $949
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-55-class-54-6-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-with-high-dynamic-range-black/5146801.p?skuId=5146801

LG - 55" Class (54.6" Diag.) - LED - 2160p - Smart - 4K Ultra HD TV with High Dynamic Range - Silver
Model: 55UH7700 Price: $999
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-55-class-54-6-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-with-high-dynamic-range-silver/4953902.p?skuId=4953902

VIZIO - 55" Class (54.64" Diag.) - LED - 2160p - with Chromecast Built-in - 4K UHD Home Theater Display with High Dynamic Range - Black
Model: P55-C1 Price: $1099
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-5...p?skuId=4352209

VIZIO - 55" Class (54.6" Diag.) - LED - 2160p - with Chromecast Built-in - 4K Ultra HD Home Theater Display with HDR - Black
Model: M55-D0 Price: $699
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-5...p?skuId=4989100

Samsung - 55" Class (54.6" Diag.) - LED - 2160p - Smart - 4K Ultra HD TV with High Dynamic Range - Black
Model: UN55MU7000FXZA Price: $1099
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-55-class-54-6-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-with-high-dynamic-range-black/5773701.p?skuId=5773701

Samsung - 55" Class (54.6" Diag.) - LED - 2160p - Smart - 4K Ultra HD TV with High Dynamic Range - Gray
Model: UN55MU6300FXZA Price: $799
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-55-class-54-6-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-with-high-dynamic-range-gray/5754304.p?skuId=5754304

I was leaning toward recommending the $699 Vizio or the $799 Samsung, but would love input from anyone here on if any of these TVs should be avoided or if they're all about equal. If they're all about equal, then I'll just go with the cheapest, but I'm willing to recommend something priced higher (like 1100 vs 700) if the difference is dramatic.

Neither myself or my mother are crazy TV freaks so if the differences are only noticeable if you're a TV specialist, we really won't give a poo poo.

Any advice? Thanks goons.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
Anyone watch Planet Earth II on 4k HDR yet? It seems to be getting great reviews so I might pick it up.

comper
Jun 22, 2006
My mom says I'm cool.

wandler20 posted:

Anyone watch Planet Earth II on 4k HDR yet? It seems to be getting great reviews so I might pick it up.

It's amazing on its own, having it look so good is the icing on the cake. It is mostly 4K HDR reference material, but some of the GoPro/remote cams don't look so great. If you have a UHD player this is one title that you must have in your library in my opinion.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride
The Revenant is pretty incredible although I understand a lot of people don't care for the film itself.

A Bag of Milk
Jul 3, 2007

I don't see any American dream; I see an American nightmare.
For a budget of $200, how is a used LG 55LE5500 in good condition? 55", name brand, 1080p, decent but not spectacular reviews overall seems like about what you get in that price range. Is there anything else I should be on the lookout for?

Edit: And is getting an older used DLP a disaster waiting to happen as a general rule? Looking at the Sony KDS-60A2000 which was admittedly top of the line when it came out.

A Bag of Milk fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Apr 11, 2017

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Mordiceius posted:

Neither myself or my mother are crazy TV freaks so if the differences are only noticeable if you're a TV specialist, we really won't give a poo poo.

Any advice? Thanks goons.

Get the Vizio

uwaeve
Oct 21, 2010



focus this time so i don't have to keep telling you idiots what happened
Lipstick Apathy

wandler20 posted:

Anyone watch Planet Earth II on 4k HDR yet? It seems to be getting great reviews so I might pick it up.

Yes, do it. It's amazing.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Yeah, it looks incredible on my C6.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

uwaeve posted:

Yes, do it. It's amazing.

Bought it. My kids should be impressed. My 3 year old has the Rocky Mountain Train movie (4K HDR) and he loves watching it for the scenery.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
So I just got my Vizio M55 TV delivered and I also got a Vizio 3.1 sound bar. The only thing I have to attach is a Playstation 4. Do I plug the PS4 into the sound bar and the sound bar to the TV or PS4 directly to the TV.

I had read something online about having to use specific ports or something to ensure the HDR comes through on the PS4.

EDIT: Nevermind. Seems like the PS4 needs to be plugged into HDMI port 1 with color subsampling turned on.

Mordiceius fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Apr 14, 2017

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
I know the KS8000 is The TV for a 65" at ~$1300.

But what about bigger TVs? Like a 70 or 75? Anything worth a poo poo under $1500?

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.
Looking to finally get a decent TV. Been watching a 32" Sansui hand-me-down for the last 5 years...total POS and now that we're in a house, our couch is much further away from the TV...so it's time to go big.

So first thing's first, I'm trying to avoid Samsung for unreasonable reasons. Mainly I don't want my TV watching me...but I know that's not fully reasonable. Convince me otherwise, but from what I see on pricing, it's not like I'll be saving a lot of money for equivalent technology.

