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You can also ask a friend to proxy vote for you. https://www.gov.uk/apply-vote-proxy But you need friends for that, so I guess a postal vote is the best option
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GaussianCopula posted:Those 60billion are just the open bills, they don't buy you anything. The idea that you get access to the single market, especially for (financial) services, without free movement is absurd. If they don't buy anything then it doesn't make much sense to pay them?
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GaussianCopula posted:Those 60billion are just the open bills, they don't buy you anything. The idea that you get access to the single market, especially for (financial) services, without free movement is absurd.
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Pissflaps posted:If they don't buy anything then it doesn't make much sense to pay them? If you pay for Netflix on a credit card, and cancel it later, you still need to pay off the credit card even if you cancel Netflix.
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namaste faggots posted:So who do i vote for to prevent brexit? I'll be casting an absentee ballot in Hammersmith and Fulham. Libdems, because if Libdems win then the only people left for them to sell out to are in Brussels.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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TinTower posted:If you pay for Netflix on a credit card, and cancel it later, you still need to pay off the credit card even if you cancel Netflix. The nations finances are not a credit card.
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GaussianCopula posted:Those 60billion are just the open bills, they don't buy you anything. The idea that you get access to the single market, especially for (financial) services, without free movement is absurd. Can you gently caress off already you odious Nazi shite?
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minema posted:I live in a marginal seat for Labour, what is the best way to get involved and try to make some sort of difference this election? Assuming you want to make a difference in favour of Labour (  ), here is a good place to start: http://www.labour.org.uk/volunteering This link will direct you to campaigning events near you: https://events.labour.org.uk/ That's not always complete, but once you get on your local party's mailing list, you should be set. If you need some more stuff, even if you don't care about Momentum, they typically have some pretty handy leaflets etc. which you can find here http://www.peoplesmomentum.com also an events calendar which is a good place to find local Labour ones missing off the main party site. If you become a Labour member, there's a membersnet site with other election material etc. Feel free to just rock up to a door knocking with no preparation though (pen might be handy) - the organisers will sort you out and pair you with someone more experienced.
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Pissflaps posted:If they don't buy anything then it doesn't make much sense to pay them? Those 60billion consist mostly of obligations the UK has entered during their EU membership (e.g. pensions for EU civil servants) and accepting this is a precondition by the EU to even start talks about a post-Brexit relationship. I guess you could argue that it buys you these talks.
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Zephro posted:I think every demand Europe makes, reasonable or otherwise, is going to be portrayed by the Brexit morons and most of the press as "perfidious Eurocrats want to punish Britane, this just proves we were right to leave!" We're in the stupid emotional part of Brexit. Few months and hopefully it'll calm down.
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Apr 18, 2017 16:20
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Pissflaps posted:The nations finances are not a credit card. It is the same principle, though; the "Brexit bill" is just our liabilities that we haven't paid off yet. We can refuse to pay it off, but it'd junk our bond ratings.
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GaussianCopula posted:Those 60billion consist mostly of obligations the UK has entered during their EU membership (e.g. pensions for EU civil servants) and accepting this is a precondition by the EU to even start talks about a post-Brexit relationship. I guess you could argue that it buys you these talks. 
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GaussianCopula posted:Those 60billion consist mostly of obligations the UK has entered during their EU membership (e.g. pensions for EU civil servants) and accepting this is a precondition by the EU to even start talks about a post-Brexit relationship. I guess you could argue that it buys you these talks. I think the UK will pay the EU bill but it'll get a lot more than talk in return. There will be compromise on both sides. Cooler heads than yours will prevail.
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TinTower posted:We can refuse to pay it off, but it'd junk our bond ratings. This is silly. We don't borrow off the EU. A squabble over whether the UK has ongoing financial commitments to a trading block following its departure won't affect credit ratings.
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Pissflaps posted:This is silly. We don't borrow off the EU. A squabble over whether the UK has ongoing financial commitments to a trading block following its departure won't affect credit ratings. Falling back on WTO rules for the trade with your most important trading partners on the other hand will do exactly that.
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GaussianCopula posted:Falling back on WTO rules for the trade with your most important trading partners on the other hand will do exactly that. Your aggressive rhetoric is understandable but like I said, I think compromise will win the day. Providing your leaders can resist their more base Teutonic leanings, that is.
