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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


shovelbum posted:

Like all I really want is a tablet in the radio slot that handles media and gps and doesn't tie internet in with things like "steering" or "brakes" and then separate physical controls for whatever. The best thing about using the phone is that it's not on the canbus or w/e with safety critical systems so no one can hack my airbags

Check out aliexpress and the like. I'm finding interesting All In One units I could buy and replace my full dash upgrade and make a profit on my current fuckass hascky solution.

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Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


I am a luddite and all I want is a radio with two buttons and two knobs.

Knob a: station/track skipping/fast forward/reverse
knob b: volume/bal/treb/fade
button: source/on-off

once you memorize those controls you don't even need to look at your radio.

When I have to use one of the modern touch-the-tablet radios I have to take my attention off the road for long enough to navigate the menus, which is really fuckin' dangerous imo.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

empty baggie posted:

The industry isn't as dead as some people here make it out to be.

And they seem to be really intent on keeping alive the "Check out the new Sonique skin I just downloaded" aesthetic:



empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

Grand Prize Winner posted:

I am a luddite and all I want is a radio with two buttons and two knobs.

Knob a: station/track skipping/fast forward/reverse
knob b: volume/bal/treb/fade
button: source/on-off

once you memorize those controls you don't even need to look at your radio.

When I have to use one of the modern touch-the-tablet radios I have to take my attention off the road for long enough to navigate the menus, which is really fuckin' dangerous imo.

This is why, after spending thousands of dollars on 4 or 5 different double-DIN in-dash navigation units, I finally said gently caress it and went with a ~$100 single-DIN Blaupunkt Toronto 420BT. It has two knobs and a few buttons, and has Bluetooth for iPhone support. That's all I need, and it makes driving much more pleasant. Those overly complicated touchscreen stereos offer a ton of features, but never seem to get any of them right, and are usually slow to boot and respond. Even the image from the backup camera I once had wouldn't appear on the screen until I had already backed out of the driveway and was a quarter mile down the road. It's been almost 5 years since I "downgraded", and I've heard that they've gotten better since my last experience, but I'm still happy with what I have (though CarPlay would be nice).

bigman.50grand
Mar 31, 2007
no

Grand Prize Winner posted:

I am a luddite and all I want is a radio with two buttons and two knobs.

Knob a: station/track skipping/fast forward/reverse
knob b: volume/bal/treb/fade
button: source/on-off

once you memorize those controls you don't even need to look at your radio.

When I have to use one of the modern touch-the-tablet radios I have to take my attention off the road for long enough to navigate the menus, which is really fuckin' dangerous imo.

Holy poo poo this! Touch screens in a car is the failed and obsolete technology.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
I put an old android table instead of the head unit and it it mostly works way better than expected, but it definitely needs physical controls at least for volume and play/pause and next/previous.

Here's an interesting thing I just came across:



It's a tiny boom box that plays from USB, SD cards and has a tape deck that can be used to play and record. I have no need for this but if it also worked with bluetooth, I'd be seriously tempted to pick one up for like 50 bucks. Although this does give me the terrible idea of getting an actual vintage machine and modding it with a bluetooth receiver.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
Those things are super terrible though, and you'd be way better served by getting an actual old one and gluing a chromecast audio or something in the battery compartment.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

mobby_6kl posted:

I put an old android table instead of the head unit and it it mostly works way better than expected, but it definitely needs physical controls at least for volume and play/pause and next/previous.

Here's an interesting thing I just came across:



It's a tiny boom box that plays from USB, SD cards and has a tape deck that can be used to play and record. I have no need for this but if it also worked with bluetooth, I'd be seriously tempted to pick one up for like 50 bucks. Although this does give me the terrible idea of getting an actual vintage machine and modding it with a bluetooth receiver.

You'd be better off modding a proper boom box.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNgm8Cn-HpY

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Lurking Haro posted:

You'd be better off modding a proper boom box.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNgm8Cn-HpY

Ngggh

I'm so old....

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


mobby_6kl posted:

Although this does give me the terrible idea of getting an actual vintage machine and modding it with a bluetooth receiver.

That's the exact opposite of a terrible idea and I think you should do it

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Looking at old boom boxes makes me nostalgic. I really really need a man cave.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


Best Dead Gay Forums
on the whole Internet!

Trabant posted:

And they seem to be really intent on keeping alive the "Check out the new Sonique skin I just downloaded" aesthetic:





I've always heard it called as the "Tokyo Ginza by night" school of design.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginza

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

ReidRansom posted:

That's the exact opposite of a terrible idea and I think you should do it
I mean terrible because it's going to be yet another project that will take way more time and money than intended and, if ever finished, would leave me with something I'll barely use.




Some guy is selling a damaged Sharp GF-777 on the local equivalent of craigslist. I'm calling tomorrow to find out what's wrong and how much he wants for it.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts
I stopped by Walmart the other day and wandered through the electronics section, and was shocked to discover that they still carry blank audio cassettes. I was almost tempted to buy a pack ($3.99 for three 90-minute tapes), but then I remembered that although I have a cassette player in my car, I have nothing that can record to them anymore. Oh well.

Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica
Going through car naviagtion/map/gps chat reminded me of probably one of my best personal stories related to personal technology.

When I graduated from college, I ended up getting a job in Boston and moving out there from Denver. I did a cross country trip over the course of a week and when I left I still had a Verizon flip phone that I had gotten senior year of high school, a Kodak point/shoot digital camera my mom got me in college to document the first apartment I moved into (for deposit evidence), and the latest gen iPod shuffle for music. Driving across the country I really only left with an idea of the interstates I'd be taking to Boston, and some print outs of Google Map directions.



Driving back 2 years later I had a Galaxy S4 that had replaced my music, photo, phone, and navigation purposes. My pops also rode back with me and had brought a bunch of maps because he was old school. As we were leaving Boston he pulled out his New England map and tried to map our journey out of the state, and promptly gave up after about an hour in as he realized how lovely and low detail all the maps he had bought were. I think the experience of riding back with me and seeing how effective and detailed the Google Maps app on my phone was ended up being the thing that pushed him towards getting a smartphone himself.



Kind of crazy to think about what I was working with 5 years ago, and how different that was from the 5 years previous to that.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Yeah, poo poo's crazy, we're just so used to it and don't realize what's been happening. When you think about it, smartphones replaced all of these gadgets for 90% casual users:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

mobby_6kl posted:

Yeah, poo poo's crazy, we're just so used to it and don't realize what's been happening. When you think about it, smartphones replaced all of these gadgets for 90% casual users:



Grumbletron 4000
Nov 30, 2002

Where you want it, bitch.
College Slice
Last car I had, or even know of that had a standard DIN opening was my '04 Pontiac GTP. Even then I had to buy a $100 controller box to retain the warning chimes and OnStar. I got a nice Pioneer touchscreen head unit with USB, aux input and Bluetooth for $300 plus $50 or so for the harness and trim kit. Way cheaper than the tragic GM stereo.



I got an '07 Subaru legacy once the GTP lunched a 2nd transmission. Turns out that the kit to swap in an aftermarket stereo for a Legacy with climate control has to be imported from Japan and costs a couple hundred bucks. gently caress that. The OEM stereo isn't that bad and does have an AUX input.

I'd like to put a nicer head unit in but I've settled for replacing the speakers and splicing in a line level converter to hook up a little subwoofer. It sounds pretty good but I would love to have kept my Pioneer that I had before.



See the little knobs below the stereo? That auto climate control is what makes it $250 to get a dash kit. If I had the standard HVAC it'd be easy and cheap to get an install kit. Stupid fancy heater.

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

My car has a DIN stereo hole, which is quite remarkable considering the model came out in 1963.



The radios which were originally fitted were bolted through a faceplate, which clipped to the dashboard. Underneath that, a DIN hole. Meaning anything will fit if you discard that faceplate. So my car, which predated the moon landing by half a decade, had Bluetooth streaming, hands free phone etc while friends with five year old cars were messing about with FM transmitters and similar crap just to play music from their phones. Even the newer cars with aux-in sockets still didn't have bluetooth.

When was the DIN hole specification set out? Wiki says it became an international standard in 1984, but based on the German DIN spec which I can't find a date for.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Trabant posted:

And they seem to be really intent on keeping alive the "Check out the new Sonique skin I just downloaded" aesthetic:





Where are the half-dressed anime women?


This is so dumb. You shouldn't be taking laptops to key signing parties.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

Pokey Araya posted:

My band uses the our atlas at least once a tour. Not much cell service when you take this route, but hopefully you loaded up on beer/snacks/an INFLATED spare.



This is not the greatest route TBH. You should be going up through Denio to Fields (a great place to get a milkshake BTW) and then through Harney to Burns and over to Bend to get to Eugene or you should go from Reno/Carson through Alturas and K-falls. You're taking the route that's technically the shortest but you're losing time passing through the area around Oakridge which is windy and has cops. Google says it's a shorter route but they don't take into account that between the Nevada border and Burns you can do 20 over the speed limit and there's way less twisty roads to slow you down.

Pokey Araya
Jan 1, 2007

El Estrago Bonito posted:

This is not the greatest route TBH. You should be going up through Denio to Fields (a great place to get a milkshake BTW) and then through Harney to Burns and over to Bend to get to Eugene or you should go from Reno/Carson through Alturas and K-falls. You're taking the route that's technically the shortest but you're losing time passing through the area around Oakridge which is windy and has cops. Google says it's a shorter route but they don't take into account that between the Nevada border and Burns you can do 20 over the speed limit and there's way less twisty roads to slow you down.

This route was conceived after a heavy night of drinking, altitude sickness, god knows how many drugs, and sleeping in a van for a couple weeks. Our Saltlake show got canceled, so I found a camp ground at the mid-point between Eugene and Vegas. It wasn't the best idea, but we did it and survived somehow. I'll take your recommendations into consideration next time we do the west coast, where do you live? We always like to stay anywhere better than the truckstop/motel 6, we're a bunch of chill rear end metal heads that normally plan better than that abortion of a drive.

