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Tired Moritz posted:Saying the truth win games. "I am not playing the game" is what I read here
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Very rude... I will make one big post, bare with me. It's hard to do it on mobile.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:04
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Murmur Twin posted:Why'd you post this? Did you miss it the first time??
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Apr 25, 2017 02:14
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you all have large window tonight since this deadline is floating. I am on vacation you see and not sure when I'll be at my air bnb (or if it'll have okay internet). the real deadline will almost probably certainly not be three minutes after the scheduled deadline. maybe an hour, probably not much more. EccoRaven fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Apr 25, 2017 02:19
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Tired Moritz posted:Saying the truth win games. Which of these sounds more likely? (A) Moritz is a town doctor who, while not a vote leaders, decided to claim on D1 because "saying the truth wins games". He decided this outweighed the risk of the doctor getting NKed (or roleblocked or something) on N1. (B) Moritz is scum who realized the case on him has merit and he couldn't find an acceptable fake case so he claimed doctor to dissuade people from voting for him. I've scummed with TM before (Swan Song and in that game he tried for a fake claim to take the heat off of him. This seems very similar to that. Also in that game, he very clearly knew the value of doctors (when we discussed targets and stuff) which makes me feel reasonably sure he wouldn't have just shared that info, unprovoked on D1, if it were actually true.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:20
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Moatillata posted:Did you miss it the first time?? I actually did, but that doesn't change my opinion. Also I'm probably going to be asleep soon.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:21
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The Current Day 1 Votecount 
With 24 players alive, it takes 13 votes to be executed. 
The current deadline is April 24th, 2017 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 hour, 28 minutes from this post.
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I'm suspicious of the PMom push. It's dumb. Very dumb. 1) PM claimed VT, 100yrs ask if PM is rolefishing 2) PM votes 100yrs because everyone here is supposed to have an encyclopaedia on mafia goons posting habits and should always know PM always say they are VT 3)TMM backed PMom's claim, saying they remember PMom always say they are vt even after a month ago. 4)stickup, max, tpink vote 100yrs PMOM CLAIMED THAT ANYONE WHO QUESTIONED THEIR VT CLAIM IS SCUM Etc etc I find the bold statement to be very suspicious. If it's true, I expect that PMom would be a lot more pushy about it and show evidence. Considering that they are willing to show a game from a week ago showing 100yrs buying their VT claim, I find it suspicious that they haven't bought evidence for their grand statement. Either it's because they are exaggerating to strengthen the push on 100yrs. Which is an incredibly scummy thing to do. PMom is suspicious indeedo.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:34
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Also they're not even voting for 100yrs anymore!!!
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Apr 25, 2017 02:35
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Murmur Twin posted:Which of these sounds more likely? The problem with (B) is that Moritz has, like, one vote and only a few people who have passingly commented on liking him for scum. There's no heat to take off. They also don't need a fake case; they could just join the bandwagon and no one would give a poo poo. WIFOMing role possibilities and claims isn't useful at determining alignment at this point, nor a useful discussion to have overall.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:36
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Pinterest Mom posted:Every time
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Apr 25, 2017 02:38
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Tired Moritz posted:I'm suspicious of the PMom push. It's dumb. Very dumb. On the other hand, then you go and post poo poo like this. Are you reading the same game I am?
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Apr 25, 2017 02:38
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the minnesota safety council posted:The average freight train is about 1 to 1¼ miles in length (90 to 120 rail cars). When it's moving at 55 miles an hour, it can take a mile or more to stop after the locomotive engineer fully applies the emergency brake. An 8-car passenger train moving at 80 miles an hour needs about a mile to stop. ##vote lord of hats
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Apr 25, 2017 02:43
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is somberbrero defending hats because he is looking out for his own hatfolk kind?