Anyhow, I'm looking at the Sony XBR-900E series. From what I can tell, this is a better pick than a 930D, and the 930E is a ton more expensive and out of my price range. Is that a correct assessment? Honestly it's really difficult to tell the difference between everything at a glance...reviews are pages long, and spec sheets are filled with marketing jargon so you can't tell what the features actually do. So far I've been trusting review summaries, and they all seem to line up with each other on the same handful of models so I guess that's good enough?

The debate I'm having right now is on size. Basically I thought 55" would be fine, and it'll fit perfectly on our TV stand. My problem is that everything I read says the biggest regret in a new TV purchase is not going bigger, but we're moving up from 32"...so I can't imagine I'll be all that upset. Frankly 60 would have been perfect, but that's just not A Thing apparently, so I'm in a tough spot.

So here's what's in the running:

Sony XBR55X900E - $1,500
Sony XBR65X900E - $2,200

That's a LOT of money for a 65 over a 55...I'm not sure I'm convinced of it. I know this is a 10+ year investment, but 50% more for not that much more TV isn't selling me. I think that money would be better used for a sound bar and then some...I can stomach $1500, but $2000+ makes me hesitate.

Something to note is that the TV is for TV and movies...I don't have any consoles so gaming isn't a thing.

Ghostnuke
Sep 21, 2005

Throw this in a pot, add some broth, a potato? Baby you got a stew going!


89 posted:

I know the KS8000 is The TV for a 65" at ~$1300.

But what about bigger TVs? Like a 70 or 75? Anything worth a poo poo under $1500?

Not really. This was my problem, I wanted to go bigger but 65" was the biggest I could afford while still getting something decent.

minusX
Jun 16, 2007

Say something hideous and horrible jumps out at you. Something so disgusting that it simply must die.
Ah! Oh!..So tacky! I can't...look...directly at it!

Doing a group gift for a friend and I think the funds collected puts us around $750ish total. So I'm looking at this dell deal for a M55-D0 $700 + $250 gift card. http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/vizi...tv-home-theater

Anyone have complaints about this TV? I know the viewing angle could be better, the sound isn't great, and the TV remote is kinda the most annoying thing ever. But the gift card can turn into a sound bar really easy, and the mount can help with the viewing angle I hope.

Anyone think there's a better deal in the price range? Focus is Gaming (4K HDR would be nice to future proof, I know this is going to be the bare range for that.)

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
I just got that TV yesterday. I like it.

minusX
Jun 16, 2007

Say something hideous and horrible jumps out at you. Something so disgusting that it simply must die.
Ah! Oh!..So tacky! I can't...look...directly at it!

Mordiceius posted:

I just got that TV yesterday. I like it.

How's the sound out of the box?

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

minusX posted:

How's the sound out of the box?

poo poo. Don't listen to any TV without using speakers. This is common sense.

I picked up the Vizio 3.1 sound bar for $199 along with it and it is perfect for my use. (Small apartment living)

https://www.vizio.com/sb3831c6m.html

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Thinking of finally getting a 4K TV. I currently have a 1080 55 inch Toshiba that been pretty nice and two years old, but if I get a 4K TV, I would move that to my bedroom and use the new one in the living room. But is OLED still the way to go, or should I get something else? Also would I benefit getting 55 inch again on 4K, or go 65 or higher?

comper
Jun 22, 2006
My mom says I'm cool.

Rirse posted:

Thinking of finally getting a 4K TV. I currently have a 1080 55 inch Toshiba that been pretty nice and two years old, but if I get a 4K TV, I would move that to my bedroom and use the new one in the living room. But is OLED still the way to go, or should I get something else? Also would I benefit getting 55 inch again on 4K, or go 65 or higher?

Get a 65" LG B6 or C6 at a good price and you'll be very happy.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

If you got the money get an OLED. And no one ever said I wish I got a smaller TV.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Rirse posted:

Thinking of finally getting a 4K TV. I currently have a 1080 55 inch Toshiba that been pretty nice and two years old, but if I get a 4K TV, I would move that to my bedroom and use the new one in the living room. But is OLED still the way to go, or should I get something else? Also would I benefit getting 55 inch again on 4K, or go 65 or higher?

Depends on how much is in your TV budget.

Bill Barber
Aug 26, 2015

Hot Rope Guy

DaveSauce posted:

Looking to finally get a decent TV.
Get an LGB6 for $1500 and never look back.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Bill Barber posted:

Get an LGB6 for $1500 and never look back.

Who selling those for $1500 anyway? I looked on Best Buy's website and it showing up for 3500.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
He prob means the 55" which I think you can get for 1500 on sale sometimes

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi
Should I bother moving my 42 inch Panasonic plasma from 2008 across the country? I'm thinking of getting an OLED around the fall, and I'm not sure if there's anything worth waiting for that might push me to keep the Panasonic a bit longer. I know the Sonys are coming out, as are the panasonics. Maybe those are worth the wait?