All that being said, we all had tons of fun being scared and lost in the middle of nowhere America.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS
Burns, Oregon to just above Alturas on 395 is the most terrifyingly desolate road I've ever been on, and I drove trucks to northern Alberta, Saskatchewan and Boise to Vegas on the regular. I don't think I saw a single open place of business for 3-4 hours and there wasn't any cellphone reception either(as of 6 years ago).

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Horace posted:

My car has a DIN stereo hole, which is quite remarkable considering the model came out in 1963.



The radios which were originally fitted were bolted through a faceplate, which clipped to the dashboard. Underneath that, a DIN hole. Meaning anything will fit if you discard that faceplate. So my car, which predated the moon landing by half a decade, had Bluetooth streaming, hands free phone etc while friends with five year old cars were messing about with FM transmitters and similar crap just to play music from their phones. Even the newer cars with aux-in sockets still didn't have bluetooth.

When was the DIN hole specification set out? Wiki says it became an international standard in 1984, but based on the German DIN spec which I can't find a date for.

What's it like driving an Amphicar? :3:

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Dick Trauma posted:

What's it like driving an Amphicar? :3:



But Horace's car is a Rover? Is this somehow :thejoke:?

I'd think at the least the 'V8' badge and the automatic transmission would indicate that it's not the I4 manual described in the Amphicar picture.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Pham Nuwen posted:

But Horace's car is a Rover? Is this somehow :thejoke:?

:cripes:

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

Splashy.

I did have a car with that same I4 Triumph engine. Based on that, every voyage in an Amphicar must have been like a mini Exxon Valdez catastrophe.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


I just made ~$300 yesterday and today, from selling around 80 CDs :cool:

And I have around 220 CDs left.

Apparently the Japanese version of Ghost's Opus Eponymous (with the Here Comes the Sun cover bonus track) sells for $50 by itself on Ebay.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

KozmoNaut posted:

I just made ~$300 yesterday and today, from selling around 80 CDs :cool:

And I have around 220 CDs left.

Apparently the Japanese version of Ghost's Opus Eponymous (with the Here Comes the Sun cover bonus track) sells for $50 by itself on Ebay.
I haven't routinely listened to music straight from physical media in many years, but I'm still regularly buying CDs because amazon keeps doing this thing where the mp3 version of an album is like :10bux: but the CD---with autorip included---is like US$4. I literally have a stack of CDs that I've never even taken out of the shrinkwrap.

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

SubG posted:

I haven't routinely listened to music straight from physical media in many years, but I'm still regularly buying CDs because amazon keeps doing this thing where the mp3 version of an album is like :10bux: but the CD---with autorip included---is like US$4. I literally have a stack of CDs that I've never even taken out of the shrinkwrap.

This is why I still buy blu ray disks even though I rarely ever use the disks themselves. Nowadays most of them come with the blu ray, DVD, and digital copy, and often you can get them cheaper this way than by buying them through iTunes alone, and they officially add to your iTunes library (or whatever digital library you use) so you always have a copy that's accessible on all of your devices even if the physical media is lost or damaged.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Techmoan has more goofy 80s poo poo for us today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtYmaKsWwrU

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I couldn't get a photo without looking weird but behind the desk at the doctor's office yesterday they had an old-school Realistic cassette deck with a tape-to-aux cassette that had a curly corded-phone type cable, it was pretty sweet

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Techmoan has more goofy 80s poo poo for us today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtYmaKsWwrU

He always manages to surprise me with some weird rear end audio stuff.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


My favorite was that turntable that opened up like a gigantic CD player.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Has he ever done a breakdown of one of those record/cd/radio all-in-one sets that were briefly popular during the start of the vinyl resurgence? I haven't seen one in years but I've always wondered what their guts looked like.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


I have one sitting under my TV right now. It's not great, but there's nothing really wrong with it either. I'm getting ready to repair a different object, but I'll get some shots of this thing's innards when I get a chance.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

SubG posted:

I haven't routinely listened to music straight from physical media in many years, but I'm still regularly buying CDs because amazon keeps doing this thing where the mp3 version of an album is like :10bux: but the CD---with autorip included---is like US$4. I literally have a stack of CDs that I've never even taken out of the shrinkwrap.

I have good luck at the local Goodwill if I can get there before the local ebay trolls strip the shelves. Seriously, just straight up walking along with a smartphone and checking the online price with the barcode reader, not even looking at the cover. gently caress you, rear end in a top hat.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Kwyndig posted:

Has he ever done a breakdown of one of those record/cd/radio all-in-one sets that were briefly popular during the start of the vinyl resurgence? I haven't seen one in years but I've always wondered what their guts looked like.

You will literally find some of the worst lowest bidder soldering and hot snot work ever in those things.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Humphreys posted:

You will literally find some of the worst lowest bidder soldering and hot snot work ever in those things.

If it works, the only person who cares about soldermanship is that terrible whiny Australian on Youtube.

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Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Jerry Cotton posted:

If it works, the only person who cares about soldermanship is that terrible whiny Australian on Youtube.

Dave Jones is a terribly whiny Australian, but bad soldermanship deserves to be mocked.

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