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Apr 25, 2017 02:45
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its me glenda posted:is somberbrero defending hats because he is looking out for his own hatfolk kind? This is the kind of insight mafia sorely needs
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Apr 25, 2017 02:46
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Uranium Phoenix posted:The problem with (B) is that Moritz has, like, one vote and only a few people who have passingly commented on liking him for scum. There's no heat to take off. They also don't need a fake case; they could just join the bandwagon and no one would give a poo poo. I think it is, because you can look at a question like "what was Moritz's motivation for claiming doc there?". At the end of the day, the most beneficial reason for someone to claim to be a doctor (even moreso than actually being a doctor) would be so that people didn't vote for them. Pretend you're a town doc and talk me through the thought process that would end with you claiming.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:46
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its me glenda posted:is somberbrero defending hats because he is looking out for his own hatfolk kind? nah he's right, hats is very lurky in all games. hats might be scum, personally I have no feels either way, but lurking not indicative of his alignment.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:48
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I don't trust PMOM's wishy washyness. You can't just say "OH MAN I KNOW WHOEVER QUESTION MY VT CLAIM IS MAF, I GUARANTEE IT FROM MY PAST EXPERIENCE" and then just walk away because people aren't jumping onto the bandwagon. If Pmom genuinely think 100yrs is maf, I should expect them to be more pushy instead of jumping onto the hats bandwagon. Of course some people might go "pmom always play like that" but i hate meta defenses.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:48
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Tired Moritz posted:I don't trust PMOM's wishy washyness. What's your flavor?
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Apr 25, 2017 02:48
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Tired Moritz posted:I don't trust PMOM's wishy washyness.  pmom changed votes only when 100yrs had 3 votes to hats' 7 votes with multiple people not voting either saying no to 100yrs
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Apr 25, 2017 02:48
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Just wait him out at some point he will post his role pm if hes scum
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Apr 25, 2017 02:50
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this is a stickup posted:
And I'm saying that if PMom is so sure, they would had stuck with yrs and push for their lynch more.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:51
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I am wary about posting my flavor because I don't want to get smited.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:52
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Tired Moritz posted:And I'm saying that if PMom is so sure, they would had stuck with yrs and push for their lynch more. I really want to vote for you, because I don't want to vote for hats or feel strongly about his alignment either way, but I'm going to vote for hats instead of you. that doesn't mean I'm less sure about you or 100yrs than hats. hope this helps!
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Apr 25, 2017 02:53
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I mean cmon there is no way he can keep up a doc fake claim for more than two game days without spectacularly messing it up somehow OR He is actually our doc and the damage is p much done
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Apr 25, 2017 02:53
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Moatillata posted:Just wait him out at some point he will post his role pm if hes scum lmao 
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Apr 25, 2017 02:55
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Also i agree with the sentiment on hats wrt to lurking and alignment fwiw
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Apr 25, 2017 02:55
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this is a stickup posted:I really want to vote for you, because I don't want to vote for hats or feel strongly about his alignment either way, but I'm going to vote for hats instead of you. Unless you're gonna make a post claiming that everytime you're suspicious of me that Im scum, it's really not the same.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:58
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i still think this vote is dumb but 24 players so whatever also pmom is still mean. ##vote hats
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Apr 25, 2017 02:58
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Moat, why you hurt me so?  Also I don't buy the hats vote because they seem more dumb town than anything.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:59
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I prodded hats btw, if they're not executed today and don't respond before the game night ends I'll replace them, too.
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Apr 25, 2017 03:06
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EccoRaven posted:I prodded hats btw, if they're not executed today and don't respond before the game night ends I'll replace them, too. good but ultimately pointless as it is too late to swing 12 people to moritz or 100yrs
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Apr 25, 2017 03:08
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im here I can switch if you need
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Apr 25, 2017 03:09
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Stickup, why are you so defensive over pmom
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Apr 25, 2017 03:09
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moritz your pmom case has no basis in reality.
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Apr 25, 2017 03:09
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Tired Moritz posted:Stickup, why are you so defensive over pmom what
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Apr 25, 2017 03:11
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Tired Moritz posted:Stickup, why are you so defensive over pmom he's just pointing out what actually happened.
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Apr 25, 2017 03:10
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quick check in to see if we could swing a 100 vote?
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Apr 25, 2017 03:11
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Tired Moritz posted:Unless you're gonna make a post claiming that everytime you're suspicious of me that Im scum, it's really not the same. TM your posts are some of my favorites dont be sad They bring me much joy
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Apr 25, 2017 03:11
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Somberbrero posted:quick check in to see if we could swing a 100 vote? Im around and willing to switch
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