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Oberleutnant posted:60.... 60 billion.... sounds like 6 million, a number which you probably like a lot!!! because you're a loving nazi twat! gc may be a oval office but your schtick is getting old
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blowfish posted:gc may be a oval office but your schtick is getting old Nah
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GaussianCopula posted:Falling back on WTO rules for the trade with your most important trading partners on the other hand will do exactly that.
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Zephro posted:I think every demand Europe makes, reasonable or otherwise, is going to be portrayed by the Brexit morons and most of the press as "perfidious Eurocrats want to punish Britane, this just proves we were right to leave!" Do you know, I actually thought that was quite an even handed article considering it was the Express. Setting out how the government is shooting themselves in the foot with their negotiating strategy, and staying that the departure was 'inevitable' due to Brexit. Apart from the 'punishment' headline of course. quote:Diplomats agreed with the European Commission’s decision to block any talks about a future comprehensive trade deal until the UK accepts its £60bn divorce bill and comes to a settlement on the rights of EU citizens.
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TheRat posted:Nah
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blowfish posted:gc may be a oval office but your schtick is getting old
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Pissflaps posted:This is silly. We don't borrow off the EU. A squabble over whether the UK has ongoing financial commitments to a trading block following its departure won't affect credit ratings. It's a financial obligation, and failing to pay it (either through inability or deliberately) is an automatic downgrade to junk bond status.
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Tories well outperforming Labour in Scotland.. https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/854308909129105408
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blowfish posted:gc may be a oval office but your schtick is getting old
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TinTower posted:It's a financial obligation, and failing to pay it (either through inability or deliberately) is an automatic downgrade to junk bond status. Seems unlikely - any country could conjure up a 'financial obligation' in order to gently caress another's credit rating?
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TinTower posted:It's a financial obligation, and failing to pay it (either through inability or deliberately) is an automatic downgrade to junk bond status.
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jBrereton posted:For a guy who flipped out about someone using the term "quisling" you seem very happy to bring up the dim and distant past. I am perfectly happy about people using the term where it actually applies. GC is a nazi. Corbyn is not a Quisling for voting for a loving general election. Go gently caress yourself.
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Gaussian is this you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AhGYo9TExU
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TheRat posted:I am perfectly happy about people using the term where it actually applies. GC is a nazi. Corbyn is not a Quisling for voting for a loving general election. Go gently caress yourself. I'm out the loop. Why is GC a nazi?
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Private Eye posted:Tories well outperforming Labour in Scotland.. Not terribly surprising given its newfound love of liberals with a different coat of paint.
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blowfish posted:gc may be a oval office but your schtick is getting old Do you know what will never get old? All the kids that GC gleefully sees die so his taxes don't go up.
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Pissflaps posted:Seems unlikely - any country could conjure up a 'financial obligation' in order to gently caress another's credit rating? a surprise SCOTUS decision sent the Argentinean bond market haywire, so sorta, yea this is contingent on the involved counties being major credit markets to begin with. but that is true in this case.
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Private Eye posted:I'm out the loop. Why is GC a nazi?
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Private Eye posted:I'm out the loop. Why is GC a nazi? Mostly because of his opinions and political leanings.
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I feel like Labour must oppose the new GE because what the gently caress kind of system do we have where if you can call a snap election halfway through because your polling numbers look better now? Yes I know the media will poo poo on them but why step into the ring for a fight that is only going to give fresh poll numbers for the media to wave around and an increased Tory majority, even if the Lib Dems take a bigger %? Impossible to say if Labour would be in a better place in three years and will probably be in a better place after doing badly in a GE and having five years to rebuild but it's a pretty safe bet the Tories will be in a worse place in 2020 with the same slim majority and Brexit hanging over the election. The thread is right Labour will take a media and soundbite thrashing for making a tactical choice because we're all populist idiots these days where the thinking is on the level of calling someone a chicken in the playground but doing something like a Vote of No Confidence to force one would look surely look pretty bad. Carecat fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Private Eye posted:I'm out the loop. Why is GC a nazi? It's because he's a nazi.
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Private Eye posted:Tories well outperforming Labour in Scotland.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAj5WlBdrx4&t=90s I refer you to the right honourable lady walking away from the camera; ootside the Barra's.
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