Residency Evil fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Apr 15, 2017

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:

Residency Evil posted:

Should I bother moving my 42 inch Panasonic plasma from 2008 across the country? I'm thinking of getting an OLED around the fall, and I'm not sure if there's anything worth waiting for that might push me to keep the Panasonic a bit longer. I know the Sonys are coming out, as are the panasonics. Maybe those are worth the wait?

They're not paying for you to do a relocation? They packed and shipped our two old trash TVs for "free!"

https://www.cnet.com/news/should-i-buy-an-oled-tv-now-or-wait-for-2017-models/

"If you really want a new TV now, get the B6. NOLED regrets.

If you're happy enough with your current TV to wait until the 2017 holiday season to buy a new one, then wait. Judging from its specifications the B7 will have slightly better picture quality, and by Black Friday 2017 I'll be surprised if the 65-inch set isn't $3,000, or even less. It may even dip down to $2,500 or $2,000, depending on how badly LG wants to dominate the high-end TV market. I'd be really surprised if it goes any lower, however."

If I were buying this coming year instead of just having bought last fall, I would probably save for a C7.

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.

Bill Barber posted:

Get an LGB6 for $1500 and never look back.

Oh....I didn't realize OLED screens were available that cheap. I assumed that they were $3k+ at this size...I'll have to look in to that.

Crack
Apr 10, 2009
At roughly the same price, which is better between a ks7000 (I'm in the UK so I think it's the same as a US ks8000), or LG 910v, both 55"? The LG is OLED but it's curved, I'm not sure if there's any problem with that. I'll be going to a store to see what they look like but is one just better than the other?

Not really interested in smart features or whatever but ruggedness, ease of use and mainly picture quality are important.

E: I know the samsung is UHD with HDR but this is going to be used mainly for live tv and streaming, how likely is it that these formats are going to actually take advantage of that?

Crack fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Apr 15, 2017

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
Vizio P series or Samsung KS8000?

I'm starting to see a line drawn between the two on Reddit.

teh_Broseph
Oct 21, 2010

THE LAST METROID IS IN
CATTIVITY. THE GALAXY
IS AT PEACE...
Lipstick Apathy

89 posted:

Vizio P series or Samsung KS8000?

I'm starting to see a line drawn between the two on Reddit.

The gist I got from googling a while was lean towards P series for movies for better black levels (with annoying remote), lean towards KS8000 if doing gaming and stuff too for better response and bright colors/lights.

e: vv fact

teh_Broseph fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Apr 16, 2017

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
the ks8000 is fine movies are fine

teh_Broseph
Oct 21, 2010

THE LAST METROID IS IN
CATTIVITY. THE GALAXY
IS AT PEACE...
Lipstick Apathy
I was all excited to rent a 4k movie last night to see my first newer Hollywood whatever thing on a KS8000, but it seemed the Samsung Vudu app doesn't actually play in 4k?? Options only showed SD (lol why is this still a thing) or 1080p HD in the menu, and when looking at movies. Little annoyed at the $2 HD->UHD markup listed on their site taking a $5 rental to $8 but hey that's in the edge of reason for me for new and fancy. Then go with the safe fallback of FandangoNow via app, but look at their movie selection and like no thanks I don't wanna rent random surfer movie I've never heard of for ten dollars :laffo:. I guess props to Amazon and Netflix for having all their original content in 4k and sometimes HDR10 no bullshit required, wonder what the barriers look like for a company like Netflix to retool shooting and publishing all their content out in their one steam location vs. standard Hollywood etc. to switch ingrained systems over, all the different publishers/locations/formats the content has to get to (theaters, discs, streams).

Pearth 2 discs burning a hole in my cabinet all week, anxiously waiting for an Xbone to show up from eBay so I can finally watch something that shows the glory of the new TV. In the meantime Ratchet and Clank (PS4 w/HDR) showed up from Gamefly woo; goddamn it's like playing a Pixar movie, the colors look amazing.

teh_Broseph fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Apr 16, 2017

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Since Samsung doesn't support Dolby Vision, UHD on Vudu is a bit of a waste on those TVs.

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Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

They're not paying for you to do a relocation? They packed and shipped our two old trash TVs for "free!"

https://www.cnet.com/news/should-i-buy-an-oled-tv-now-or-wait-for-2017-models/

"If you really want a new TV now, get the B6. NOLED regrets.

If you're happy enough with your current TV to wait until the 2017 holiday season to buy a new one, then wait. Judging from its specifications the B7 will have slightly better picture quality, and by Black Friday 2017 I'll be surprised if the 65-inch set isn't $3,000, or even less. It may even dip down to $2,500 or $2,000, depending on how badly LG wants to dominate the high-end TV market. I'd be really surprised if it goes any lower, however."

If I were buying this coming year instead of just having bought last fall, I would probably save for a C7.

Thanks. They're paying for it, but I'm wondering if I can just use it as an excuse to get that OLED. :) I'm in no rush, so I'll probably wait until the holidays.

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